Ideal Diet for Hair loss

In your opinion what is the ideal diet to curb or minimize hair loss?

If hairloss-research.org is any indication, then Korean food, followed by Japanese food should be the best to curb hairloss. The Koreans and Japanese more or less eat the same food (probably because the two countries are right next to each other). They both eat fermented soy (vitamin K2 MK-7, lysine, etc.), perilla leaves (TNF-a down regulator), green tea (EGCG), sea vegetables (iodine, tin, etc.), rice (the most hypoallergenic grain), seafood (dha, epa, etc.) , sesame seed oil (tocotrienols), etc. Milk and dairy are traditionally not a part of their diets. Both consume plenty of taurine. They've had caffeine free 'energy drink' beverages with the main ingredients being taurine and vitamin b1 for decades. They come in these little glass bottles (you might have seen them at Asian markets) and they're consumed like they're liquid vitamins.

The main difference between the two cuisines is in food combining. There's a bit more advantage to Korean food though. First, Koreans eat a lot more fermented foods than the Japanese. They have kimchi everyday with virtually every meal. Second, they intake a lot more capsaicin from their red chili pepper powder. Third, at least one meal of the day will consist of some kind of hearty stew with meat, meat and bones, fish with bones, etc. which is very mineral rich. Fourth, they probably consume more krill as krill and/or shrimp is an ingredient in kimchi. Fifth, they consume more 'root food' - ginseng. Sixth, the number one on-the-go breakfast food in South Korea is tomato which is a rich source of dht-inhibiting lycopene.

If I had to choose one cuisine, it would be Japanese.

Hah, excellent.

I will be in Japan for two weeks soon and I was worried about diet/regime whilst over there.

I have been quite low carb as of late...was worried about rice/noodles...etc, but if its moderately hair friendly, then ok.

You mean my macdonalds diet is bad for hair? I was thinking it might have something to do with my ....

IN terms of carbs, proteins, and fats, what should one ideally aim for (high carbs, low carbs, high fat, low fat, high protein, low protein).

Which of these has been found to be most suited to help with hairloss

Also, I am road race cyclist, so I ride the bike about 180 miles a week, and do weight lifting.
Can this in any way exasperate my hairloss.

Is there any way to minimize it such as the sequence in which I do this exercise (bike followed by weights or weights followed by bike).

Thank You

hopeful wrote:IN terms of carbs, proteins, and fats, what should one ideally aim for (high carbs, low carbs, high fat, low fat, high protein, low protein).

Which of these has been found to be most suited to help with hairloss

I think this depends on your metabolic type. I am a mixed type according to these quizzes:

http://docs.google.com/gview?a=v&q=cache:zkBgIva71FkJ:www.gaiahealthcare.com/documents/MetabolicTypeQuiz_000.pdf+metabolic+type+quiz&hl=en&gl=ca

http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache%3AtG_uCd2DjNwJ%3Awww.isismedica.com%2Fpdf%2FMetabolic_Typing_Quiz.pdf+metabolic+type+quiz&hl=en&gl=ca

http://www.proprofs.com/quiz-school/story.php?title=metabolic-typing-test_1

What specific foods have been found to contribute to hair loss in terms of inflammation etc.

hopeful wrote:What specific foods have been found to contribute to hair loss in terms of inflammation etc.

Just off the top of my balding head:

refined vegetable oils
sugar
refined grains
dairy
fried foods

thank you jksl

Good diet would be
high in grains vegetables, not too many fruits be careful with those, some are too high in sugar, even though natural

avoid red meat, eat chicken and fish, and try to keep the
oils high in omega 3, and avoid animal fat oils
try to keep animal protein to less than 30 gms per day, this is not hard to do on an asian diet but is very difficult on a typical american western diet

avoid excess sodium processed meats soy sauce etc etc this can cause huge shedding

avoid white flour products if possible, and white rice, try to eat whole grain bread whole grain rice, etc

would be great if we could eat a diet like this wouldnt it
be nice to have a prvt chef

also my warning about animal protein would include dairy

eating too much meat or dairy, is not good
try to eat like 80 percent veggies 20 percent meat, whatever the breakdown is, you know more of the asian type diet

as opposed to the macdonalds 90 percent meat, 10 percent white flour buns, and coke diet

Meat is not the culprit. Reversed fatty acid balance, drugs, pesticides, hydrogenated oils, etc, are the real problem.
Grains, even worse, refined grains, are probably the most damaging "food" for us these days.


For me it is: Paleo Diet + Metabolic Typing. Period.

BTW, Many evidence has been posted regarding the bad influence of Wheat and other grains on health (and hair). So even if it's whole wheat, it's not good.

Sodium? you mention that because of the sodium *myth*? or did you mean nitrites and nitrosamines?

