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male pattern baldness associated with elevated cholesterol levels
HEALTH; Baldness Seen as a Link to Risk Factors in Heart Disease
Published: May 31, 1990
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Men who have male pattern baldness, with a receding hairline and hair loss at the crown of the head, may also develop higher cholesterol levels and higher blood pressure as they age than men who have more hair, research suggests.
''Baldness isn't a risk factor for heart disease,'' said Dr. Maurizio Trevisan, a cardiologist at the State University of New York at Buffalo who helped in the research. ''But it is associated with other risk factors.''
Dr. Trevisan, who presented the findings at a recent conference sponsored by the American Heart Association, said the link had not yet been explained. ''We can't say that if you exhibit typical male pattern baldness you're going to have a heart attack,'' he added.
The researchers speculate that the results may be tied to increased hormone levels that some studies have linked with male pattern baldness.
'Something Worth Looking at'
''There is something there worth looking at,'' said Dr. Russell V. Luepker, a professor of cardiology and epidemiology at the University of Minnesota School of Public Health, who was chairman of the conference. ''It could be that blood pressure and cholesterol levels are influenced directly or indirectly by the same hormones involved in hair loss, but there could be other intervening factors. We need more detailed studies to confirm and explain the association.''
The research, which involves 872 male factory workers, is part of a long-term study of coronary risk factors. The study began in 1975 at the University of Naples Medical School in Italy. About 37 percent of the men show no signs of hair loss, 31 percent have a receding hairline and 32 percent have fronto-occipital baldness, the typical male pattern baldness characterized by a receding hairline and hair loss on the crown of the head.
Higher Cholesterol Levels
Men with this male pattern baldness had cholesterol levels five to six milligrams higher than the other men, or about 213.5 milligrams per deciliter. Their diastolic blood pressure was about two points higher, averaging 89.1 millimeters of mercury. The findings were independent of age, body fat, smoking and use of alcohol.
''We are aware that these are not numbers that place these men in a very high-risk category for developing coronary heart disease,'' Dr. Trevisan said. ''But this may change as the men age.''
The average age of the study's participants was 43, he said.
About 600 of the men involved in the most recent part of the study also participated in 1975. A check of the earlier data showed no significant difference in blood pressure and cholesterol levels among the three groups of men. Blood pressure and cholesterol readings increased in all of the men in the study from 1975 to 1987, but the increase was steeper in men with fronto-occipital baldness, the researchers found.
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Re: male pattern baldness associated with elevated cholesterol levels
I do not remember where I found, but was that the more cholesterol you have, you are more estrogen
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Re: male pattern baldness associated with elevated cholesterol levels
Kinda fits in with the theory that insufficient cortisol-line hormones promote MPB.
Body creates cortisol through cholesterol -> pregnenolone -> 17hydroxyprogesterone -> progesterone -> cortisol; liver enzymes for LDL are upregulated in response to insufficient pregnenolone; unfortunately something preventing the cholesterol being synthesised into pregnenolone and then further into the progesterone and cortisol necessary to regulate testosterone and DHT metabolism; body attempts to counteract testosterone by aromatising into oestrogen, but this isn't very effective at the scalp and prostate.
I think that is roughly the idea, I'm just parroting what I've read here: http://www.musclechatroom.com/forum/content.php?121-baldness-and-prostate-101. That's two links in three posts, I will have to try and vary my references a little...
Body creates cortisol through cholesterol -> pregnenolone -> 17hydroxyprogesterone -> progesterone -> cortisol; liver enzymes for LDL are upregulated in response to insufficient pregnenolone; unfortunately something preventing the cholesterol being synthesised into pregnenolone and then further into the progesterone and cortisol necessary to regulate testosterone and DHT metabolism; body attempts to counteract testosterone by aromatising into oestrogen, but this isn't very effective at the scalp and prostate.
I think that is roughly the idea, I'm just parroting what I've read here: http://www.musclechatroom.com/forum/content.php?121-baldness-and-prostate-101. That's two links in three posts, I will have to try and vary my references a little...
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Re: male pattern baldness associated with elevated cholesterol levels
I thought elevated cortisol levels were detrimental to hair? CS, do you have an opinion on this theory that insufficient levels of cortisol and progesterone cause MPB?
