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Miracle Mineral Solution (MMS)
Anyone heard of MMS? Anyone tried it for any illness? Did it work? Just curious as I never heard of this before.
goten574- Posts : 489
Join date : 2009-08-03
Location : UK
Re: Miracle Mineral Solution (MMS)
Hi Goten, we have actually had a few threads about MMS. The search button doesnt work to well though. A few people on here have had success with it and swear by it. I am probably going to try it out myself before too long.
Re: Miracle Mineral Solution (MMS)
What sort of success do you mean? Anything to do with hair? If not, what sort of illnesses is it effective against? Is this potentially dangerous?
Yes, I did perform a forum search but it came back with zero results (must be because I search for MMS which is too short).
Yes, I did perform a forum search but it came back with zero results (must be because I search for MMS which is too short).
goten574- Posts : 489
Join date : 2009-08-03
Location : UK
Re: Miracle Mineral Solution (MMS)
I've got MMS been lazy on using it though, but it's definitely apparently amazing stuff. CS tried it and took a little more than the amount that he should have, and wound up getting some die-off symptoms.
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nidhogge- Posts : 2142
Join date : 2008-07-10
Re: Miracle Mineral Solution (MMS)
I realised a store near me sells this, what sort of things is it used for?
tooyoung- Posts : 1978
Join date : 2009-05-17
Location : England
Re: Miracle Mineral Solution (MMS)
If you use the google button the search works well in this forum.
https://immortalhair.forumotion.com/googleresults.forum?q=mms&sid=&domains=immortalhair.forumotion.com&sitesearch=immortalhair.forumotion.com&client=&forid=1&channel=3119321536&ie=iso-8859-1&oe=iso-8859-1&hl=en&cof=GALT%3A%23198910%3BGL%3A1%3BDIV%3A%23ebeadd%3BVLC%3A%23108912%3BAH%3Acenter%3BBGC%3A%23ecf7ee%3BLBGC%3A%23ebeadd%3BALC%3A%2346d236%3BLC%3A%23198910%3BT%3A%23536482%3BGFNT%3A%23198910%3BGIMP%3A%23198910%3BFORID%3A11
As far as safety, yes, I personally don't believe it is safe. There are better options IMO.
https://immortalhair.forumotion.com/googleresults.forum?q=mms&sid=&domains=immortalhair.forumotion.com&sitesearch=immortalhair.forumotion.com&client=&forid=1&channel=3119321536&ie=iso-8859-1&oe=iso-8859-1&hl=en&cof=GALT%3A%23198910%3BGL%3A1%3BDIV%3A%23ebeadd%3BVLC%3A%23108912%3BAH%3Acenter%3BBGC%3A%23ecf7ee%3BLBGC%3A%23ebeadd%3BALC%3A%2346d236%3BLC%3A%23198910%3BT%3A%23536482%3BGFNT%3A%23198910%3BGIMP%3A%23198910%3BFORID%3A11
As far as safety, yes, I personally don't believe it is safe. There are better options IMO.
kijumn- Posts : 1133
Join date : 2008-11-28
Re: Miracle Mineral Solution (MMS)
I use it at the moment. I´m suffering since a couple of month from bacterial prostate infection, which presists though several antibiotic efforts.
At hte moment I´m using doxycyline MMS 1 -12 drops 2xday and MMS2 1200mg a day.
Using that comby since 5 days let´s see...
No die off symtoms in me.
At hte moment I´m using doxycyline MMS 1 -12 drops 2xday and MMS2 1200mg a day.
Using that comby since 5 days let´s see...
No die off symtoms in me.
Do you mean SSKI, or what is in your mind?As far as safety, yes, I personally don't believe it is safe. There are better options IMO
tao81- Posts : 169
Join date : 2008-10-21
Re: Miracle Mineral Solution (MMS)
tao81 wrote:I use it at the moment. I´m suffering since a couple of month from bacterial prostate infection, which presists though several antibiotic efforts.
At hte moment I´m using doxycyline MMS 1 -12 drops 2xday and MMS2 1200mg a day.
Using that comby since 5 days let´s see...
