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Does HPV cause cancer?
Another thing I was arguing about my med. school buddy with was that the whole HPV causing Cervical Cancer thing was a sham to force vaccinations on little girls for the case of big money. He then stated that he could give me literally hundreds of studies and even introduce me to the researcher who made the HPV vaccine (University of Rochester I'm guessing). So, I'm at a standstill here. I was always under the impression that HPV was just a harmless STD that is sometimes contagious, sometimes not, but that has no reliable data to support that it causes cancer. I could be very wrong but if anyone can clear this one up, it's you IH! ![Smile](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_smile.gif)
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nidhogge- Posts : 2142
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HPV does not cause cancer. Your friend is correct that it is a sham.
There have been thousands complications with gardasil including 9 deaths. Some of the complications range from breathing issues to paralysis. So spinach kills a couple people and they pull it off the shelves for weeks yet they let these type of drugs proliferate the market. Sad.![Sad](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_sad.gif)
There have been thousands complications with gardasil including 9 deaths. Some of the complications range from breathing issues to paralysis. So spinach kills a couple people and they pull it off the shelves for weeks yet they let these type of drugs proliferate the market. Sad.
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sublime9- Posts : 336
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Speaking of cancer, i'm wondering if CS treat cancer patients with sups?
GoodThings- Posts : 235
Join date : 2008-08-20
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nidhogge - Dr. Mercola puts out some really terrific information in this regard. www.mercola.com and use the search function, you'll find tons of info on it.
Making a short story longer, human papillomavirus (HPV) scary is a joke. Although one that would seem highly profitable for the makers of the vaccine. To think that a governor wanted to make it mandatory for young girls is tantamount to some of our worst fears, ala like being on the "animal farm."
It has already caused deaths and very severe damage.
Let's get to the meat. This is totally reversible! I could cite a few studies, but basically you can reverse HPV totally by taking bio-DIM everyday for a month. It will be gone!
Another thing that works is BHT (butylhydroxytoluene), probably nothing works better unless you go through infusions of hyperbaric oxygen therapy and high dose vitamin C IV.
BHT will breakdown the fatty coating that hides the virus and the immune system will readily attack it.
Propaganda runs deep in the world of your run of the mill Ph.d (Piled high and deep is right!).
What about cancer? It's a fungus, called Candida that spreads once it converts to a more aggressive form and becomes systemic. It takes advantage of weakness of the body when it is overcome with all the things you've probably heard about--such as carcinogens. Certain hormones may encourage the "seeds" to grow. Antibiotic therapy is probably largely responsible for the rapid increase of cancers, since this allows the fungus to grow without control.
Lack of iodine (quite common today) allows estrogen to get out of control and proliferation cells. Cancer (fungus) feeds on sugar (glucose). It doesn't need oxygen to grow, it uses fermentation and alters the krebs cycle. You become slowly asphyxiated and your iron is hoarded to fortify rapid cellular replication.
Candida (fungus/cancer) acts like the glue that holds the cells together while disrupting normal cell suicide sequences. Therefore, the cells do not die, they multiply out of control until the body can not sustain itself. Cancer patients are always high acid and low oxygen. Death happens when oxygen is low and acidity is high.
Low stomach acid = more fermentation, which equals high acid, which equals ripe conditions for fungus/cancer. Low stomach acid does not allow proper assimilation of alkaline minerals that help supply oxygen to tissues. Pneumonia which is caused by a high acid state, is exacerbated by anti-acids, leaving little stomach acid to help alkalize the system.
I went on a tangent, but stomach acid allows an alkaline state, hopefully that clears up any potential confusion.
Only fermenting waste acids from a lack of stomach acid causes high acidity. Poor intestinal flora ratios (too much bad and not enough good) cause this condition as well.
Insulin and sugar fuel cancer. Before "civilized" foods, cancer was unheard of.
Cures? Intravenous pharmaceutical sodium bicarbonate. Type in baking soda and cancer, you'll get loads of info.
Other cures? Hemp oil cure (not the seed oil) for cancer appears real, worth checking out. www.phoenixtears.ca Watch the movie to get the full picture. Lots of studies to back this up.
There's lots of single supplements that help making a serious impact. As far as prevention goes, keep insulin low, glucose low, taking antioxidants, lots of omega-3, and take probiotics. Take minerals. Ignore the media and most doctors they will kill you--I wish I was exaggerating but there's a lot of truth to this statement.
Making a short story longer, human papillomavirus (HPV) scary is a joke. Although one that would seem highly profitable for the makers of the vaccine. To think that a governor wanted to make it mandatory for young girls is tantamount to some of our worst fears, ala like being on the "animal farm."
It has already caused deaths and very severe damage.
Let's get to the meat. This is totally reversible! I could cite a few studies, but basically you can reverse HPV totally by taking bio-DIM everyday for a month. It will be gone!
