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Post  imprisoned-radical Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:39 pm

I would be especially interested in answers from those forum participants who have stopped their hair loss. Especially CS. This would show that even the "genetic" component of MPB can be counteracted.

My dad, his dad, and his paternal grandfather are bald. My dad started balding in his mid-20s, whereas his two brothers only have moderate (frontal) hair loss and it didn't start until much later in life. Notably, my dad also developed type 2 diabetes in his 30s and hypertension during his 40s - he's generally a stressed out person and I imagine that this was a major causative factor in his generally poor health. All of the men on my mom's side of the family seem to have good hair.


The suspect gene variation sits on the X chromosome, which is handed down to men by their mother. So a man may get an idea of his scalp's future from men on his mother's side of the family.
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Genetic screening showed that the "cardinal prerequisite" for premature male pattern baldness was a variation in the androgen receptor gene. The gene variant was found "very much more often" among prematurely bald men than among men who still had a full head of hair after age 60, says Nöthen in a news release.

The theory that MPB is entirely inherited from the mother's side has been debunked, but the information above shows that the maternal line of inheritance is relatively more important.

As such I'd hoped that I'd dodge MPB, but unfortunately it didn't turn out that way.

Hopefully someone who knows more about the genetic component of MPB (or a better understanding of genetics in general) can weigh in.

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Post  rofl Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:52 pm

i wouldnt worry about this question personally. it doesnt matter.

if theres mpb in the family, u may or may not get it, and if theres not mpb in ur family u may or may not get it. Im sure theres a link somewhere, but after so many generations it becomes just too complicated to track.

Its simply a combinatino of genetics and epigenetics, as well as chemical, biological, hormonal dietry factors. the simple truth is no-one knows who will go bald.

But i guess if u father and brothers all gobald early, its a fair bet u will too.

dont htink anyone will really be able to help u on this one.
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Post  niff1250 Sun Sep 18, 2011 7:13 pm

There's no MPB in my family (both sides) over the last three generations. But my hairloss looks like MPB : no recedding but thinning in the crown (more visible in the vertex area but thinning all over my crown).

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Post  Hoppipolla Sun Sep 18, 2011 9:14 pm

My dad's side is fairly bad. He has lost a fair bit, my uncle is nearly bald, my NAN was bald O.O

On the other hand, my grandad had more hair than my dad and uncle even in his 70s. I would probably be more inclined to believe mine was simply genetic had it not occurred at the same time as digestive issues (and other linked problems), and at 18 not 24.

My mum's side... mostly good hair, sometimes hair loss (or full baldness) in old age.
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Post  youngbalder Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:19 pm

My Grandfather, Father and two uncles on my father side. It was inevitable for me.

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Post  abc123 Thu Sep 22, 2011 4:34 pm

yes 100% of males on both sides have hair loss, knew it was coming lol...

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Post  tonyj Fri Sep 23, 2011 4:22 am

Same here, 100% on both sides of the family.
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Post  elan164 Fri Sep 23, 2011 5:06 am

Both grandparents were basically bald, but my dad has more hair than me, just temple recession, nw2 id guess, im nw3 i would say.

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Post  CausticSymmetry Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:50 am

All men on my mothers side are bald and became this way at an early age. My father's side is mixed, but all of the ones I have met began to bald at different rates.


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Post  bh2o Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:27 pm

The men on my mothers side have maintained fairly well. My mothers father had a very good head of hair into his 70's.

My fathers side, most of them have lost most of their hair including my dad who is in his 60's and is high on the nw scale, not sure what number. His youngest brother has a decent amount of hair with some thinning, he is in his 60's as well.
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Post  TexasMedicine Sun Oct 02, 2011 5:07 pm

My dad wears a piece of some kind so not sure how bald he really is, lol. But both grandparents were totally bald, as well as both uncles from different sides of the family - so I didn't stand much of a chance paired with epigenetics and stress.

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Post  crincrin Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:18 am

Paternal GF was slick bald. My father is quite bald. One of his brothers has great hair at almost age 70, the other is in between.