No die off symtoms in me.Do you mean SSKI, or what is in your mind?As far as safety, yes, I personally don't believe it is safe. There are better options IMO
What do you mean about SSKI? SSKI is more effective than MMS?
goten574- Posts : 489
Join date : 2009-08-03
Location : UK
Re: Miracle Mineral Solution (MMS)
Hmm hard to say. I think SSKI might be more powerful, but because I´m going to use this for 3 weeks i think mms is safer.What do you mean about SSKI? SSKI is more effective than MMS?
tao81- Posts : 169
Join date : 2008-10-21
Re: Miracle Mineral Solution (MMS)
tao81,
I was speaking in general terms regarding MMS. IMO, MMS is not safe, IMO.
Here's one link why
http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1073019#i
There are other reasons including that MMS is a halogen and will compete with Iodine in the body. I'd monitor thyroid with barnes basal temperature test personally and would go slowly. I would also load up on Iodine as well.
Regarding safety of SSKI, it's safe. The only issue is to make sure you take selenium ... preferabbly as selenomethionine to balance the thyoid. If still concerned can take the other companion nutrients http://curezone.com/faq/q.asp?a=13,281,2962&q=560
Regarding other treatments that would be effective like MMS, yes, Iodine/Iodide/SSKI would be similiar. Flanagan's negative Hydrogen (Mega H/Mega Hydrate) or the Hydrogen proton (e.g. hydrogenwaterstick.com), a good zapper, frequency generator/rife machine, maybe Lypo-Spheric Vitamin C, collodial silver ... maybe high dose enzymes or Betaine HCI depending on condtion.
Those are all general treatments for a variety of ailments that work very well. Not sure how any of those beyond Iodide/SSKI would work for prostate infections though.
I was speaking in general terms regarding MMS. IMO, MMS is not safe, IMO.
Here's one link why
http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1073019#i
There are other reasons including that MMS is a halogen and will compete with Iodine in the body. I'd monitor thyroid with barnes basal temperature test personally and would go slowly. I would also load up on Iodine as well.
Regarding safety of SSKI, it's safe. The only issue is to make sure you take selenium ... preferabbly as selenomethionine to balance the thyoid. If still concerned can take the other companion nutrients http://curezone.com/faq/q.asp?a=13,281,2962&q=560
Regarding other treatments that would be effective like MMS, yes, Iodine/Iodide/SSKI would be similiar. Flanagan's negative Hydrogen (Mega H/Mega Hydrate) or the Hydrogen proton (e.g. hydrogenwaterstick.com), a good zapper, frequency generator/rife machine, maybe Lypo-Spheric Vitamin C, collodial silver ... maybe high dose enzymes or Betaine HCI depending on condtion.
Those are all general treatments for a variety of ailments that work very well. Not sure how any of those beyond Iodide/SSKI would work for prostate infections though.
ubraj- Posts : 2245
Join date : 2009-06-19
Re: Miracle Mineral Solution (MMS)
JPD thx for your input.
Regarding mms, i second you that it is not that safe as beeing said. Beeing a halogen and thus beeing a strong prooxidant is for sure not healty for your body. But I think 3 weeks should be ok...at least i hope so...
I hope that this stuff will wipe out those fucking bacteria in my prostate. Killing germs in the prostate can be very nasty because most antibiotics don´t reach enough there.
Till now I haven´t had any probs. with MMS , but I know people who got bad reactions.
I take kombu for the iodine isue.
But SSKI has it´s negativ aspects also.
Regarding mms, i second you that it is not that safe as beeing said. Beeing a halogen and thus beeing a strong prooxidant is for sure not healty for your body. But I think 3 weeks should be ok...at least i hope so...
I hope that this stuff will wipe out those fucking bacteria in my prostate. Killing germs in the prostate can be very nasty because most antibiotics don´t reach enough there.
Till now I haven´t had any probs. with MMS , but I know people who got bad reactions.
I take kombu for the iodine isue.
But SSKI has it´s negativ aspects also.
tao81- Posts : 169
Join date : 2008-10-21
Re: Miracle Mineral Solution (MMS)
Forgot about LLLT. Here's a study if nothing else seems to work.
SEMICONDUCTOR LASER RAYS THERAPY FOR THE TREATMENT OF CHRONIC PROSTATITIS
Prof. Guido Strada, Dr med. Franco Gadda, Dr med. Paolo Dell'Orto, Dr med. Marilena Casu, Dr med. Andrea Baccalin Department of Urology, San Gerardo Hospital, Monza (Milan-Italy)
Introduction: Chronic prostatitis (ACP) hasn't a universally successful therapy yet. A lot of studies demonstrated that LASER therapy has an anti-inflammatory effect on tissues and can increase lymphatic and venous drainage reducing inflammatory swelling. For this reasons in the early 90s we proposed a new therapeutic system for ACP using semiconductor LASER rays consisting of a gallium-arsenide diode. At the beginning an endorectal probe was used; then we invented a particular endourethral probe for laser therapy. This is a brief abstract of what we achieved during these years.
