vertex balding but no MPB family history

Hi,

I'm new to this forum. I did notice hairloss about 1,5 years ago, I'm 27 now. The problem is that my hairloss looks like MPB (vertex) but there isn't one cas of MPB in my family for at least (maybe more I don't know) the last three generations (dad, both grand parents, uncles etc...all are NW1 even grand parents). I must confess my hygiene is reaaly bad :
- very litlle physical activies
- eating junk food
- lot of cannabis

I'm wondering if there's a link between this bad hygiene and my hairloss despite my hairloss looks like MPB.
Here's a pic (just add http before) :
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niff1250 - Vertex balding is generally associated with a cardiovascular component. Frontal/temporal appear to be driven by stress (prolactin and cortisol imbalances).

The following study shows that one of the most ubiquitous items in junk foods (partially hydrogenated vegetable oil and/or trans-fatty acids) have on the elevation of Lp(a) or Lipoprotein(a), which is associated with balding. When I first learned about hydrogenated oils in the early 90's, I stopped the consumption cold. This is the one thing I will almost completely avoid in my diet.

When I eat any kind of junk, I will refuse it if it contains these types of oils. The reason is that once consumed it takes approximately 55 to 65 days (give or take) for the body to eliminate them. Also, it impairs oxygen transfer via the cell membranes.

http://atvb.ahajournals.org/content/16/3/375.full


Arteriosclerosis, Thrombosis, and Vascular Biology. 1996;16:375-380

Effects of Partially Hydrogenated Fish Oil, Partially Hydrogenated Soybean Oil, and Butter on Hemostatic Variables in Men
Kari Almendingen; Ingebjørg Seljeflot; Berit Sandstad; Jan I. Pedersen
From the Institute for Nutrition Research (K.A., J.I.P.) and the Section for Dietary Research (B.S.), University of Oslo; the Research Forum, Ullevaal University Hospital (I.S.), Oslo; and Akershus College (J.I.P.), Bekkestua, Norway.

Correspondence to Professor Dr Med Jan I. Pedersen, Institute for Nutrition Research, University of Oslo, PO Box 1046 Blindern, 0316 Oslo, Norway. E-mail j.i.pedersen@basalmed.uio.no.


Abstract We have compared the effects of partially hydrogenated fish oil (PHFO diet), partially hydrogenated soybean oil (PHSO diet), and butterfat (butter diet) on fibrinolytic and coagulation variables in 31 young men. The three test margarines, which contributed 78% of total fat in the diets, contained 70% butterfat, PHSO, or PHFO, each with 30% of soybean oil. Fat provided ≈35% of energy, and the content of trans-fatty acids was 0.9%, 8.5%, and 8.0% of energy in the butter diet, PHSO diet, and PHFO diet, respectively. All diets contained 420 mg cholesterol per 10 megajoules per day. All subjects consumed all three test diets for 3 weeks, in a random order (crossover design). The PHSO diet resulted in higher levels of plasminogen activator inhibitor type 1 antigen and plasminogen activator inhibitor type 1 activity than the two other test diets. Fibrinogen increased on the butter diet compared with the PHFO diet. No significant differences in the levels of factor VII, fibrinopeptide A, D-dimer, tissue plasminogen activator or ß-thromboglobulin were observed between the three test diets. The PHFO and the PHSO diets have previously been shown to result in higher levels of Lp(a) compared with the butter diet. The present findings indicate that PHSO has unfavorable antifibrinolytic effects relative to PHFO and butter and that butter may be procoagulant relative to PHFO. More controlled dietary studies are needed to assess definitely the impact of different hydrogenated fats on risk of coronary heart disease.

For vertex balding, would incorporate tocotrienols if you believe you're consuming some of this stuff. Of course, it's best to avoid hydrogenated oils completely. I try also to avoid fried foods, but this is not quite as bad, so when I do, I'll take tocotrienols to buffer some of the negative effects.

Thank you CS
It's intersting you said vertex balding (more thinning in my case, no bald spot yet) is asociated with cardiovascular. Because it's well know tat cannabis has major cardiovscular.
Just one study among many :
w w w.idmu.co.uk/canncardio.htm

And I've been smoking a lot the last three years. Do you think there could be a correlation ?

Generally when hairloss happens everywhere in the scalp in a short period of time, it is caused by something bad : junk food, stress, etc. This hairloss isn't normal.
But when hairloss appears in some areas (vertex, temples), it is considered MPB, it' natural and not a disease. What do you think of this ?

Thank you

niff1250 - Following studies will show that THC does dependently decreases hair growth. However, this might not necessarily be the case when ingesting the oil or maybe even inhaling it, as the study did not get into that detail. In any event, know that resveratrol and curcumin when taken together; act as a reverse agonist for the CB1 receptor. In English, that means that it will block the primary receptor that will trigger neurogenic inflammation that is mediated by the proposed action of endogenous and exogenous cannabinoids.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2757311/?tool=pubmed

http://www.fasebj.org/content/21/13/3534.long

OK thanks for the links.
Unfortunately I suck at biology so I didn't understand everything. I will read it again and make some research to understand better.

Basically, I'm wondering if my hairloss is natural (normal MPB like doctors say) or the consequence of many mistakes (bad food and especially a lot of cannabis - about 10 "weed cigarettes" each day for the last 3 years), meaning this hairloss is the symptom that something is wrong in my body. Do you have any idea ?

Thxs

CausticSymmetry wrote:niff1250 - Following studies will show that THC does dependently decreases hair growth. However, this might not necessarily be the case when ingesting the oil or maybe even inhaling it, as the study did not get into that detail. In any event, know that resveratrol and curcumin when taken together; act as a reverse agonist for the CB1 receptor. In English, that means that it will block the primary receptor that will trigger neurogenic inflammation that is mediated by the proposed action of endogenous and exogenous cannabinoids.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2757311/?tool=pubmed

http://www.fasebj.org/content/21/13/3534.long

I wonder if taking curcumin/resveratrol before smoking weed would prevent you from getting high?

Never noticed anything while being on IH regimen....but I'll try again :)

Never noticed anything while being on IH regimen....but I'll try again

If it works, it would be a waste of good weed .

just met someone who is 48, smoked tons of cannabis for 25+ years, full hear of hair, and very few traces of grey even.


resveratrol (grape juice) does not prevent you from getting high

zanza wrote:just met someone who is 48, smoked tons of cannabis for 25+ years, full hear of hair, and very few traces of grey even.

He isn't susceptible to balding.

mphatesmpb wrote:

If it works, it would be a waste of good weed :).

One more reason to find out!
BTW. ascrobic acid can make you sober in a matter of minutes....also delays the effects of alcohol.