Another thing that works is BHT (butylhydroxytoluene), probably nothing works better unless you go through infusions of hyperbaric oxygen therapy and high dose vitamin C IV.
BHT will breakdown the fatty coating that hides the virus and the immune system will readily attack it.
Propaganda runs deep in the world of your run of the mill Ph.d (Piled high and deep is right!).
What about cancer? It's a fungus, called Candida that spreads once it converts to a more aggressive form and becomes systemic. It takes advantage of weakness of the body when it is overcome with all the things you've probably heard about--such as carcinogens. Certain hormones may encourage the "seeds" to grow. Antibiotic therapy is probably largely responsible for the rapid increase of cancers, since this allows the fungus to grow without control.
Lack of iodine (quite common today) allows estrogen to get out of control and proliferation cells. Cancer (fungus) feeds on sugar (glucose). It doesn't need oxygen to grow, it uses fermentation and alters the krebs cycle. You become slowly asphyxiated and your iron is hoarded to fortify rapid cellular replication.
Candida (fungus/cancer) acts like the glue that holds the cells together while disrupting normal cell suicide sequences. Therefore, the cells do not die, they multiply out of control until the body can not sustain itself. Cancer patients are always high acid and low oxygen. Death happens when oxygen is low and acidity is high.
Low stomach acid = more fermentation, which equals high acid, which equals ripe conditions for fungus/cancer. Low stomach acid does not allow proper assimilation of alkaline minerals that help supply oxygen to tissues. Pneumonia which is caused by a high acid state, is exacerbated by anti-acids, leaving little stomach acid to help alkalize the system.
I went on a tangent, but stomach acid allows an alkaline state, hopefully that clears up any potential confusion.
Only fermenting waste acids from a lack of stomach acid causes high acidity. Poor intestinal flora ratios (too much bad and not enough good) cause this condition as well.
Insulin and sugar fuel cancer. Before "civilized" foods, cancer was unheard of.
Cures? Intravenous pharmaceutical sodium bicarbonate. Type in baking soda and cancer, you'll get loads of info.
Other cures? Hemp oil cure (not the seed oil) for cancer appears real, worth checking out. www.phoenixtears.ca Watch the movie to get the full picture. Lots of studies to back this up.
There's lots of single supplements that help making a serious impact. As far as prevention goes, keep insulin low, glucose low, taking antioxidants, lots of omega-3, and take probiotics. Take minerals. Ignore the media and most doctors they will kill you--I wish I was exaggerating but there's a lot of truth to this statement.
Re: Does HPV cause cancer?
CS-Not sure if you're familiar with it but since you work with natural remedies, i'm pretty sure you have an idea about this. What's your take on vitamin B-17? The cancer cure? I'm actually reading it right now. Stumbled upon it while searching for vitamin pill organizer. It was a huge thing in the 70's but now? Never heard of B-17 or Laetrile.
GoodThings- Posts : 235
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Is it true what the book says about B-17 curing cancer?
GoodThings- Posts : 235
Join date : 2008-08-20
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CS - JUST AWSOME POST ON CANCER. I HAVE SEEN YOU POST SOME OF THIS CANDIDA - CANCER CONNECTION BEFORE BUT NOT IN ITS ENTIRTEY AS YOU HAVE JUST DONE ABOVE IN THIS THREAD. REALLY APPRECIATE IT. I NEVER NEW THIS STUFF BEFORE. IT IS ALMOST HARD TO BELIEVE. WHY ISNT THIS PUBLISHED PUBLICALLY ON A LARGE SCALE ? SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE AND/OR ARE DYING OF CANCER ! THANK YOU FOR YOUR POST ANYWAY.
2560- Posts : 46
Join date : 2008-07-09
Age : 73
Location : Deerfield, Illinois
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2560 - Thanks, no problem. I had an epiphany at some point after years of a similar question--why would simple methods on prevention, cures or treatment for cancer not be in all major newspapers, why wouldn't the scientific community embrace it and use it immediately?
It seems that throughout history as far back as any record goes, the public perception of what is correct takes many years into it is accepted as fact. Galileo was scorned out the whole earth revolving around the sun or the guy who was institutionalized after he tried to convince hospitals that the reason babies born suffered such a large mortality rate is because the physician needed to wash their hands. It took a long time for it to happen.
At risk over over stating a very notable quote: "All truth passes through three stages: First it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
The cancer industry is fueled by searches for drug treatments and methods of helping the sick get through trying and high toxic treatments. Radiation and chemo cause cancer for example. Mammograms do not save lives, they increase cancer. Thermography is a much better alternative.
