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Post  diffuse Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:26 am

Hi guys, new to the site, looks interesting. Health + hair would = happy me. Bear with me because I haven't studied much of the science here before. As the name suggests, my main issue is generally poor hair density. It just seems to have thinned out without really having any of the massive sheds I hear others experience. It wouldn't surprise me if some sort of body imbalance was a contributing factor.

I'm just wondering how I should go with the regimen. I have the slight complication of having had a filling replaced recently, and another one due in a few weeks. Even after this, I'll still have a few metal ones in there (that are not needing replaced for dental reasons). Judging by what I've read it seems I may be better living with the remainder and trying to counteract any toxicity. I think I also read that it isn't a good idea to do the full regimen (Ecklonia Cava etc) whilst beginning this process. So should I just start off taking something like the link below alone?

http://www.iherb.com/Enzymatic-Therapy-Complete-Metal-Cleanse-30-UltraCaps/4926?at=0

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Post  CausticSymmetry Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:40 am

diffuse - I'm not sure where it was said about Ecklonia Cava--it is false.

Would not go a day without it.

On this site, you can search for root canals and cavities to get more info:

http://www.immortalhair.org/apps/blog/

Fluroide in toothpaste prevents remineralization. Instead of a relying on fillings, would leave the cavatation empty, brush with salt water (or baking soda or tooth soap) (no toothpates, because they contain glycerine) and eventually the teeth with remineralize.

You can add monosodium phosphate to help increase the repair process.

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Post  diffuse Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:13 am

Sorry I must have got the wrong end of the stick with the Ecklonia Cava - I did a lot of reading in one sitting. So presumably, this means I can safely proceed with some of the supplements listed in your regimen alongside the Humifulvate to help detox? Anything else I should be aware of? There is a lot of information to take in; some changes I can make almost instantly (e.g. avoid sugars and starches), but changing everything at once is impractical for me and it is probably better to take it step by step.

I read the dental articles with interest, although in the short-term I am mainly looking to mitigate the worst effects of my fillings on my health & hair. Luckily I have had no root canal treatment, which I gather makes things a bit less severe. Thanks for the information.

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Post  diffuse Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:16 am

'm afraid I'm going to have to bump this because I still have a dilemma about the 5/6 amalgam fillings that have been in my mouth for 12-15 years. Everything else is pretty clear - I've learned a lot and am raring to go on the improved diet and antioxidants etc.

Ok, the physiology page suggests that Candida overgrowth alone can prevent any regimen from working. So I planned to tackle that first. However, the website of Huggins Applied Healing (the suggested method to deal with amalgam fillings) contains the following:

Is 'Candida' related to my amalgams (silver fillings)?
Strangely enough, Candida is there to save your life. It changes methyl mercury to a less toxic (but still toxic) form. Bacteria change it back to methyl mercury, and the system goes back and forth. If Candida were eliminated while you have amalgam in your mouth, your health will not be as good as if it were there protecting you. Complex, but yes, there is a relationship.

So what do I do here? Obviously in an ideal world I would go back in time and not get metal fillings, but short of that I don't see a good solution. Keeping them in will seemingly interfere with any regimen, while removal is risky and probably costly (also I'm from the UK and not 100% sure we'll have a Huggins-trained dentist). Feel free to ask anything you need to help.

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Post  CausticSymmetry Fri Apr 09, 2010 12:21 pm

diffuse - Nice find there. Candida should be controlled rather than eliminated, so with the title "Candida overgrowth" is the apt term. The same applies with Helicobacter Pylori, just as long as an overgrowth doesn't exist, we should be fine.

Candida overgrowth occurs usually with excessive sugar, refined starches and alcohol, which are all bad for hair.

Aside from amalgams, clearing out other envirnomental forms of metal are typically easier when Candida overgrowth is normalized.

At any rate, it's quite difficult to kill off Candida entirely.

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Post  CausticSymmetry Fri Apr 09, 2010 12:23 pm

diffuse - Provided it's just amalgams, not a root canal, you can worry about amalgam extraction in the future.

The main thing about Candida is not to allow it to overgrow, which is usually a consequence of alcohol or excessive sugar and refined carbohydrates.

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Post  kijumn Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:47 pm

diffuse wrote:
So what do I do here? Obviously in an ideal world I would go back in time and not get metal fillings, but short of that I don't see a good solution. Keeping them in will seemingly interfere with any regimen, while removal is risky and probably costly (also I'm from the UK and not 100% sure we'll have a Huggins-trained dentist). Feel free to ask anything you need to help.

