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Post  Guest Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:22 pm

hey CS,

just letting you know that since starting taking probiotics, my hair and scalp have felt much better. i am also taking ec, curcumin, krill oil, mag, and a hair supplement. is it true that if one has candida that most hairloss treatments wont work? im thinking that it might be my case. is there a correlation with candida and appendicitis? there was an article on yahoo today that was kinda interesting about how the appendix is actually useful in fighting bacteria and disease.

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Post  LittleFighter Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:32 pm

1...,

CS's has commented on the importance of optimal microflora balance many times.

It seems that many people overlook this fact and this might be just as important as
insulin/glucose regulation, free radicals and hormone balance!

Dysbiosis has huge negative implications possibly in all system in the body.

Right now I'm trying to regain resistance to probiotics and fix my leaky gut, because this is essential to achieve major progress in your hair and your health.

Did you have any detox/die-off reaction with you recent experience with probiotics?
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Post  CausticSymmetry Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:52 pm

1..... - On the old forum, which unfortunately doesn't have a search function the issue of appendix function was brought up a few times. I was pretty surprised to see a mainstream article on the subject because among natural physicians it's been known for some time that this "vestigial organ" is quite important.

http://www.freewebs.com/immortalhair/oldforum.htm

The answer to your first question is yes, Candida overgrowth does have an impact hair. If you scroll down on this page and look for the Candida section the reasons are explained:

http://www.immortalhair.org/physiology.htm

In short, yeast overgrowth impacts the skins bacteria balance and steroid expression.

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Post  Guest Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:24 pm

thanks guys,

I already had appendicitis. does this put me at a higher risk for candida?

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Post  jksl Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:29 pm

From what i've read, high dose biotin helps with candida issues.
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Post  CausticSymmetry Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:02 pm

1..... - If you ever have to take antibiotics for any reason, this is where you're recovery would be compromised, so taking a probiotic will protect you.

I haven't looked at any studies, but would imagine that having no appendix would raise the risk of Candida overgrowth.

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Post  Warren Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:32 pm

Okay I've had antibiotics at least 6 times during my entire life so far. I will try the candida test tomorrow morning.

CS, if you had to pick one, should I take Jarro-Dophilus or Dr Ohhira's or something else?

While I'm here, I couldn't find anything good for adrenals. Everything I read seems to point to lowering stress. Is there something you can take to balance adrenals?

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Post  jksl Thu Aug 27, 2009 2:46 pm

I researched a ton on adrenal fatigue since i'm dealing with it. Lots of vitamin C seems to be the cure as vitamin C is pretty much mostly concentrated in your adrenal gland in your body. Stress and high sugar diets use up the vit C pretty quickly. Ever since i began the Pauling protocol, i can tell you that i don't feel as fatigued as before. Last year, i couldn't get out of bed for days. These days, my fatigue mostly comes from 24/7 thinking and dreaming about my hair loss.

You could try adrenal glandulars, but it's kinda risky to do that IMO. Dosing too much would be bad news.

Maca was helping me as well, but i don't think that's a solution for the long-term. The only thing i know that "rebuilds" the adrenals is vitamin C. Magnesium and Vitamin E is supposed to help as well.

Also, good sleeping habits/patterns, stress management (obviously), and good eating habits (no skipping meals) is a must.

I pretty much tend to agree with Dr. Lam's views on adrenal fatigue.

http://www.drlam.com/adrenalfatiguecenter/7mistakesofadrenalfatigue.asp
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Post  zerx Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:15 pm

Are probiotics the best treatment for MRSA? It seems like alopathic medicine hasn't got an answer for this. All they do is cut out infected tissue to the point of amputating limbs. I'm seriously doubting the qualifications of some of these doctors who can't see what's wrong with their approach.

For instance I saw this lady on Oprah a few days ago. She cut her finger and got infected with MRSA. The docs didn't listen to what she was telling them and sent her home with some antibiotics. They sent her back home twice before her situation worsened and they had to amputate her arm and give her a mastectomy.

