Heavy Metal Cleanse + Candida cleanse – OK to do together??

Is it OK to do the Heavy Metal Cleanse (Humifulvate + Iodine) at the same time as a Candida Cleanse (using a natural antifungal product with an anti-candida diet)? Or is it too much cleansing at once? If it’s better to do them separately, which one would be better to do first?

I know that I have a candida problem (from medical testing + spit test). I also did a hair metals test and it actually said I was extremely low in all of the toxic heavy metals, however the testing lab’s chemist/nutritionist suspected a heavy metal problem because I had such low metal levels (almost unreasonably low) along with very low glutathione, antioxidants, vit C. I'm not sure if its related but the test showed I also had very little to no lithium. This nutritionist thought my body could be holding on to the metals and not excreting them in my hair. Any thoughts or advice is appreciated. Thanks.

I think this is debatable. It probably all depends on how ready your body is for that kind of detox. On the one hand, a candida problem is probably going to promote a metal toxicity problem, so destroying candida will release metals into the bowels. So logically, you could look at it as practical to try and achieve both and choose your weapons for mopping up the metals in the gut (MCP, alginates, chlorella, bla bla bla). On the other hand, there are some cons. Namely, you will be increasing your toxic load in the short term by trying to achieve both and it will be burden, do doubt. If you are prepared to deal with the detox symptoms and you are keeping your liver and kidneys in good health, then this is your judgment call. After all, humifulvate tends to be a gentler cleanse based on what I've heard on the forum.

In my mind, having good gut health is crucial for a metal cleanse to begin with, so if I were you I'd be trying to combat the candida overgrowth prior to any prolonged metal cleanse. I think the problem with candida is less about eliminating it altogether and more about controlling it through diet and perhaps short term antimicrobials. Consider that most enterologists are going to put you on a liquid anti-fungal for a few weeks for a yeast problem. During this phase try to heal the gut with glutamine, NAG, zinc, and sulfur-containing aminos. At the same time, begin bolstering your glutathione in prep for a metal cleanse, with undenatured whey protein and also sulfur-containing aminos like NAC, polyphenolics like green tea, and lipoic acid. Clean the liver (choline, methionine, psilymarin, bitters). After this do the metal cleanse. This is just my opinion though, others may disagree.

Anthony, Thanks for the feedback. You brought up many of the points and concerns I had and wanted to get feedback from others. I have been doing a liver support/nourishment program with many of the supplements and protein you mentioned. I also got the same impression that the metal cleanse with Humifulvate was more gentle and wouldn’t overload the liver and kidneys. So I was considering giving the Heavy Metal and the Candida cleanse both a shot a the same time, but I’m still undecided. Any other opinions on this?


Also would EFAs / Omega 3s or 6s be beneficial during this cleanse? I was thinking of adding UDOS Choice 369 and possibly some extra sunflower oil/safflower oil to increase the Omegas 6s to a higher ratio. I can’t take Krill oil due to an allergy.

Klinghardt puts his patients on EFAs during his protocol, probably for membrane integrity reasons.

joetr wrote:Is it OK to do the Heavy Metal Cleanse (Humifulvate + Iodine) at the same time as a Candida Cleanse (using a natural antifungal product with an anti-candida diet)? Or is it too much cleansing at once? If it’s better to do them separately, which one would be better to do first?

I know that I have a candida problem (from medical testing + spit test). I also did a hair metals test and it actually said I was extremely low in all of the toxic heavy metals, however the testing lab’s chemist/nutritionist suspected a heavy metal problem because I had such low metal levels (almost unreasonably low) along with very low glutathione, antioxidants, vit C. I'm not sure if its related but the test showed I also had very little to no lithium. This nutritionist thought my body could be holding on to the metals and not excreting them in my hair. Any thoughts or advice is appreciated. Thanks.

What type of test did they use to assess the heavy metals?

Also, if the heavy metals are a factor, Candida is best reduced post heavy metal cleanse.

CS,

Curious as to why you'd address it after the metal cleanse. Thanks.

anthonyspencer54 wrote:CS,

Curious as to why you'd address it after the metal cleanse. Thanks.

If someone has mercury fillings, there will be a of Candida present to protect the body. Normalizing Candida levels occurs following a reduction of mercury burden.

I had a hair metals test done from Great Plains Lab where they had me clip off a packet full of hair close to the scalp. http://www.greatplainslaboratory.com/home/eng/metals_hair.asp

The chemist/nutritionist said my results were almost unreasonably low compared to their healthy baseline numbers. Mercury was 0.07 ug/g. Lead was .02 ug/g.
The ones that were somewhat higher but still under the 50 percentile mark were:
Aluminum: 1.8 ug/g, Arsenic .044 ug/g, Barium .61ug/g, Titanium: 0.37 ug/g.

Any thoughts on what this could mean? Because I had very low Glutathione, Vit C, and antioxidants, the nutritionist suspected my body was possibly holding on to the metals. Other tests by Great Plains confirmed I have Candida (organic acid + stool test).

Do you think I should proceed with the Heavy Metal/Humifulvate Cleanse first, or can I combine it or overlap it with the Candida Cleanse? I have an anti-yeast product I was planning to use that contains Olive leaf, Pau D’Arco, Goldenseal, Caprylic Acid, Organo. By the way, I’m 35 and have no metal fillings or cavities. Besides hairloss and some eczema on my hands I can’t get rid of, I have no other known health issues.

joetr - Unfortunately, the only reliable test for heavy metals is urinary heavy metals with a provoking chelating agent. However, subjectively speaking, you are probably holding on to metals. I have seen many people with high mercury without a single amalgam filling.