Humifulvate For Heavy Metal Chelation

Hi -

I came across this forum while I was searching for Humifulvate Therapy for Heavy Metal Chelation.

I see that it was discussed here by opening topics on this issue - so I feel free to ask a question here on a topic that is unrelated to the purpose of this forum. If I make any mistake -- you can move my message to anywhere approprite.

Ok - there goes my question:

I seriously doubt there is a disorder in my blood (some symptoms of Autism - to be more precise) - that can be some sort of infection or heavy metal toxicity - or anything similar. So I am firstly considering getting rid of heavy metal. I took a metal test - and waiting the results. Whatever the results be, I am guessing that there can be some kind of Heavy Metal Toxicity, even if the results do not indicate this.

And I ordered 3 bottles of humifulvate, will start to use it in the next days.

Are there any scientific studies that Humifulvate is effective, can anyone give examples and point me to website resources? I am talking about getting rid of the heavy metals located in brain which are the toughest to do so - due to Blood-Brain-Barrier.

So if anyone used it -- what are your experiences? Can you share here your experiences - findings?

And importantly - what is the maximum proper dosing that is harmless and the length of using? Is it suitable for long term use when assuming that there can be a high amount of heavy metal toxicity? What are your suggestions?

http://www.humifulvate.ca/research_Humifulvate.html

I've been taking it on and off for a few months now. All signs seem to point to it working but I am also doing other complementary things. I started doing heavy metal detox for other brain related dysfunctions such as anxiety, memory et al. I also recommend getting enough natural minerals in your diet if you are chelating. Humifulvate is reported as not leeching this items but it is always good to make sure. Specifically for metal toxicity, supplementing with selenium is probably a good idea and Zinc and Magnesium are good as well. I take these along with Iodine to help in the heavy metal process and also to treat a possible low thyroid function. For brain repair I have been using doses of Niacinamide, phosphatidylserine, Omega-3s and other vitamins. Since starting all of this my symptoms have been greatly reduced. Recently I took a 4 week break from the humifulvate and a few minor symptoms returned so I am doing another rotation of it.

For humifulvate I take one pill before bed every night on an empty stomach with a glass of water. I think this is the best bet vs. higher doses as the detox is very mild and gentle. Most days I can not tell that I am chelating. Other agents or diets I have used in the past usually present themselves with a lot of detox symptoms/reactions. It will take some time and healing doing it this way but it is really safe and effective from my experience.

Hope this helps. Good luck!

Causticsymetry - Thanks for the link.

Hapyman, thank you for the good luck wishes, it is much appreciated.

I am saving your post so that I benefit from your experience.

I have some similar symptoms such as the ones you mention - and in my case there are some additions such as Autistic-like and Schizophrenia symptoms.

I have been using medical drugs and they relieved some of my symptoms to some extent. But since June I am deeply interested in Natural remedies - and they seemed to help me a lot. I have tried lots of things and found the best combination. Whenever you need me to share my findings with you - you can ask me and I will share them. As it is late here I will not post all of them in case you might not need to learn. You can PM me - and whenever I read, I can also contribute to your search in Mental Health.

OK. I will be starting Humifulvate within 2 days - may be today........ And I hope to get the best I can achieve.

Best wishes to you.

I know I'm bumping an old thread but: any reportable results?

I've just realized that I have some amalgam fillings (I was unaware about the mercury part) so I'm thinking about purchasing Dr. Laszlo Meszaros' Metal Shield or ToxGuard which contain Humifulvate.

I'm not even sure I HAVE any problems with heavy metals, I feel great most of the time. Could doing this hurt? Or have adverse affects to hair? The fillings are only a couple years old, so they aren't structurally compromised or anything to my knowledge.

Anything I should supplement along with the Humifulvate? Can I keep going with IH top6/toco-8, etc in conjunction?

xyion1 - Unfortunately, mercury always leeches out from the teeth, from the day they are placed until they are removed.

Humifulvate will not adversely affect the mercury in the fillings, because Humifulvate binds to mercury in the blood stream and in the cells.

CausticSymmetry wrote:xyion1 - Unfortunately, mercury always leeches out from the teeth, from the day they are placed until they are removed.

Humifulvate will not adversely affect the mercury in the fillings, because Humifulvate binds to mercury in the blood stream and in the cells.