Histological preliminary studies: Many authors studied biological effects of LASER on animal tissues (1). Before clinical practice LASER therapy was tested on a cancer cell line (SW 626) in order to evaluate if laser stimulation could increase mitosis cell rate (2) and therefore have a carcinogenic-like effect. We didn't observe any change in mitosis cell rate. Another study (3) was made on rabbits to test in vivo any immediate histopathological damages and temperature rising in rectal ampulla using transrectal probe. Temperature rising was about 2/10th of a degree centigrade. No histopathological alterations of rectal wall and the prostate were observed with particular care of signs of swellig, flogosis or fibrosis.
Materials and methods: The gallium-arsenide diode in use has a wave lenght of 904 nm and a frequency of 3000 Hz. The Laser beam reaches the prostate with a special optic probe. This is divided in two sections: one contains the laser generator, the other has five optic fibers and it is screwed onto the first creating a single body of reduced dimensions. It can be sterilized and it is atoxic. We experimented 2 different approaches to the prostate: the first was an endorectal approach and the second was an endourethral approach. At the beginning we used a "Laser Super Sonic" machine with endorectal probe according to Strada. The treatment schedule was 1 treatment every two days (treatment's time of 12 minutes,wave lenght 3000 Hz)) for a total of 12 applications. Transrectal laser therapy was not indicated in prostate larger than 4 cm because this is the maximum depth of the laser beam's efficacy. Then we experimented an urethral probe (Med 130 Lasotronic â Wave lenght 820 nm, power 30 mW) in order to reduce energy leakage and increase patient's tolerability. In this case patients underwent 1 treatment every 3 days for a total of 8 applications (treatment's time of 4 minutes). From 1990 to 1999 more than 200 patients underwent this kind of treatment. We pubblished results in previous studies (4-5).
Clinical results: More than 65% of the patients obtained a symptoms' relief even at 6 months after treatment. We observed a decrease in IPSS score and an improvement in maximum and mean urinary flow rate. We analyzed spermatic fluid before and after treatment (6) and we found that there was an increase in total germinal cells count, improvement in motility and in morphology. Concentration of zinc, fructose and citric acid was higher after treatment (Zinc:9.5 mg% vs 5.5 mg%; Fructose: 64.5 mg% vs 58 mg%; Citric acid: 360 mg% vs 305 mg%). Prostate ultrasuonds allowed to appreciate a consistent reduction of prostate volume (21.9 cc vs 29.9 cc), probably due to resolution of oedema. Conclusion: In our experience laser therapy for chronic prostatitis can be an effective treatment in improving symptoms and modifying clinical and sonographyc parameters.
SEMICONDUCTOR LASER RAYS THERAPY FOR THE TREATMENT OF CHRONIC PROSTATITIS
Prof. Guido Strada, Dr med. Franco Gadda, Dr med. Paolo Dell'Orto, Dr med. Marilena Casu, Dr med. Andrea Baccalin Department of Urology, San Gerardo Hospital, Monza (Milan-Italy)
Introduction: Chronic prostatitis (ACP) hasn't a universally successful therapy yet. A lot of studies demonstrated that LASER therapy has an anti-inflammatory effect on tissues and can increase lymphatic and venous drainage reducing inflammatory swelling. For this reasons in the early 90s we proposed a new therapeutic system for ACP using semiconductor LASER rays consisting of a gallium-arsenide diode. At the beginning an endorectal probe was used; then we invented a particular endourethral probe for laser therapy. This is a brief abstract of what we achieved during these years.
Histological preliminary studies: Many authors studied biological effects of LASER on animal tissues (1). Before clinical practice LASER therapy was tested on a cancer cell line (SW 626) in order to evaluate if laser stimulation could increase mitosis cell rate (2) and therefore have a carcinogenic-like effect. We didn't observe any change in mitosis cell rate. Another study (3) was made on rabbits to test in vivo any immediate histopathological damages and temperature rising in rectal ampulla using transrectal probe. Temperature rising was about 2/10th of a degree centigrade. No histopathological alterations of rectal wall and the prostate were observed with particular care of signs of swellig, flogosis or fibrosis.
