Been a while

Hey guys, just wanted to stop by and say hi. And maybe spark up a convo about what the most effective current treatments are.


Oh yeah, some of you might remember that I got a hair transplant. Here are some before and after pics. HT was performed April 2015. An important note- the hairs that were transplanted are miniaturizing. Not horribly bad, but in 10 yrs I bet it will be time for another.


Before






After

thanks for checking in SlowMoe and yes, it has been a while since your brushing days.

Nice to see hair on your head and the hair transplant looks good.

Are you doing anything to maintain (IH6 etc.)?

Thanks.

No man, not really doing anything to maintain. I probably should be but I try to save my extra money so when it's time I will just get another HT I suppose lol.

I also want to re-iterate, The follicles from the sides of your head are NOT resistant to miniaturization. This is fact. The environment in the galea area is the culprit. Lack of bloodflow/ nutrition/ buildup of 5AR. IMO all caused by lack of blodflow to the follicles AKA hypoxia.

Some better before pics

More before pics

A smidge over 4,000 grafts, many with 2 or 3 follicles each

Wow, that looks really scary, did it hurt at all?

How much did you pay ?

johndoe1225 wrote:Wow, that looks really scary, did it hurt at all?

The numbing injections stung a little, about a couple minutes worth of mild pain. Then nothing,

Directo wrote:How much did you pay ?

$5500

Is no one surprised to hear that the hairs from the sides of your head are not genetically immune to miniaturization?

5500 sounds dirt cheap where did you have it done?
Pretty good results it seems

Hey SlowMoe-nice to see you back on the forum. It's been tumbleweeds around here lately.

I think it's very interesting that you're finding donor hairs miniaturizing over time. It's always been a suspicion of mine & is a nice bit of evidence supporting the manuals/bloodflow/wounding etc. theories. I've been meaning to ask OMG his opinion on the subject as he's always seemed like a straight shooter. Learned from years of Finasteride that you can't count on the company selling the product to necessarily share the unvarnished truth with you.

Congrats on your transplant-looks great.

bocor wrote:5500 sounds dirt cheap where did you have it done?
Pretty good results it seems

Istanbul- Dr Erkan Demirsoy. Very reputable in that part of the world. 1/4 the price of a comparable U.S. surgeon

RPM wrote:Hey SlowMoe-nice to see you back on the forum.  It's been tumbleweeds around here lately.

I think it's very interesting that you're finding donor hairs miniaturizing over time.  It's always been a suspicion of mine & is a nice bit of evidence supporting the manuals/bloodflow/wounding etc. theories.  I've been meaning to ask OMG his opinion on the subject as he's always seemed like a straight shooter.  Learned from years of Finasteride that you can't count on the company selling the product to necessarily share the unvarnished truth with you.

Congrats on your transplant-looks great.

Yeah, things have slowed a bit lol. Thanks for the compliment.

Its the damn environment of the galea portion of the head, I'm certain of it. Things that I PERSONALLY think contribute to hair loss in order of importance:

1. Circulatory system- genetics- how much bloodfow and nutrients/ antioxidants our galea hair gets.... which is largely regulated by #2:
2. Stress levels/ tension of scalp muscles
3. How efficient the body is at making 5AR/ DHT
4. Your sensitivity to androgen induced inflammation, which apparently increases in a low bloodflow (hypoxic) environment

I notice I have chronically tight scalp muscles. Always pulling on my galea and choking off the blood. Remember the botox procedure where they injected it into the scalp muscles and it reversed balding. Bingo.

One thing is for certain, the BS about donor hairs being resistant to miniaturization is fabricated nonsense. I have watched the hairs at my hairline get noticeably thinner. No doubt about it. Over the course of 4 years.


Keeping fresh blood and nutrin=ents coming to the scalp is key IMO. Maybe your circulatory system won't allow that. Then lower the amount of androgens that reach your follicles. Preferably a topical like azelaic acid. Or RU 58841 with a carrier thats doesnt go too systemic, if that doesn't work. Then, if yout hair is more important than your manhood, mental health, consider finasteride or dutasteride (disclaimer- not everyone gets bad sided from these drugs, but be prepared for the possibility)

This is all..... in my opinion....

Topicals. I recommend the azelaic acid one...

http://www.advinfoprod.com/hair_loss_treatment_mixing_in_vodka.htm

SlowMoe - Congrats, nice work. I learned from OMG that HT "resistant" hairs does play out. I agree.

What was your experience with the head strap you made?

I saw that in Europe there's a strap like device that sells for over 250 Euro's. It appears like two blood pressure measuring devices combined that wrap around the head and increase blood flow to the scalp.

CausticSymmetry wrote:SlowMoe - Congrats, nice work. I learned from OMG that HT "resistant" hairs does play out. I agree.

Can you elaborate? Not sure I understand what you are saying.

CausticSymmetry wrote:
What was your experience with the head strap you made?

I saw that in Europe there's a strap like device that sells for over 250 Euro's. It appears like two blood pressure measuring devices combined that wrap around the head and increase blood flow to the scalp.

Well, it definitely trained my scalp muscles to stay more relaxed. Which I think is a very good thing. Problem is I started using it when I lost 75% of my hair up top and nothing was really gonna bring that back.

But I do think there is merit to that type of device. For sure.
Oh, and thank you. Best thing I ever spent money on I tell you.

Here it is:

https://www.hairlossrevolution.com/grogenix/growband/

CausticSymmetry wrote:Here it is:

https://www.hairlossrevolution.com/grogenix/growband/

Nice, that company has a lot of good products IMO. I think that band is definitely helpful. You need to catch hair loss as early as possible because once its bald its bald IMO.

Must say you have attained very good natural look after the hair transplant. If you are facing hair loss again then when are planning to get another HT?

Cs I ran across that site a couple weeks ago. Always been interested in a band like device so ordered one. Will let yall know how it goes. Still love the tesla brush for massaging and circulation

sachink2633 wrote:Must say you have attained very good natural look after the hair transplant. If you are facing hair loss again then when are planning to get another HT?

When? I guess when I feel that it gets too thin again lol. I use concelears because I am still thin on top but when that is not an option anymore I will get another. Hoping to go 10yrs between transplants. That's considerably less than $5 a day, so if I can save an extra $30 a week I should be set. Not a problem currently so that Is the plan,'.

bh1546 wrote:Cs I ran across that site a couple weeks ago. Always been interested in a band like device so ordered one. Will let yall know how it goes. Still love the tesla brush for massaging and circulation

Have you been at least maintaining with the tesla brush?

SlowMoe wrote:

sachink2633 wrote:Must say you have attained very good natural look after the hair transplant. If you are facing hair loss again then when are planning to get another HT?

When? I guess when I feel that it gets too thin again lol. I use concelears because I am still thin on top but when that is not an option anymore I will get another. Hoping to go 10yrs between transplants. That's considerably less than $5 a day, so if I can save an extra $30 a week I should be set. Not a problem currently so that Is the plan,'.

Good luck with your surgery in advance. Whenever you get your second hair transplant, I hope you will get satisfactory results.