CS - what do you recommend then? Should I go and take humifulvate for one or 2 months per year (spaced out) to chelate? Should I constantly be taking them? I don't think a dentist will take out a viable filling (or, insurance won't cover it anyway). At $10 for 30 caps its pretty expensive for the humifulvate product.

xyion1 - If you decide to eventually get these removed, then would recommend you consult this site for a proper dental referral. These dentists are trained by one of the most experienced dentists in amalgam removal who use special procedures. Maybe your insurance will take it.

http://www.hugginsappliedhealing.com/alliancedentist.php

If not, then using Humifulvate can at least cope with removing this from tissues.

CausticSymmetry wrote:xyion1 - If you decide to eventually get these removed, then would recommend you consult this site for a proper dental referral. These dentists are trained by one of the most experienced dentists in amalgam removal who use special procedures. Maybe your insurance will take it.

http://www.hugginsappliedhealing.com/alliancedentist.php

If not, then using Humifulvate can at least cope with removing this from tissues.

CS - Thanks for the link. I am actually headed in to the dentist in a week or so (for a cleaning) so I'll ask them how the fillings look. I didn't realize about the mercury in the fillings (2-3 years old now) until recently. No root canals or anything, thankfully.

I ordered 3 bottles of Humifulvate, I will take it for 1 month straight then stop for 2-3 months before the next bottle. It does say its not recommended for long-term use. If it works, then $30 a year to be heavy metal free is a small price to pay (until I actually get rid of these fillings).

xyion1 - Getting a "cleaning" is one of those unnecessary dental visits. Even worse is that the cleaning will invigorate more mercury to be released.

CS- do you mean that dental cleaning is harmful in any way? I thought it was the only way to remove the plaque and prevent teeth cavities along w a sensible diet
I personally have one every 3 months.

edony,

I don't believe I've ever had my teeth cleaned and I've never had a cavity. I credit that towards changing my toothbrush every week as well as other measures.

Yeap Jdp, i 've seen your recommendation in an older thread.But since having braces for the second time ,I find that plaque forms pretty easily and rapidly,it's so hard to properly clean my teath without visiting the dentist every couple of months.I have no cavities either though.
Maybe I should work harder on that low oxalate thing,mostly on a GFCF diet some months (w some cheating during holiday )
But still is the dental cleaning procedure hazardous?

edony - Well there's fluoride, that isn't needed. Dental cleaning is unnecessary. Just as long as the pH doesn't get too low (3.5) then you can be free of cavities. Water, salt is usually all that's needed. For some, maybe dental tape is helpful if the teeth are very close together.

I often wash my mouth out with xylitol.

CS- so you mix some salt in water and rinse out after food?
Would baking soda in water work equally effective?

edony - Baking soda has this effect also. You can could use either or both. Salt in my opinion is a little easier to use and more accessible.

CausticSymmetry wrote:edony - Well there's fluoride, that isn't needed. Dental cleaning is unnecessary. Just as long as the pH doesn't get too low (3.5) then you can be free of cavities. Water, salt is usually all that's needed. For some, maybe dental tape is helpful if the teeth are very close together.

I often wash my mouth out with xylitol.

Hey CS,

Out of curiosity, how do you get the food that gets stuck between the teeth out if you don't brush or floss? I can understand how you can keep plaque down other ways, but I personally get food stuck in between the teeth that becomes annoying, and immediately starts to decay and cause halitosis. Before I had braces and moved my teeth around, they were slightly crowded and there was little to no space in between. Since an extraction and braces, there is more room. Do you use a tongue scraper, or brush the tongue?

Paradox - If teeth are close together and food gets stuck, waxed dental tape works well.

Personally, food rarely gets stuck in my teeth and when it happens I always aim to remove it. I stay away from most food that tends to get stuck in my teeth, which are typically breads, chips, and so forth.

halitosis can be caused from bacteria in the gut, from bad food, smoking and possibly from other sources.

Xylitol works pretty well for me when I need a "mouthwash."

hapyman wrote:I've been taking it on and off for a few months now. All signs seem to point to it working but I am also doing other complementary things. I started doing heavy metal detox for other brain related dysfunctions such as anxiety, memory et al. I also recommend getting enough natural minerals in your diet if you are chelating. Humifulvate is reported as not leeching this items but it is always good to make sure. Specifically for metal toxicity, supplementing with selenium is probably a good idea and Zinc and Magnesium are good as well. I take these along with Iodine to help in the heavy metal process and also to treat a possible low thyroid function. For brain repair I have been using doses of Niacinamide, phosphatidylserine, Omega-3s and other vitamins. Since starting all of this my symptoms have been greatly reduced. Recently I took a 4 week break from the humifulvate and a few minor symptoms returned so I am doing another rotation of it.