The same episode mentioned how MRSA works by attacking the good bacteria. That made me wonder if probiotics could do a better job than atibiotics by increasing the good bacteria instead of killing all bacteria.
Also IH how worried are you about MRSA?

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Post  CausticSymmetry Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:55 pm

zerx - Manuka honey effectively kills and heals MRSA infections.

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Post  jksl Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:56 pm

Oh, one more thing on adrenal fatigue, it appears a tin deficiency will contribute to low adrenal function (just like how lack of iodine can contribute to low thyroid function). Tin deficiency is also linked to hairloss as well, so i'm guessing those who lost hair during extreme adrenal fatigue may be tin deficient (just like those who lost hair during sluggishness of the thyroid may be iodine deficient). Seaweed is a source of both iodine and tin.
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Post  Silverlin Thu Aug 27, 2009 5:01 pm

jksl - Yet more incentive to choose whole food's like kelp/seaweed brewers yeast over synthetic stuff.

CS - Speaking of manuka honey...about 4 months ago I grazed my knee 'moderately bad' and put a bit of manuka honey on it nearly everyday and after 3 months the wound is 100% completely healed with not even so much as a scar or any indication I had a nasty graze there before.

Makes me wonder what manuka honey would do for hairloss topically. Anyone game to try? Coz I'm not LOL
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Post  kijumn Thu Aug 27, 2009 5:35 pm

Grapefruit seed extract and clay, such as French Green Clay is very effective on MRSA as well. There are others but these two and Manuaka Honey is what I'd rely on.

On a side note, I remember reading an article many months ago how in some parts of the world people would dig a hole in the dirt and the person would just lie down covered head to toe in dirt. Supposedly this healed many chronic skin infections and was theorized that it was the beneficial bacteria responsible for the healing.

Also, what's interesting is in the US, more people are now dying from MRSA than AIDS.


As for manuaka honey in the hair to treat MPB, I tried this many months ago and I'd rate it as effective as any other average topical treatment that fights bacteria, etc. such as clay or coconut oil, etc..
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Post  CausticSymmetry Thu Aug 27, 2009 5:35 pm

Warren wrote:Okay I've had antibiotics at least 6 times during my entire life so far. I will try the candida test tomorrow morning.

CS, if you had to pick one, should I take Jarro-Dophilus or Dr Ohhira's or something else?

While I'm here, I couldn't find anything good for adrenals. Everything I read seems to point to lowering stress. Is there something you can take to balance adrenals?

Probiotics work differently for each individual, but personally I much prefer Jarrow EPS over Dr. Ohhira's.

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Post  jksl Thu Aug 27, 2009 5:46 pm

Silverlin wrote:jksl - Yet more incentive to choose whole food's like kelp/seaweed brewers yeast over synthetic stuff.

CS - Speaking of manuka honey...about 4 months ago I grazed my knee 'moderately bad' and put a bit of manuka honey on it nearly everyday and after 3 months the wound is 100% completely healed with not even so much as a scar or any indication I had a nasty graze there before.

Makes me wonder what manuka honey would do for hairloss topically. Anyone game to try? Coz I'm not LOL

I'm not sure about the honey, but manuka is used in DS Labs' Dandrene shampoo.

"Modern clinical research into manuka and willow complex has volunteers use it in a shampoo for one month. At the end of treatment, researchers observe that manuka and willow extracts reduce seborrhea and its associated dandruff, itching, and redness. The extracts also minimize wounds from scratching, improving overall scalp health."
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Post  LittleFighter Thu Aug 27, 2009 5:47 pm

Silverlin wrote:jksl - Yet more incentive to choose whole food's like kelp/seaweed
Makes me wonder what manuka honey would do for hairloss topically. Anyone game to try? Coz I'm not LOL

Yeah. Don't forget that very healthy people from various cultures like the Georgians (not USA) never use lugol's or iodoral or anything close. The difference of course is that they only consume food from healthy animals. The japanese consume a lot of marine products, this is all they need to obtain all the benefits from iodine, includiding thyroid function and iodine sufficiency.

