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Post  goten574 Sun May 09, 2010 11:45 pm

I have a hardly used bottle of SSKI sitting in my cupboard and I plan to buy 200mcg of Selenium soon. How do I turn this combo into something like Lugol's? SSKI is iodide so I need some kind of iodine right? I don't want to pay for Lugol's when I already have SSKI here so should I buy an additional bottle of iodine and take that with the SSKI?
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Post  goten574 Tue May 11, 2010 5:50 am

Rolling Eyes Can no one help? Is going on Iodine not worth it then?
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Post  CausticSymmetry Tue May 11, 2010 8:54 am

goten574 - This might help with what to do with this stuff. Personally I have this stuff and it's extremely useful for a lot of things.

http://www.nogw.com/download/_07_sski.pdf

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Post  goten574 Tue May 11, 2010 9:16 am

CausticSymmetry wrote:goten574 - This might help with what to do with this stuff. Personally I have this stuff and it's extremely useful for a lot of things.

http://www.nogw.com/download/_07_sski.pdf

CS, I think you misunderstood me but thanks for the useful pdf.

A lot of people here are using Lugol's and Selenium for general health and I want to as well, the problem is money and availability. I already paid ALOT of money for SSKI (because of postage and customs tax) so I may as well use it up as a substitute for Lugol's, however I think you said (and I may be wrong) that SSKI is not as effective as using Lugol's because it is absent of iodine. Therefore, is it possible to buy an additional liquid solution to complement the SSKI enabling me to have both low dose iodine and iodide? Or should I just take iodide from the SSKI with Selenium and forget iodine?
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Post  goten574 Tue May 11, 2010 9:50 am

Really wish there was an edit button on this forum.

Would Iosol be suitable with SSKI and Selenium? I hear this is only Iodine and SSKI is only Iodide so the two match? Problem is, I want no more than a typical Japanese person consumes so would this combination not be suitable?
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Post  CausticSymmetry Tue May 11, 2010 10:32 am

goten574 - If you consume enough vitamin C, you can convert some of that KI into iodine.

I've tried in vain to fix the edit function, I do not have a clue what it will not let me fix it--I've tried many times.

The only option is to make you a moderator, and if anyone wants, I can make that happen--more power to get rid of spammers.

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Post  goten574 Tue May 11, 2010 10:36 am

CausticSymmetry wrote:goten574 - If you consume enough vitamin C, you can convert some of that KI into iodine.

I've tried in vain to fix the edit function, I do not have a clue what it will not let me fix it--I've tried many times.

The only option is to make you a moderator, and if anyone wants, I can make that happen--more power to get rid of spammers.

So you would suggest I take Vitamin C instead of adding Iosol? In what form? Supplement? How much Vit C and how many drops of SSKI per day?

Why not post on a PHPBB forum and ask for help with the edit button?
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Post  goten574 Wed May 12, 2010 4:45 am

To conclude my previous message, I forgot to ask, CS you said iodide turns into iodine when Vit C is added but isn't this the other way around?
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Post  goten574 Thu May 13, 2010 9:17 am

Feels like I am talking to myself on this forum sometimes. I should probably post non hair related questions elsewhere, perhaps curezone, I may get a reply on there. Rolling Eyes
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Post  CausticSymmetry Fri May 14, 2010 8:27 am

goten574 - See this for more info:

http://www.optimox.com/pics/Iodine/IOD-11/IOD_11.htm

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Post  goten574 Sat May 15, 2010 4:27 am

So I can safely take 200mcg of Selenium, 1 drop of SSKI and a Vit C supplement everyday and I will be fine? No thyroid issues?
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Post  brandnew Sat May 15, 2010 5:35 am

In regards to the thyroid, it is all dependent on how functional it is. You might not need the Lugol's if you only need a small amount of Iodine - the Vit C should give you that. Best thing is to take your temperature in the morning and gauge what quantity from that, and its effects on you.

That said, people on here are using Lugols to simply improve their health, rather than just for thyroid regulation. Seem to be a lot of postive reviews on here, as well as curezone.

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Post  goten574 Sat May 15, 2010 6:32 am

brandnew wrote:In regards to the thyroid, it is all dependent on how functional it is. You might not need the Lugol's if you only need a small amount of Iodine - the Vit C should give you that. Best thing is to take your temperature in the morning and gauge what quantity from that, and its effects on you.

That said, people on here are using Lugols to simply improve their health, rather than just for thyroid regulation. Seem to be a lot of postive reviews on here, as well as curezone.

That's why I want iodine too, I want to leave my thyroid how it is and just take small doses of iodine <14mg for general health and maybe over long term to remove bromine/fluorine from my body.
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Post  ubraj Sat May 15, 2010 7:03 am

goten574 wrote:So I can safely take 200mcg of Selenium, 1 drop of SSKI and a Vit C supplement everyday and I will be fine? No thyroid issues?

Depends on the form of selenium. Selenomethionine & Methylselenocysteine. Selenomethionine would be to detox heavy metals, etc.. Methylselenocysteine would be to provide the anti cancer.

In the stricktist sense, Vitamin C converts Iodine ----> Iodide. However, Iodide CAN be converted to Iodine but is said to be a lesser amount. Also, if you have a defective Iodine transport system then adding vitamin C will help this process along.

Keep in mind that the recent "scientific" information regarding Iodine and Iodide has only been coming out the past couple of years. Information changes as far as protocol and there is no one size fits all approach to Iodine/Iodide supplementation and it especially depends on what you're after ----> detox, thyroid, heart disease, etc..

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Post  goten574 Sat May 15, 2010 7:19 am

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goten574 wrote:So I can safely take 200mcg of Selenium, 1 drop of SSKI and a Vit C supplement everyday and I will be fine? No thyroid issues?

