cheese....to eat or not to eat

I hear all these intelligent posters talkin' bout that bad dairy.

Now, if we can't digest pasteurized milk, does the same go for cheese made from that source? That might have been a stupid question, but yeah, I was thinking maybe the processing and aging might change a few things.

All in all, I mean to ask:

Is cheese bad for you?

Yes, cheese is very bad. Cheese contains no phytonutrients, fiber, or vitamin-C. Plus all dairy-foods, whether organic or not, contains hormones: IGF-1, estrogen [1], and DHT precursors [2]. Cheese is concentrated milk, if you eat an ounce of cheese; it's like drinking 5 ounces of milk. Plus milk is not natural for humans, it is meant for baby-calf’s...until they are weaned. And evidence is clear that drinking milk causes cardiovascular-disease and clogged arteries [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [11], a disease, which correlates with MPB [12].

Yes, I know it’s hard to give up cheese, and here is why: Dr. Neal Barnard has discovered opiate-chemicals in milk. I'm not talking morphine or heroin, but very mild-subtle opiates that provide a soft calming sensation. So why does milk contain opiate-chemicals. "Because Mother-Nature leaves nothing to chance" Barnard says. If a baby-calf stopped drinking milk before it is weaned-off for some reason, chances are it would die or become sick. So nature has put these opiate-chemicals in the milk that way the calf will want to drink the milk; to ensure its proper growth and development.

[1] Mammary secretion of oestrogens in the cow.
[2] A survey of the steroids in cows’ milk.
[3] Milk and Arteriosclerosis.
[4] Dietary Lactose as a Possible Risk Factor for Ischaemic Heart Disease: Review of Epidemiology.
[5] Health Implications of Mediterranean Diets in Light of Contemporary Knowledge: Plant foods and Dairy Products.
[6] Milk and Other Dietary Influences on Coronary Heart Disease.
[7] Variation in Mortality From Ischemic Heart Disease in Relation to Alcohol and Milk Consumption.
[8] Diet and Coronary Disease: A Survey of Mortality Rates and Food Consumption Statistics of 24 Countries.
[9] Survival Trends, Coronary Event Rates, and the MONICA Project.
[10] Food Intake Patterns and 25-Year Mortality from Coronary Heart Disease: Cross-Cultural Correlations in the Seven Countries Study.
[11] Diet and Coronary Heart Disease: A Survey of Female Mortality Rates and Food Consumption Statistics of 21 Countries
[12] Male pattern baldness and coronary heart disease: the Physicians' Health Study.

Well, I just came across this:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:UVtbjp34Z1AJ:www.mercola.com/forms/cheese.htm+mercola+cheese&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca&client=firefox-a

Mercola's still selling the stuff, but the article seems pretty legit. My logic so far is, if raw milk is great for you, why wouldn't cheese made from it be? DHT precursors don't bother me one bit. DHT is responsible for so much awesome stuff. My skin was so disgusting on propecia, I looked like I was on coke.


Could I get some more non-biased opinions on this?

Where do you guys find your research papers you post, by the way? I'd love to know where CS gets his stuff.

http://www.nealirc.org/Gerontology/OldestMan.html
He drinks milk daily, his meals consists mostly of vegetables, and his favorite food is fried shrimp.
Tomoji Tanabe, born September 18, 1895. *
January 24, 2007 - June 19, 2009.
111 years 128 days - 113 years 274 days.



Emiliano Mercado del Toro, born August 21, 1891. **
Oldest man in world, November 19, 2004 - January 24, 2007 [796 days].
113 years 90 days - 115 years 156 days [12th oldest person - oldest].
He liked to eat funche, a boiled corn, codfish, and milk cream-like dish which he ate everyday.


Yukichi Chuganji, born March 23, 1889. *
January 3, 2002 - September 28, 2003 8:50 P.M. [633 days].
112 years 286 days - 114 years 189 days [12th oldest - 2nd oldest].
He drank milk every day. He was 33 days away from becoming the oldest person in the world.


97 year old still working DOCTOR
For breakfast Hinohara drinks coffee, a glass of milk and some orange juice with a tablespoon of olive oil in it. His lunch is milk and a few cookies. His dinner is veggies, a bit of fish and rice, and, twice a week, 100 grams of lean meat.

World's oldest woman dies at 116

Her family said donkey milk might be key to her longevity.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5293436.stm


poor Mistere...