Honey? Mmmm... at least flies would cover any balding spot making it an excellent alternative to TOPPIK Razz
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Post  Warren Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:49 pm

I've read about tin deficiency on hair loss, but I haven't seen any proof other than that one doctor saying so. Never heard of adrenals and tin before. I know my tin levels are low from tests though, but I'm not sure how to get it up or if it's even necessary.

CS, do you know anything about this?

jksl wrote:Oh, one more thing on adrenal fatigue, it appears a tin deficiency will contribute to low adrenal function (just like how lack of iodine can contribute to low thyroid function). Tin deficiency is also linked to hairloss as well, so i'm guessing those who lost hair during extreme adrenal fatigue may be tin deficient (just like those who lost hair during sluggishness of the thyroid may be iodine deficient). Seaweed is a source of both iodine and tin.

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Post  CausticSymmetry Fri Aug 28, 2009 3:17 am

Warren - I've never heard about it before. And only recently, heard some mention about tin and hair loss. There's just one animal study, and two anecdotal mentions. All I know is that tin can be toxic when found in sources in industry, but if it is a natural component of food it is probably beneficial but if it is good for us, there's nothing that I can find that proves it has any real benefit in humans. But just in case, there is some tin in brewer's yeast. I take this as a natural form of b-vitamins, and if tin is ever found to be good, it's nice insurance.

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Post  jksl Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:53 am

[quote="Warren"]Never heard of adrenals and tin before. I know my tin levels are low from tests though, but I'm not sure how to get it up or if it's even necessary.
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I don't think you'd be asking this question if it was some other 'well-known' essential mineral like magnesium or iodine. If they were low, wouldn't you think that it'd be necessary to raise them? If your tin levels are low, of course it's necessary to raise them up to normal levels. You only need trace amounts though. Supplementation would probably be a bad idea. Getting them from food sources should be more than adequate.

http://www.acu-cell.com/sni.html

http://www.phpure.com/nutrition_products/tin.htm
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Post  CausticSymmetry Fri Aug 28, 2009 7:19 am

jksl - Thanks for those links. David Wolfe mentioned in an audio interview that schizandra, which is great for the adrenal glands contains tin. Earlier this year, there was a study mentioning a certain type of schizandra (nigra) helping with hair growth.

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Post  Warren Fri Aug 28, 2009 12:07 pm

This is unbelievable but I did that Candida Test this morning and apparently I have a candida problem! How could this be? Why is it that every test I take learned from this forum (hypothyroid, candida) I am positive for the problem? Has anyone else done this test and NOT be positive?

At this rate, I can't figure out how I am still walking! Razz

My friend who has been battling candida for a long time told me today that a white tongue is a sign of candida as well. My tongue has a white coating instead of being pink through and through. Looks like I need to take some probiotics.


Warren wrote:Okay I've had antibiotics at least 6 times during my entire life so far. I will try the candida test tomorrow morning.

CS, if you had to pick one, should I take Jarro-Dophilus or Dr Ohhira's or something else?

While I'm here, I couldn't find anything good for adrenals. Everything I read seems to point to lowering stress. Is there something you can take to balance adrenals?
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Post  Grateful Fri Aug 28, 2009 12:24 pm

IH - I'm going to change from DR O'Hira's probiotic to the one suggested by you from Jarrows. However, I recently found out about two other ones - Nutricology, Russian Choice Immune, and Del-Immune. Both are considered to be quite superior in probiotic action. Any comments?

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Post  CausticSymmetry Fri Aug 28, 2009 12:41 pm

Warren - It's quite common for Candida, Adrenal and hypothyroid to be in unison.

Grateful - Russian immune & Del-Immune only have a single strain of lactic acid bacteria. At least for me, I quite prefer Jarrow EPS over Dr. Ohhira's. The enteric coating is nice, it's room temperature stable and it really works well.
It's especially effective at cutting out my desire for sweets.

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Post  Grateful Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:19 pm

IH - you definitely have a point about them only containing one strain. Yep, I'll certainly move over to Jarrows EP. Thanks IH.

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