For humifulvate I take one pill before bed every night on an empty stomach with a glass of water. I think this is the best bet vs. higher doses as the detox is very mild and gentle. Most days I can not tell that I am chelating. Other agents or diets I have used in the past usually present themselves with a lot of detox symptoms/reactions. It will take some time and healing doing it this way but it is really safe and effective from my experience.

Hope this helps. Good luck!

Hapyman,

Would you mind taking a glance at the minerals in my multi and telling me if you think it is enough while on humifulvate? I also take large amounts of magnesium...

Serving Size 2 Tablets
Servings Per Container 60
Amount Per Serving %DV
Beta-Carotene (as pro-Vitamin A 6 mg) 10,000 IU 200%
Vitamin C (from Calcium Ascorbate) 350 mg 580%
Vitamin D (as Ergocalciferol) 400 IU 100%
Vitamin E (from d-alpha Tocopheryl Succinate) 200 IU 670%
Vitamin K (as Phytonadione) 50 mcg 60%
Thiamine (Vit. B-1) (from Thiamine HCI) 25 mg 1670%
Riboflavin (Vitamin B-2) 25 mg 1470%
Niacin (Vitamin B-3)(from Niacinamide and Inositol Hexanicotinate) 50 mg 250%
Vitamin B-6 (from Pyridoxine HCI and Pyridoxal-5 Phosphate (P-5-P) 25 mg 1250%
Folate (as Folic Acid) 800 mcg 200%
Vitamin B-12 (as Methylcobalamin) 250 mcg 4170%
Biotin 300 mcg 100%
Pantothenic Acid (Vitamin B-5) (from Calcium d-Pantothenate) 100 mg 1000%
Calcium (from Calcium Carbonate and Calcium Ascorbate) 350 mg 35%
Iodine (from Kelp) 225 mcg 150%
Magnesium (from Magnesium Oxide, Magnesium Citrate and ZMA) 100 mg 25%
Zinc (from ZinMax (Zinc Picolinate) and ZMA) 30 mg 200%
Selenium (from L-Selenomethionine) 200 mcg 290%
Copper (from Copper AAC*) 500 mcg 25%
Manganese (from Manganese AAC*) 3 mg 150%
Chromium (from Chromium Chelavite) 200 mcg 170%
Molybdenum (from Molybdenum AAC*) 50 mcg 70%
Potassium (from Potassium Chloride) 50 mg 1%
Saw Palmetto Extract (Berries) (Serenoa repens(min. 45% Fatty Acids) 160 mg †
Panax Ginseng Extract (Roots) (min. 5% Ginsenosides) 100 mg †
ZMA 55 mg †
Alpha Lipoic Acid 50 mg †
Choline (from Choline Bitartrate) 50 mg †

"Humifulvate will not adversely affect the mercury in the fillings, because Humifulvate binds to mercury in the blood stream and in the cells." -CS

I was wondering if metal cleansing products such as Waiora Liquid Zeolite or Humifulvate could cause more harm than good in a person with root canals. Because isn't a root canal much deeper into the gum 'cells' than an amalgam filling? I just want to make sure it would be safe to cleanse.

Serge - I'm concerned about the Zeolites, because they contain aluminum.

The problem with root canals goes much deeper than just an amalgam filling, because in the case of root canals, it is producing a constant stream of very potent bacteria. Removing the metal is not enough for the root canal, it has to be removed using a safe dentist.

hi CS,
does Humifulvate help minimize metal toxicity damage in the meantime with a titanium dental post?

thanks!

RobHealthMan - Probably not. The reason is that there's no metal to chelate per se, instead what is happening is that the titanium (not being inert) is creating an autoimmune reaction in the body, which develops certain anaerobic bacteria. Bone or teeth implants cause autoimmune reactions that are definite. The only thing that can be done is to have them removed.

CausticSymmetry wrote:RobHealthMan - Probably not. The reason is that there's no metal to chelate per se, instead what is happening is that the titanium (not being inert) is creating an autoimmune reaction in the body, which develops certain anaerobic bacteria. Bone or teeth implants cause autoimmune reactions that are definite. The only thing that can be done is to have them removed.

Thanks CS.
I want to understand this more...the autoimmune reaction will thereby cause some kind of deficiency somewhere in my body (ie. hormonal imbalance, liver, pituitary..etc) which might thereby cause problems within the body that ultimately can cause hair loss?

thanks again!

i just do not know what to do if i remove the titanium post and can not go ceramic. i have no tooth there

RobHealthMan - If you are able to find the right dentist, they can perform blood chemistry and find an appropriate material that is compatible with your body, and hopefully offer something that is safe.