Materials and methods: The gallium-arsenide diode in use has a wave lenght of 904 nm and a frequency of 3000 Hz. The Laser beam reaches the prostate with a special optic probe. This is divided in two sections: one contains the laser generator, the other has five optic fibers and it is screwed onto the first creating a single body of reduced dimensions. It can be sterilized and it is atoxic. We experimented 2 different approaches to the prostate: the first was an endorectal approach and the second was an endourethral approach. At the beginning we used a "Laser Super Sonic" machine with endorectal probe according to Strada. The treatment schedule was 1 treatment every two days (treatment's time of 12 minutes,wave lenght 3000 Hz)) for a total of 12 applications. Transrectal laser therapy was not indicated in prostate larger than 4 cm because this is the maximum depth of the laser beam's efficacy. Then we experimented an urethral probe (Med 130 Lasotronic â Wave lenght 820 nm, power 30 mW) in order to reduce energy leakage and increase patient's tolerability. In this case patients underwent 1 treatment every 3 days for a total of 8 applications (treatment's time of 4 minutes). From 1990 to 1999 more than 200 patients underwent this kind of treatment. We pubblished results in previous studies (4-5).
Clinical results: More than 65% of the patients obtained a symptoms' relief even at 6 months after treatment. We observed a decrease in IPSS score and an improvement in maximum and mean urinary flow rate. We analyzed spermatic fluid before and after treatment (6) and we found that there was an increase in total germinal cells count, improvement in motility and in morphology. Concentration of zinc, fructose and citric acid was higher after treatment (Zinc:9.5 mg% vs 5.5 mg%; Fructose: 64.5 mg% vs 58 mg%; Citric acid: 360 mg% vs 305 mg%). Prostate ultrasuonds allowed to appreciate a consistent reduction of prostate volume (21.9 cc vs 29.9 cc), probably due to resolution of oedema. Conclusion: In our experience laser therapy for chronic prostatitis can be an effective treatment in improving symptoms and modifying clinical and sonographyc parameters.
ubraj- Posts : 2245
Join date : 2009-06-19
Re: Miracle Mineral Solution (MMS)
Hey JPD thx for this!
Looks interesting,but what is an urethral probe??
If I´ve understood right that kind of treatment cannot be done alone at home, thus I would have to find a doc who is performing this??Or am I understanding wrong??
thx.
Looks interesting,but what is an urethral probe??
If I´ve understood right that kind of treatment cannot be done alone at home, thus I would have to find a doc who is performing this??Or am I understanding wrong??
thx.
tao81- Posts : 169
Join date : 2008-10-21
Re: Miracle Mineral Solution (MMS)
It can be done at home.
About 1 1/2 years ago someone was going to try it to help alleviate finasteride side effects. I never heard if it was effective or not though.
Here's a device. http://cgi.ebay.com/COLD-LASER-THERAPY-LLLT-INFRARED-ACUPUNCTURE-620-880nm-/160421923591
Here's another study
http://www.cooperativemedicine.com/laser_library/Prostate%20-%20%20male%20genital.pdf
About 1 1/2 years ago someone was going to try it to help alleviate finasteride side effects. I never heard if it was effective or not though.
Here's a device. http://cgi.ebay.com/COLD-LASER-THERAPY-LLLT-INFRARED-ACUPUNCTURE-620-880nm-/160421923591
Here's another study
http://www.cooperativemedicine.com/laser_library/Prostate%20-%20%20male%20genital.pdf
ubraj- Posts : 2245
Join date : 2009-06-19
Re: Miracle Mineral Solution (MMS)
Cool jpd thx for that, too.
Ok those devices seem not to be too expensive but what i don´t understand how to applicate them right that they rech the prostate??
Some speak about radiation directly to the veins (Bloodiradiation??) Some do it rectal- absolutly no clue how to perform it right. Beside that i´m definitely interested and would try if knew how to use such a device right.
Ok those devices seem not to be too expensive but what i don´t understand how to applicate them right that they rech the prostate??
Some speak about radiation directly to the veins (Bloodiradiation??) Some do it rectal- absolutly no clue how to perform it right. Beside that i´m definitely interested and would try if knew how to use such a device right.
tao81- Posts : 169
Join date : 2008-10-21
MMS
goten574 wrote:Anyone heard of MMS? Anyone tried it for any illness? Did it work? Just curious as I never heard of this before.
Many positive reviews: miracle-mineral.lektura.si
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