Why is Vit C not in the IH Regimen?

CS, why isn't vit. C included in the regimen? Does this speak of your opinion of this vitamin? I was surprised to see that wikipedia is downplaying the importance of vit C supplementation.

What's up, teacup.

While Vitamin C isn't explicitly in the IH regimen, CS has advocated high-dose vitamin C intake.

Thanks.

teacup - Pureway C or http://www.iherb.com/Doctor-s-Best-PureWay-C-Sustained-Release-Vit-C-60-Tablets/14049?at=0

Vitamin C is quite important, it works in a variety of ways, but ultimately it enhances everything else taken.

wikipedia is another mainstream outlet and is very suspicious. I never rely on this source for anything information that is related to health issues, the bias is very strong.

CS - But, is this a natural form of C?

It has "lipid C metabolites" .. what is that?

What do you think about 4:1 Acerola http://www.iherb.com/Now-Foods-Acerola-4-1-Concentrate-Powder-6-oz-170-g/367?at=0

or this C complex with acerola and rose hip? http://www.iherb.com/Now-Foods-C-500-Complex-With-Bioflavonoids-Acerola-Rose-Hips-250-Tablets/7186?at=0

Aren't these two more natural than PureWay-C ?

acerola and rose hips are over hyped. The full story is long (I'm extremely limited on time, too little to explain).

Pure-Way C is 20 times more effective (at least).

It's similar to ascorbyl palmitate (fat soluble), not only water soluble and will last for 12 hours, instead 30 minutes.

If you take the "regular" vitamin C, then if you go outside in the sun, it can oxide. Pure Way-C form will not.

CS - Thank you for helping me decide which vit C to get you're the best!

What about Lypo-Spheric?

http://www.amazon.com/LivOn-Laboratories-Lypo-Spheric-Vitamin-C/dp/B000CD9XGC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=hpc&qid=1284523167&sr=8-1

NewReg wrote:What about Lypo-Spheric?

http://www.amazon.com/LivOn-Laboratories-Lypo-Spheric-Vitamin-C/dp/B000CD9XGC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=hpc&qid=1284523167&sr=8-1

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CS - I thought you recommended Lypo-spheric?

Yes, lypo-spheric would be ideal, but it is a little pricey.

Littlefighter made a post sometime back on how to make your own.

I don't understand why people supplement with high dose Vitamin C, won't it just cause a major Copper deficiency and lower Manganese levels?

goten574 - Instead of taking vitamin C in a pill, take it in whole foods! You won't develop any deficiency because 'nature' in its infinite complexity has already balanced everything out.

"Vitamins in Nature do not exist as isolated molecules. A molecule of ascorbic acid is not vitamin C, d-alpha tocopherol is not Vitamin E; they're merely individual pieces of much bigger puzzles. It's not even just a matter of missing out on some benefits, these nutrients have multiple interacting roles. [1] So, when you use a synthetic instead of the living complexes found in Nature, you upset the metabolic balance.

"...interaction with other antioxidants may explain how foods containing small amounts of Vitamins provide greater benefits than larger doses of the synthetic forms"
E. Herrera, San Pablo University, Spain

The kakadu plum(Terminalia ferdinandiana) has the highest vitamin C concentration known of any food. Containing over 5% vitamin C by weight 5000mg per 100g - 100 times the concentration found in oranges(50mg per 100g).

Seriously unless people start changing their diets and essentially their whole lifestyle, they will never get on top of health or hair loss especially in the long term.

Silverlin wrote:goten574 - Instead of taking vitamin C in a pill, take it in whole foods! You won't develop any deficiency because 'nature' in its infinite complexity has already balanced everything out.

"Vitamins in Nature do not exist as isolated molecules. A molecule of ascorbic acid is not vitamin C, d-alpha tocopherol is not Vitamin E; they're merely individual pieces of much bigger puzzles. It's not even just a matter of missing out on some benefits, these nutrients have multiple interacting roles. [1] So, when you use a synthetic instead of the living complexes found in Nature, you upset the metabolic balance.

"...interaction with other antioxidants may explain how foods containing small amounts of Vitamins provide greater benefits than larger doses of the synthetic forms"
E. Herrera, San Pablo University, Spain

The kakadu plum(Terminalia ferdinandiana) has the highest vitamin C concentration known of any food. Containing over 5% vitamin C by weight 5000mg per 100g - 100 times the concentration found in oranges(50mg per 100g).

Seriously unless people start changing their diets and essentially their whole lifestyle, they will never get on top of health or hair loss especially in the long term.

Silverlin - thanks. You do make an important point, I am all about natural things but when it comes to supplements I compromise my stance. For instance i do take brewer's yeast and desiccated liver .. you can argue these are not natural because they are in a supplement form, but they are supplements of natural food, right?

I compromise more when I take things like vitamin C, D3 + k, and biotin because i take the pill form and these are not natural foods. In order to get these in form of food i'd have to eat the kakadu plum or other fruits for C, raw eggs for biotin, and suntan for D.

Do you take all these in form of food?

What do you think about supplements as these:
4:1 Acerola http://www.iherb.com/Now-Foods-Acerola-4-1-Concentrate-Powder-6-oz-170-g/367?at=0

C complex with acerola and rose hip? http://www.iherb.com/Now-Foods-C-500-Complex-With-Bioflavonoids-Acerola-Rose-Hips-250-Tablets/7186?at=0

CS has said that Pure-Way C is more effective than the natural form.

Pure-Way C is 20 times more effective (at least).

Also, CS recommended these: Lypo-spheric and Pure-Way C. they dont sound too natural to me. It's a fine line we need to draw here, I try to get everything naturally but what if science is able to offer better? I am very anti pharmasuiticals even an asprin or tylenol, but i find myself taking Pure-Way C, biotin, D etc.

What do you personally eat to get vit C, biotin, K, E, A, zinc, iron?

Great source of Vitamin C? A good Camu Camu Berry powder. I've been on the fence about us offering a Vitamin C supplement for this very reason; there simply are too many alternatives available out there from whole foods.

Dr Mercola on vitamins from "food" and whole foods.
He also talks about Vitamin D 5000 units

He also talks about minerals and about how supplements are made

http://products.mercola.com/multivitamin-vital-minerals/?source=nl