Here's a basic summary of what the article states:
This is the reasoning behind the claim that progesterone and cortisol protect against the effects of DHT:
Link to whole article: http://www.musclechatroom.com/forum/content.php?121-baldness-and-prostate-101
Here's a basic summary of what the article states:
when systemic progesterone and systemic cortisol levels are too low, this causes too high DHT metabolism in hair follicles which in turn causes excess free radical damage to the hair follicles on our head in areas where the blood flow is restricted ("due to genetic predisposition").
This is the reasoning behind the claim that progesterone and cortisol protect against the effects of DHT:
Relatively high levels of progesterone are necessary to compete with DHT for DHT receptors. When progesterone triggers a DHT receptor, then DHT cannot trigger that receptor, and the progesterone which enters the cell triggers progesterone's actions not DHT's actions.
Relatively high levels of cortisol are necessary to oppose / downregulate DHT metabolism. Cortisol acts directly on our genes to effect the downregulation of both our T metabolism and our DHT metabolism.
When the cortisol-production-line hormones progesterone and cortisol are too downregulated, then cells will aromatase T into E2, and use the E2 to oppose T metabolism and DHT metabolism. To our cells, this is "Plan B". "Plan A" is to use progesterone and cortisol to oppose / downregulate T and DHT metabolism.
While using E2 to oppose T metabolism and DHT metabolism works well in cells which absorb DHT from serum, it works very poorly in cells which manufacture their own DHT (eg: prostate, and hair follicles, ie: all cells with plenty of 5α reductase). Hence these cells continue to experience too high DHT metabolism even in the presence of too high E2.
At the onset of male pattern baldness, our progesterone and our cortisol have gone too low, which would allow T metabolism and DHT metabolism to go too high, so our cells invoke their secondary defence mechanism and increase E2, and they then use E2 to oppose T metabolism and DHT metabolism.
Link to whole article: http://www.musclechatroom.com/forum/content.php?121-baldness-and-prostate-101
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I did ask the author of that theory about high cortisol and its relation to MPB. He said he wouldn't believe nor theorise about it until he saw proof based on a saliva and or urine test (Though urine can be falsely elevated IMO), however he could think of mechanisms that might allow it.
I don't understand the mechanisms myself, but it could be possible in elevated cortisol states too much progesterone is being 'stolen' to build cortisol leaving too little to oppose DHT.
I know if I pop a progesterone pill any itching or burning of my scalp disappears, though since the pills are too high dose for meI also lose libido soon after as well...
I don't understand the mechanisms myself, but it could be possible in elevated cortisol states too much progesterone is being 'stolen' to build cortisol leaving too little to oppose DHT.
I know if I pop a progesterone pill any itching or burning of my scalp disappears, though since the pills are too high dose for meI also lose libido soon after as well...
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Saturated fat increases serum cholesterol levels, and elevated cholesterol levels correlate with male pattern baldness. CS, what do you make of this? I'm not trying to be a Mr. E...but everyone seems (imo, somewhat blindly) obsessed with increasing dietary saturated fat and eliminating unsaturated fats.
Meta-analyses have found a significant relationship between saturated fat and serum cholesterol levels.[16] High serum cholesterol levels, which may be caused by many factors, are associated with an increased risk of cardiovascular disease.[17] A majority of original studies combined in this meta-analysis found no independent relationship between saturated fat intake and coronary heart disease, which suggests that cholesterol levels that are elevated due to saturated fat intake may be less dangerous than cholesterol levels that are elevated for other reasons.[18] However, saturated fat intake may be associated with fatal outcomes from coronary heart disease.[18]
Substitution of the fat from one ounce of nuts for equivalent energy from saturated fat was associated with a 45% reduction in risk of coronary heart disease.[19]
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Re: male pattern baldness associated with elevated cholesterol levels
Guys,
I've observed significant thinning on the crown after adopting a high protein/fat (especially animal fats and sources of saturated fats) diet over the last 6 months. I'm wondering if the large amounts of saturated fats increased my serum cholesterol, which correlates with male pattern baldness. Ironically, I've observed stabilization and improvement in the frontal parts of my scalp. I was taking tocotrienols, krill oil, and curc/res.
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I've observed significant thinning on the crown after adopting a high protein/fat (especially animal fats and sources of saturated fats) diet over the last 6 months. I'm wondering if the large amounts of saturated fats increased my serum cholesterol, which correlates with male pattern baldness. Ironically, I've observed stabilization and improvement in the frontal parts of my scalp. I was taking tocotrienols, krill oil, and curc/res.