If something as simple as IV sodium bicarbonate were suddenly used to treat cancer (side note: It's not really legal for a doctor to prescribe it as treatment for cancer--it's not within acceptable protocol) they would subject themselves to having their license suspended or revoked and stiffly fined.
The cancer industry isn't "evil" per se, they are only motivated by seeking drug routes or profitable methods to increase revenue. Hospitals need large diagnostic screening programs (I call it unnecessary testing or trying to satisfy insurance code) to fortify their need to stay solvent.
And since the FDA doesn't go with the constitution with respect to free speech, allowing providers of products to tell the truth of their potential benefits. People who rely soley on mainstream media will be at the complete mercy of the system, which is designed solely for profit, just like most other businesses.
What about B17? Most patients were using other methods along with it. I had never heard B17 being solely responsible for a recovery.
It seems that throughout history as far back as any record goes, the public perception of what is correct takes many years into it is accepted as fact. Galileo was scorned out the whole earth revolving around the sun or the guy who was institutionalized after he tried to convince hospitals that the reason babies born suffered such a large mortality rate is because the physician needed to wash their hands. It took a long time for it to happen.
At risk over over stating a very notable quote: "All truth passes through three stages: First it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
The cancer industry is fueled by searches for drug treatments and methods of helping the sick get through trying and high toxic treatments. Radiation and chemo cause cancer for example. Mammograms do not save lives, they increase cancer. Thermography is a much better alternative.
If something as simple as IV sodium bicarbonate were suddenly used to treat cancer (side note: It's not really legal for a doctor to prescribe it as treatment for cancer--it's not within acceptable protocol) they would subject themselves to having their license suspended or revoked and stiffly fined.
The cancer industry isn't "evil" per se, they are only motivated by seeking drug routes or profitable methods to increase revenue. Hospitals need large diagnostic screening programs (I call it unnecessary testing or trying to satisfy insurance code) to fortify their need to stay solvent.
And since the FDA doesn't go with the constitution with respect to free speech, allowing providers of products to tell the truth of their potential benefits. People who rely soley on mainstream media will be at the complete mercy of the system, which is designed solely for profit, just like most other businesses.
What about B17? Most patients were using other methods along with it. I had never heard B17 being solely responsible for a recovery.
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CS-Any other benefits of taking b17 besides the cancer curing aspect? i've not finish the book yet.
btw, i'm reading "World Without Cancer," by G. Edwards Griffin if anyone is interested.
btw, i'm reading "World Without Cancer," by G. Edwards Griffin if anyone is interested.
GoodThings- Posts : 235
Join date : 2008-08-20
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CS--
Man, you're on a roll today dude! Thanks again!
Goodthings--
G. Edwards Griffin also has another one to check out, "The Creature from Jekyll Island"--exposes the Federal Reserve and corruption that comes with central banking.
Man, you're on a roll today dude! Thanks again!
Goodthings--
G. Edwards Griffin also has another one to check out, "The Creature from Jekyll Island"--exposes the Federal Reserve and corruption that comes with central banking.
nidhogge- Posts : 2142
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Remarkable posts IH! You should put this up on your main site.
Ive been reading a lot about the candida-->cancer connection and I found http://www.curenaturalicancro.com - "cancer is a fungus" very compelling. But having you explain it here puts it all into focus. Thank you.
And yes the more I learn, the more I fear that youre absolutely right about the harm being done by the conventional medical establishment. Its an absolute travesty..pity on the poor souls who rely solely on doctors for their health information.
Ive been reading a lot about the candida-->cancer connection and I found http://www.curenaturalicancro.com - "cancer is a fungus" very compelling. But having you explain it here puts it all into focus. Thank you.
And yes the more I learn, the more I fear that youre absolutely right about the harm being done by the conventional medical establishment. Its an absolute travesty..pity on the poor souls who rely solely on doctors for their health information.
Project: JS- Posts : 250
Join date : 2008-07-19
Location : Maryland
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Project: JS - It really is astonishing. I think a lot of us have felt somewhat let down by conventional methods, but the absolute travesty as you put it (couldn't have said it any better) about our sick-care system becomes really apparent when you contrast the positive results from patients using natural methods verses conventional methods.
I have worked with several thousand diabetic, heart and cancer patients. Listening to the patient has enormous rewards, the information you learn from them is one tragic story after another.