Ya I doubt meat is the bad thing, just gotta be careful with the amount of iron and omega-6 you're getting from red meat, especially grain-fed, so using Krill Oil to get the omega6/omega3 balance back to normal. I'm not sure hot to flush iron out?

My diet now consists mostly of:
Vegetables
Chicken
Fish
Meat
Fruit
Brown Rice
Buckwheat
Lentils
Eggs, lots of em
Nuts(no peanuts)
Gluten-Free Bread
lots of coconut oil, some Olive oil
Plenty of Spice

I dunno if it's "ideal" and I'm definitely not perfect with it everyday, but in general the lack of gluten products and processed foods is good, if I could get all that stuff organic/grass-fed/wild this would probably be an extremely solid diet. Now I just gotta work on drinking less on the weekend

BaldingYouth wrote:
lots of coconut oil, some Olive oil

I, too, consume coconut oil (extra virgin variety). But, i don't think it's necessary to consume "lots" of it. I guess, it depends on what you mean by lots.

Anyway, coconut oil is strongly inflammatory according to many sources like this one: http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/fats-and-oils/508/2

Although the vitamin E content should quell some of that inflammation.

In any case, i just go for a teaspoon or less of the stuff with my food to get some of the fat-soluble vitamins into my system. I wouldn't consume tablespoons and tablespoons of the stuff like some people i know. That's completely unnecessary IMO. BTW, EVCO is the only oil i use now for cooking, but again, i only use a little bit of it.

waitaminute, is there vitamin E in coconut oil? Or am i thinking of another oil?

I wouldn't say I consume excess amounts, but I use about a tablespoon to cook my eggs in the morning and if I cook something that requires oil its gonna be coconut oil. By lots what I meant was that it's pretty much the only oil I use, with the expection of some olive oil in my salads. I definitely don't just eat it by itself.

I consume a tremendous amount of red meat. A lot of it being grain-fed since it's usually the only choice when eating out. Besides the krill oil to account for the N-6/N-3 fatty acid imbalance, stabilized R-Lipoic acid acts as an iron chelator.

Redox Rep. 2005;10(1):52-60.
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Dietary supplementation with (R)-alpha-lipoic acid reverses the age-related accumulation of iron and depletion of antioxidants in the rat cerebral cortex.

Suh JH, Moreau R, Heath SH, Hagen TM.

Department Biochemistry and Biophysics, Linus Pauling Institute, Oregon State University, Corvallis, Oregon 97331, USA.

Accumulation of divalent metal ions (e.g. iron and copper) has been proposed to contribute to heightened oxidative stress evident in aging and neurodegenerative disorders. To understand the extent of iron accumulation and its effect on antioxidant status, we monitored iron content in the cerebral cortex of F344 rats by inductively coupled plasma atomic emission spectrometry (ICP-AES) and found that the cerebral iron levels in 24-28-month-old rats were increased by 80% (p<0.01) relative to 3-month-old rats. Iron accumulation correlated with a decline in glutathione (GSH) and the GSH/GSSG ratio, indicating that iron accumulation altered antioxidant capacity and thiol redox state in aged animals. Because (R)-alpha-Lipoic acid (LA) is a potent chelator of divalent metal ions in vitro and also regenerates other antioxidants, we monitored whether feeding LA (0.2% [w/w]; 2 weeks) could lower cortical iron and improve antioxidant status. Results show that cerebral iron levels in old LA-fed animals were lower when compared to controls and were similar to levels seen in young rats. Antioxidant status and thiol redox state also improved markedly in old LA-fed rats versus controls. These results thus show that LA supplementation may be a means to modulate the age-related accumulation of cortical iron content, thereby lowering oxidative stress associated with aging.

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What is your view on "coconut oil being inflammatory" ? That contradicts what we used to believe 'till now...
I usually gulp down whole TBS of the stuff...

That sites classifies it that way because it contains omega-6, and nearly 0 Omega-3, that's why.

Of course we know it provides many benefits, including antiandrogenic properties, antifungal, etc.

Hooray! that was my post #100

edony - Maybe there was a typo somewhere, I would never say that intentionally. Can you link where that was mentioned?

CausticSymmetry wrote:edony - Maybe there was a typo somewhere, I would never say that intentionally. Can you link where that was mentioned?

you never said it. but, there are sites that mention it. Like these ones:

http://www.natmedtalk.com/general-discussion/1730-food-inflammatory-index.html

http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/fats-and-oils/508/2

I agree with this article: http://www.dietriffic.com/2007/10/05/coconut-oil-good-bad-or-ugly/

"As with all foods, moderation is the key; personally I don’t believe coconut oil is bad per se, however I also don’t believe that it’s the miracle food it has been made out to be either!"

Taking tablespoons of the stuff is completely unnecessary, especially if one doesn't know their own metabolic type.