-mp
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Re: male pattern baldness associated with elevated cholesterol levels
mphatesmpb wrote:Guys,
I've observed significant thinning on the crown after adopting a high protein/fat (especially animal fats and sources of saturated fats) diet over the last 6 months. I'm wondering if the large amounts of saturated fats increased my serum cholesterol, which correlates with male pattern baldness. Ironically, I've observed stabilization and improvement in the frontal parts of my scalp. I was taking tocotrienols, krill oil, and curc/res.
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Dietary cholesterol has almost nothing to do with cholesterol levels. Higher cholesterol can be caused from low vitamin D levels, low testosterone, presence of heavy metals or thyroid problems.
I put a section on cholesterol in this egg article that explains the relevance of cholesterol in the body and food.
http://healthyfixx.com/food-and-diet/14/the-truth-about-eggs
Having said that, I think you raised an important point-- Are we consuming enough unsaturated fats? More importantly, are they in the correct form?
This thread should answer these questions and more.
https://immortalhair.forumotion.com/t4431-new-paradigm-shift-peo-s-not-efa-s
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Re: male pattern baldness associated with elevated cholesterol levels
CS,
I agree that dietary cholesterol has little effect on systemic levels of cholesterol. This is because 75% of all cholesterol is manufactured endogenously in the liver, and the body adjusts itself to the amount of cholesterol that is consumed in the diet.
But what about the well-documented relationship between saturated fats and serum cholesterol? There is a lot of evidence showing that large amounts of dietary saturated fat increase serum cholesterol. This concerns me because serum cholesterol has been associated with vertex thinning.
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I agree that dietary cholesterol has little effect on systemic levels of cholesterol. This is because 75% of all cholesterol is manufactured endogenously in the liver, and the body adjusts itself to the amount of cholesterol that is consumed in the diet.
But what about the well-documented relationship between saturated fats and serum cholesterol? There is a lot of evidence showing that large amounts of dietary saturated fat increase serum cholesterol. This concerns me because serum cholesterol has been associated with vertex thinning.
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mphatesmpb - Elevated cholesterol occurs during an infection. Saturated fat does not appreciably increase cholesterol levels either.
http://healthyfixx.com/food-and-diet/1/busting-the-myths-of-saturated-fat
The only real bad cholesterol is Lipoprotein(a). The so-called "bad" cholesterol known as LDL protects against infection.
Saturated fat lowers Lipoprotein(a) levels.
http://healthyfixx.com/food-and-diet/1/busting-the-myths-of-saturated-fat
The only real bad cholesterol is Lipoprotein(a). The so-called "bad" cholesterol known as LDL protects against infection.
Saturated fat lowers Lipoprotein(a) levels.
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My cholesterol levels are low, probably due to my food is Rich in Fiber, this can be good or bad ?
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Steven_Tyler wrote:My cholesterol levels are low, probably due to my food is Rich in Fiber, this can be good or bad ?
What's your cholesterol level?
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CausticSymmetry wrote:Steven_Tyler wrote:My cholesterol levels are low, probably due to my food is Rich in Fiber, this can be good or bad ?
What's your cholesterol level?
<200 (Good) ~ >240 (Bad)
My level= 129mg/dl
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Steven_Tyler wrote:CausticSymmetry wrote:Steven_Tyler wrote:My cholesterol levels are low, probably due to my food is Rich in Fiber, this can be good or bad ?
What's your cholesterol level?
<200 (Good) ~ >240 (Bad)
My level= 129mg/dl
I'm afraid that's too low.
Also the reference ranges for cholesterol are not really based on science. Turns out a cholesterol level above 200 is associated with more favorable mortality rates. Based on hundreds of thousands of blood chemistry tests, the ideal level of cholesterol is believed to be 225 approximately.
Here's a useful link below that discusses some causes low cholesterol.
http://www.ctds.info/low_cholesterol.html
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Re: male pattern baldness associated with elevated cholesterol levels
CausticSymmetry wrote:mphatesmpb - Elevated cholesterol occurs during an infection. Saturated fat does not appreciably increase cholesterol levels either.
http://healthyfixx.com/food-and-diet/1/busting-the-myths-of-saturated-fat
The only real bad cholesterol is Lipoprotein(a). The so-called "bad" cholesterol known as LDL protects against infection.
Saturated fat lowers Lipoprotein(a) levels.
He's right - LpA will f*&k you. If you want to increase it, only eat really heavy cheesecake and drink engne oil kind of foods. Ha!
Even then you can beat it back with Mg Ascorbate, Proline and Lysine. I know!
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