If you keep the amalgam fillings in, then I'd highly recommend selenomethionine. If taking a lot of selenium, I'd also make sure you take enough Iodine to keep your thyroid balanced.

"selenium and zinc are antagonists of mercury"

more good info = http://www.cqs.com/toxicmetals.htm
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Post  CausticSymmetry Sat Apr 10, 2010 2:59 am

jdp710 - Great link, thanks!

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Post  randle20 Sat Apr 10, 2010 7:12 am

Ever heard of Dental Herb?

http://behmnaturaldentistry.com/dental-herb-company%C2%AE-products/

Are any of these ingredients bad? vegetable glycerine?

Ingredients are calcium carbonate, deionized water, vegetable glycerine, titanium dioxide, sodium carrageenan, kaolin, gum cellulose, extracts of echinacea aungustofolia, echinacea purpurea, gotu kola, green tea, pure essential oils of peppermint, red thyme, cinnamon bark, eucalyptus globulus and lavender, plant saponins.
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Post  diffuse Sat Apr 10, 2010 1:02 pm

CS - Thanks, yes just amalgams, although I recently had one replaced with white filling before reading all this info. I think what I need right now is a damage limitation regimen. I've already made changes to my diet and supplements are on the way - IH6, probiotic, vitamin C, Ashwagandha, magnesium, iodine, taurine for the occasional bad meal. The metal fillings / removal are unfortunate but hopefully I can find a regimen that at least puts me in a stronger position than before. What I definitely don't want to do is make things worse.

jdp - That's interesting, I had already planned on taking iodine and was considering selenium (selenomethionine - any particular brand/dosage?) but never thought about zinc. I'm not vegetarian but around 7 years ago I stopped eating red meat, except occasionally. Would be easy enough to add a little back in, or some other source.

One dietary factor possibly worth mentioning - since childhood I've almost never eaten fish other than tuna and salmon, due to a seafood allergy (relatively mild I think; no official diagnosis). I've had a look around the net and think it is probably related to parvalbumin. I'd love to eat a greater variety of fish but I don't think there's much I can do.

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Post  diffuse Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:35 am

I've pretty much decided I want to have my amalgams removed, and think I have found some dentists I could trust with the work. The question is what materials are considered the safest replacements? One dentist I am looking at is known to prefer Admira/ormocer. Is that a reasonable choice (assuming I am biocompatible)?

Also - and maybe this is a stupid question - is there a chance I would be better not replacing them at all? In other words, trying to remineralize them naturally. Would be great if it worked, but painful if it didn't. Although I don't remember having severe toothache before any of them were put in (a long time ago).

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Post  CausticSymmetry Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:03 am

diffuse - I'm not 100% certain, but would try to avoid the fillings and try natural remineralization first.

Not sure about the material.

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Post  RisingFist Fri Jan 04, 2013 4:01 pm

CausticSymmetry wrote:diffuse - I'm not 100% certain, but would try to avoid the fillings and try natural remineralization first.

Not sure about the material.
Do you recommend trying remineralization before removing an amalgam or after? I've read that some people have had amalgams fall off by themselves when their teeth started healing. I wonder if I should try that approach first. Don't want a composite replacement if I can avoid it.

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Post  Zaphod Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:44 pm

RisingFist wrote:
Do you recommend trying remineralization before removing an amalgam or after? I've read that some people have had amalgams fall off by themselves when their teeth started healing. I wonder if I should try that approach first. Don't want a composite replacement if I can avoid it.

Do you have any source for this? Dont think it's possible to re mineralize tooth with amalgam still on it.

Imo you should first get rid of amalgam, and then follow the re mineralization protocol. I am searching for more educated answer here as well.

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Post  RisingFist Fri Jan 04, 2013 6:35 pm

Just forum posts on the net. Most notably after changing to a raw food diet. I am planning on doing a bio compatibility test in case I need to use a composite filling. I hope the dentist I meet won't mind if I choose to only remove amalgam. I wonder if its urgent right away to replace the filling or if its okay to wait a few months.

Anyways, I've been doing some research this week for dental health and still have some left. Trying to incorporate good diet, Supps and techniques like oil pulling to remineralize teeth.

Here is some interesting posts in the meantime to read.
http://www.therawpath.com/dental_health.html

http://www.life-enthusiast.com/index/Concerns/Dental_Health/Dental_Health_Letter_Government?osCsid=df066e3f77a97bc1eebe73fc5e43a2bc

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