Hereditary MPB

Or, here's another theory:

The native women favored males with MPB and thus the "gene" for baldness got to be passed down to more individuals.

Perhaps the women looked at men in their villages and noticed that all the smart, tactical, successful ones (maybe ones with positions of authority or with more possessions i.e. modern day equivalent of money/business/property) and found these men provided a better future for their children so they mated with bald males as they associated baldness with security.

Maybe the men that balded were ones that ate a lot due to their success causing MPB, or worried a lot about their possessions exhibiting MPB as a result.

Women today still see balding men as successful and men with a full head of hair as younger, equating success with age.

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The point is teacup, we don't know, maybe at one point in human history there were no men with MPB. We assume there were MPB in the past because we now have a culture that examines these superficial identifications. But MPB maybe something recent.

Reply to any link between corticosteroids and moon face?

tooyoung - Yes that can happen. Asthma can be eradicated in children usually by one of two measures, either supplying them with enough vitamin D, or having them eliminate allergic foods (such as sugar, wheat/gluten).

I've been taking asthma inhalers for years, I don't take them as frequently as I used to due to my asthma being better. Will just stopping them unless really needed stop/reduce moon face? I don't know if I have it, I'd probably know if I had it.

In Norway the amount of children suffering from asthma is 26 %. Iow, 1 out 4 children below 10 suffers from asthma. When comparing this number to the 0.05 or something that was the amount 30 years ago, one could say that the incidences of asthma has skyrocketed.

Diet, lack of exercise and pollution is blamed, childrens genetic make up is being altered through enviromental exposure.

This is epigenetics, and that is exactly what we are dealing with when we try to improve our mpb through diet, supplements and even medication like finasteride. The principles between treating mpb with finasteride and diet and supplements and topicals is the same, the genetic expression is affected by what we expose our follicles too. The same goes for bloodwessels, muscles, connective tissue and further on. In physiotherapy, we see a clear link between diet and incidences ligamentous injuries, muscle strains and so on. RA patients clearly states that their disease is affected by how they eat. RA is an autoimmune disease.

I find it very hard to understand when someone says that diet and mpb is not related, and it is a purely genetic disorder. I believe they have it completely wrong, because diet and genetics are closely linked.. epigenetics is something we will hear more and more from in the future.

Will we cure mpb with diet? I guess not, I dont believe so.. but is surely helps.. just like finasteride does.

We should also remember that most of the stuff we've been eating for many many years have been heavily modified (constantly refined, by both man and nature), somewhat leading to the use of GMO's.

I don't know to much about the epigenetics but I did see a NOVA program on the subject. It was though provoking to say the least; what your recent ancestors experienced can play role in your inherited genes. From what I understand, there is a non-genetic component to these genes that can be influenced by environmental conditions that actually don't affect the genes sequence but still can have a different genetic expression. So, if epigenetics is true, then it is possible to change the genes behavior? Instead of an environmental condition that changes a gene expression to something that is deleterious, maybe something that works positively, maybe change the gene expression for MPB? Or did I just misunderstand epigenetics completely?

Bump - CS, on the first page of this thread you said at some point you'd be looking into possibile non-surgical methods of dealing with jawbone infections. Is there any update on this?

diffuse - Yes, I looked into it. The findings were not so good. The problem is that infectious material has to be removed. Even if there was a way to obliterate it, there is no passage way for the obliterated material to go, just leaves more noxious waste.

Thanks for the update, disappointing news though. I've read that zappers may help in some cases, does this mean you disagree with that given what you say above?