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Post  TheDivineMarquis Sat May 23, 2015 9:58 am

Father´s side: my father is bald and so is his brother; my grandfather was nw3 at 45 (died at that age); only one of my great-uncles is bald, all the others are nw2´s.

Mother´s side: my grandfather is bald; my uncle is bald but my cousins (his sons) only have receded temples and thick hair; besides them there aren´t many bald men in this side of the family

Me, I seem to be a nw 2,5 with thick hair - although, I´m only 23.

Is it possible for me not to go bald, or to stay a 2,5 the rest of my life?
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Post  4039 Sat May 23, 2015 10:14 am

Both my grandfathers had thick heads of hair past sixty. Both uncles on my mom's side were bald, one started in his late twenties, the other in his late forties.

My balding started exactly at 27 years-old. Otherwise my two sisters and I were both known for having thicker than average hair.

In fact, my teenage and early twenties hair was so thick, I actually broke my hair stylists trimmer twice, forcing her to upgrade to a more powerful model. Laughing

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Post  SonofOdin Sat May 23, 2015 6:48 pm

Father was fine till he reached ages 19-23, then he was NW5 in a little over a year. He grew up on a farm and was pretty healthy. At age 22 I went from NW1.5 to a NW4 in about 8 months. I only escaped my dads fate by using fin once I realized time was not on my side on experimenting with naturals to get at the root... We both pretty much mirrored each other when it came to hair loss even though I grew up in the city, had a different lifestyle etc.

Uncle on moms side has perfect hair in his forties, and grandpa has great hair for an 80 yr old.
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Post  Columbo Sat May 23, 2015 8:51 pm

every single close relative (dad, brother, uncles, grand parents, great uncles, blood cousings) about the age of 30 in my family has severe balding. talk about a shit hair gene pool.

I'm 37 and have a bit of thinning which I've stabilised and may even be reversing. i'm pretty much the first man in my family in the last 3 generations to keep this much hair, this long.

that said, none of them lead particularly healthy lifestyles, I'm very pro-active with health
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Post  TheDivineMarquis Sun May 24, 2015 12:23 am

Btw, how relevant is the genetic contribution of our paternal grandfather in MPB genetics? Is it necessairly less influential than our maternal grandfather´s?
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Post  CausticSymmetry Sun May 24, 2015 2:00 am

My father, grand father on mother's side, all of my uncles of mother's side - all went bald early.

I've studied the genetic part for years and there's much more to it. Influences during gestation also can play a role. Also environmental toxins affect genetic expressions.

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Post  Growdamnit Sun May 24, 2015 7:36 am

CausticSymmetry wrote:My father, grand father on mother's side, all of my uncles of mother's side - all went bald early.

I've studied the genetic part for years and there's much more to it. Influences during gestation also can play a role. Also environmental toxins affect genetic expressions.
I know I'm being an absolute pain in the ass when I ask, but I have to out of sheer curiosity. What are the influences during gestation and the environmental toxins? Please elaborate. Thanks, CS.

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Post  Organism Sun May 24, 2015 10:00 am

Today my hairdresser who is in late 40's has a full head of hair and said his dad is bald so he has his mothers hair.

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Post  Sage 1 Sun May 24, 2015 4:51 pm

Growdamnit wrote:
CausticSymmetry wrote:My father, grand father on mother's side, all of my uncles of mother's side - all went bald early.

I've studied the genetic part for years and there's much more to it. Influences during gestation also can play a role. Also environmental toxins affect genetic expressions.
I know I'm being an absolute pain in the ass when I ask, but I have to out of sheer curiosity. What are the influences during gestation and the environmental toxins? Please elaborate. Thanks, CS.

Probably there are no studies if hair loss for example has increased by generations, and at earlier stages.
The increase of drugs, supplements and processed food however has increased, and there can definitely be a connection.

Even our grains, greens and veggies are chemically harvested, to speed up the process and for a bigger yield.
My mother worked for a big company, and she did daily testings of genetically modified grains to make it more efficient, and insect repellent.
I think all these factors has effected our health more than we think, and therefore our daily intake is ecological.

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