I had thought on a few occasions I could write a book on the disasters of health care, but after checking sometime ago, this subject has already been extensively written. Check these out on Amazon.com
The truth about Drug Companies
How Medicine's Complicity with Big Business Can Endanger Your Health
Generation Rx: How Prescription Drugs Are Altering American Lives, Minds, and Bodies
Inside the FDA: The Business and Politics Behind the Drugs We Take and the Food We Eat
Big Pharma: Exposing the Global Health care Agenda
Overdosed America: The Broken Promise of American Medicine
Selling Sickness: How the World's Biggest Pharmaceutical Companies Are Turning Us All Into Patients
The Hundred-Year Lie: How Food and Medicine Are Destroying Your Health
What Your Doctor Hasn't Told You and the Health Store Clerk Doesn't Know: The Truth About Alternative Treatments and What Works
Death by Modern Medicine
The Rise and Fall of Modern Medicine
Modern Medicine: The New World Religion: How Beliefs Secretly Influence Medical Dogmas and Practices
I have worked with several thousand diabetic, heart and cancer patients. Listening to the patient has enormous rewards, the information you learn from them is one tragic story after another.
I had thought on a few occasions I could write a book on the disasters of health care, but after checking sometime ago, this subject has already been extensively written. Check these out on Amazon.com
The truth about Drug Companies
How Medicine's Complicity with Big Business Can Endanger Your Health
Generation Rx: How Prescription Drugs Are Altering American Lives, Minds, and Bodies
Inside the FDA: The Business and Politics Behind the Drugs We Take and the Food We Eat
Big Pharma: Exposing the Global Health care Agenda
Overdosed America: The Broken Promise of American Medicine
Selling Sickness: How the World's Biggest Pharmaceutical Companies Are Turning Us All Into Patients
The Hundred-Year Lie: How Food and Medicine Are Destroying Your Health
What Your Doctor Hasn't Told You and the Health Store Clerk Doesn't Know: The Truth About Alternative Treatments and What Works
Death by Modern Medicine
The Rise and Fall of Modern Medicine
Modern Medicine: The New World Religion: How Beliefs Secretly Influence Medical Dogmas and Practices
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Whoa..never realized there were that many books on the dangers of conventional medicine .. you would think with that many books on the topic that more people would be aware of it..
hmm why isnt one of the major newspapers or news organizations doing more to expose this?
haha or maybe if oprah were to run a little special on it
and even with all those other books IH, Id rather read yours!
hmm why isnt one of the major newspapers or news organizations doing more to expose this?
haha or maybe if oprah were to run a little special on it
and even with all those other books IH, Id rather read yours!
Project: JS- Posts : 250
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sorry for bumping an old thread.
CS or anyone else: Do you know if BHT is as effective as bio dim or vice versa? I may have issues with bio dim due to it's ability to lower DHT. maybe good for people who have hair loss here, but bad for someone like me who is suffering from propecia side effects.
Any other options besides these two and the oxygen/vitamin C iv treatment mentioned?
CS or anyone else: Do you know if BHT is as effective as bio dim or vice versa? I may have issues with bio dim due to it's ability to lower DHT. maybe good for people who have hair loss here, but bad for someone like me who is suffering from propecia side effects.
Any other options besides these two and the oxygen/vitamin C iv treatment mentioned?
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12665522?ordinalpos=4&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum3,3'-Diindolylmethane (DIM) is a major digestive product of indole-3-carbinol, a potential anticancer component of cruciferous vegetables. Our results indicate that DIM exhibits potent antiproliferative and antiandrogenic properties in androgen-dependent human prostate cancer cells. DIM suppresses cell proliferation of LNCaP cells and inhibits dihydrotestosterone (DHT) stimulation of DNA synthesis. These activities were not produced in androgen-independent PC-3 cells. Moreover, DIM inhibited endogenous PSA transcription and reduced intracellular and secreted PSA protein levels induced by DHT in LNCaP cells. Also, DIM inhibited, in a concentration-dependent manner, the DHT-induced expression of a prostate-specific antigen promoter-regulated reporter gene construct in transiently transfected LNCaP cells. Similar effects of DIM were observed in PC-3 cells only when these cells were co-transfected with a wild-type androgen receptor expression plasmid. Using fluorescence imaging with green fluorescent protein androgen receptor and Western blot analysis, we demonstrated that DIM inhibited androgen-induced androgen receptor (AR) translocation into the nucleus. Results of receptor binding assays indicated further that DIM is a strong competitive inhibitor of DHT binding to the AR. Results of structural modeling studies showed that DIM is remarkably similar in conformational geometry and surface charge distribution to an established synthetic AR antagonist, although the atomic compositions of the two substances are quite different. Taken together with our published reports of the estrogen agonist activities of DIM, the present results establish DIM as a unique bifunctional hormone disrupter. To our knowledge, DIM is the first example of a pure androgen receptor antagonist from plants.
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Sanderson - Oral BHT is quite useful, so it SSKI. The later (as does DIM) promote a positive ratio of "good" to "bad" estrogen metabolites.
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CausticSymmetry wrote:Sanderson - Oral BHT is quite useful, so it SSKI. The later (as does DIM) promote a positive ratio of "good" to "bad" estrogen metabolites.
thanks CS. very interesting so many answers are available in non threatening form straight from iherb..
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