Depends on the form of selenium. Selenomethionine & Methylselenocysteine. Selenomethionine would be to detox heavy metals, etc.. Methylselenocysteine would be to provide the anti cancer.

In the stricktist sense, Vitamin C converts Iodine ----> Iodide. However, Iodide CAN be converted to Iodine but is said to be a lesser amount. Also, if you have a defective Iodine transport system then adding vitamin C will help this process along.

Keep in mind that the recent "scientific" information regarding Iodine and Iodide has only been coming out the past couple of years. Information changes as far as protocol and there is no one size fits all approach to Iodine/Iodide supplementation and it especially depends on what you're after ----> detox, thyroid, heart disease, etc..

How much Vitamin C would I need if I take 200mcg of Selenomethionine and 1 drop of SSKI a day? As I said, I want this for general health with perhaps a slow detox of heavy metals.
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Post  ubraj Sat May 15, 2010 9:03 am

The companion nutrients dosage =

"Vitamin C - 3,000 mg per day" to "50 mg Iodoral [Iodoral is same as Lugol's] minimum for breast cancer (may start with 12.5 mg)."

companion nutrients = http://www.breastcancerchoices.org/iprotocol.html

Lugol's/Iodoral is really "potassium tri-iodide" That SSKI is probably a different form so will be different but if you bought this

http://www.tahomadispensary.com/istar.asp?a=6&id=110067%21162

it contains "Approximately 25 mg of Potassium Iodide (SSKI) 19 mg as Iodine"

Also, keep in mind when people such as the above quote from breastcancerchoices mention 50 mg of Lugol's/Iodoral 50 mg of Lugol's/Iodoral = 20 mg Iodine & 30 mg Iodide.

Also, see this link regarding mixing different forms of Iodine/Iodide http://curezone.com/faq/q.asp?a=13,281,2962&q=789

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Post  ubraj Sat May 15, 2010 9:05 am

Also, if you're using Iodine/Iodide for candida and heavy metals make sure you take boron.

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Post  goten574 Sat May 15, 2010 9:24 am

Yes, that's the exact SSKI I have. Are you suggesting I take 3g of Vitamin C a day? I am concerned with taking so much as it will lower Manganese and Copper, causing an inbalance. I can't keep buying different supplements, it's getting expensive and crazy...

What happens if I take 1 drop of SSKI and 200mcg of Selenium a day? Any negative results? Basically I am asking if Vitamin C is necessary in my case and if it is, perhaps 1g of Vitamin C would make me feel more comfortable.

Also, if 1 drop of SSKI is enough to remove heavy metals over time, is Boron really necessary?

Sorry if my questions sound dumb.
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Post  ubraj Sat May 15, 2010 9:41 am

Iodine/Iodide probably won't do much for candida based on real world experiences. Boron appears to provide synergy with Iodine in regards to candida coming under control. Boron is also antidote for flouride poisoning. Selenomethionine needed for mercury and thyroid. Vitamin C/Amla to help with lead and to detox bromide and fix Iodide transport system. Minimum 50 mg of Iodine will fix defective Iodide tranport system though. I personally don't really take ascorbic acid unless I take AMLA as Salt Water Protocol is good for bromide detox.

An alternative to selenomethionine is Brazil Nuts that still have there shell. Boron is cheap. Alternative to boron is 20 mule borax laundry detergent. Earthclinic.com has good info on this.

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Post  goten574 Sat May 15, 2010 10:13 am

I am not sure why you are talking about candida, as far as I know, I don't have that Razz

I'm becoming really confused and wish people could give me a straight answer. I'll do some more research later and see if I can find some answers.
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Post  ubraj Sat May 15, 2010 10:33 am

goten574 wrote:I am not sure why you are talking about candida, as far as I know, I don't have that Razz

I'm becoming really confused and wish people could give me a straight answer. I'll do some more research later and see if I can find some answers.

I've been throwing you a bone this whole time.

There isn't a one size fits all answer to Iodine supplementation and thus why the quotes and links!

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Post  goten574 Sat May 15, 2010 10:39 am

jdp701 wrote:
goten574 wrote:I am not sure why you are talking about candida, as far as I know, I don't have that Razz

I'm becoming really confused and wish people could give me a straight answer. I'll do some more research later and see if I can find some answers.

I've been throwing you a bone this whole time.

There isn't a one size fits all answer to Iodine supplementation and thus why the quotes and links!

The quotes and links aren't helping much and i'm getting more confused. I know it's not one size fits all, I just want to use up my SSKI along with Selenium in a low, safe dose for possible health benefits and a slight detox of heavy metals. Is this really such a complex thing? If so, I think I will abandon the whole idea and drop iodine/iodide altogether.
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Post  goten574 Sat May 15, 2010 10:43 am

Also, the breast cancer link talks about Iodoral but i have SSKI which is different right? If i had Lugol's, things would be easier to understand.
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Post  CausticSymmetry Sat May 15, 2010 11:01 am

goten574 - The problem is, no one uses SSKI for these purposes. I would suggest keeping it on hand for the future, and get some cheap Iosol or Lugols.

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Post  goten574 Sat May 15, 2010 11:26 am

CausticSymmetry wrote:goten574 - The problem is, no one uses SSKI for these purposes. I would suggest keeping it on hand for the future, and get some cheap Iosol or Lugols.

This brings me back to my original question. What can I add to SSKI to make it like Lugols? Or is there nothing? Surely SSKI daily is better than nothing at all? Thanks anyway for your information, I may get Iosol from iHerb in the future but I have had enough of buying supplement after supplement, it is costing me a fortune.
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