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Post  shaftless Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:36 am

There's a new study from the UK that getting vaccinated for shingles...thought to be caused by the herpes zoster virus...can stave off dementia in later years. Even if you don't believe in viruses the vaccine is probably an old school type with no mRNA in them that reprograms your cells like the current covid ones do. So you shouldn't get any of the mystery illnesses that came out with the covid ones.

Something to think about...

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/health/medical/colby-cosh-a-huge-breakthrough-in-dementia-prevention-or-a-glitch-in-the-matrix/ar-AA1c6weF?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=23fc1371b51b499291d040fb6b4027fb&ei=24

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Post  Atlas Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:31 am

The vaccination business is a complete scam!
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Post  TheOne Mon Jun 05, 2023 6:21 am

I know someone, she told me her friend got the shingles vaccine last year, and caused crippling side effects.
Had to do 3 months of therapy and will not be the same for the rest of her life.
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Post  ManusCeles Tue Jun 06, 2023 4:00 am

I think the general rule for anyone who is health-conscious should be the avoidance of the unnecessary synthetic agents, be it drugs, creams, perfumes, household chemicals, vaccines, etc.

Nobody really cannot predict the individual response that oftentimes happens unexpectedly and can be devastating. The response can be delayed by years or occur in a cumulative fashion. There is a cause for anything, any health aiments or conditions, but people (including medical practitioners) are too nearsighted to connect the dots. They have their "papers" and "evidence", they all see their "nails", while remaining completely blind to the bigger picture.

Deception by pharmakeia is a real thing.

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Post  MikeGore Tue Jun 06, 2023 12:09 pm

shaftless wrote:There's a new study from the UK that getting vaccinated for shingles...thought to be caused by the herpes zoster virus...can stave off dementia in later years. Even if you don't believe in viruses the vaccine is probably an old school type with no mRNA in them that reprograms your cells like the current covid ones do. So you shouldn't get any of the mystery illnesses that came out with the covid ones.

Something to think about...

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/health/medical/colby-cosh-a-huge-breakthrough-in-dementia-prevention-or-a-glitch-in-the-matrix/ar-AA1c6weF?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=23fc1371b51b499291d040fb6b4027fb&ei=24

My God, we don't need no vaccination!

No offense brother, but I'm going to speak in a way that you might not comprehend and is from occultism and esotericism.

In the universe there is a false intellectual, an evil force, that takes over people's minds and controls people's cognition much like puppets. Masses are ruled by this force, including the so-called "scientists". It takes a special type of person, scientist or otherwise to not be a puppet.

So for the love God, people, stop being puppets of this evil force.


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Post  shaftless Wed Jun 07, 2023 2:29 am

But what about the data from the study? scratch

We are all puppets if we make a decision to follow the advice of others...being scientific, religious, psychological or otherwise. Since we cannot confirm truth of complicated matters on our own we have to rely on others that are "more in the know" to tell us how it is. The only way to escape this is to "run away from it all" and live in a log cabin out in the wilderness. Then you would truly be free from outside influences.

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Post  CausticSymmetry Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:25 am

shaftless wrote:But what about the data from the study? scratch

We are all puppets if we make a decision to follow the advice of others...being scientific, religious, psychological or otherwise. Since we cannot confirm truth of complicated matters on our own we have to rely on others that are "more in the know" to tell us how it is. The only way to escape this is to "run away from it all" and live in a log cabin out in the wilderness. Then you would truly be free from outside influences.

I read the study: and no surprise. It's complete speculation. Most of these types of media pieces just elicit attention,
but rarely has any real merit.

On the similar note. Before the times of Flexner report, circa 1910, it was the beginning of the Rockefeller medical system, or the death care beginning.

"Advances" in medicine outside of surgery usually lead to more decline in health.


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Post  shaftless Wed Jun 07, 2023 12:24 pm

True. Just speculation and observation. So many things are based on that. It's kinda like that sherlock holmes phrase..."when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth". So it's "cause and effect in a test tube" versus "well it sure looks that way". I prefer cause and effect physical evidence. But you can't just throw observation out the window either. Especially when that observation was done with extreme care and detail.

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Post  CausticSymmetry Wed Jun 07, 2023 1:43 pm

shaftless wrote:True. Just speculation and observation. So many things are based on that. It's kinda like that sherlock holmes phrase..."when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth". So it's "cause and effect in a test tube" versus "well it sure looks that way". I prefer cause and effect physical evidence. But you can't just throw observation out the window either. Especially when that observation was done with extreme care and detail.

For the most part a lot of people, and the media take a lot of consideration into epidemiology. So it sounds good: "Disease Surveillance: Epidemiologists collect and analyze data on disease occurrence and patterns to monitor trends, detect outbreaks, and assess the impact of interventions."

However, this causes huge leaps in assumptions. Here's a few very well known ones that 20 years ago people really seemed to believe and many still do to this day.

Cholesterol myth
Saturated fat myth
Hair loss is genetic myth (too many still believe this nonsense)
Salt causes high blood pressure myth (too many still fall for this one)
Calories cause weight gain myth

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Post  CF Sun Jun 18, 2023 12:51 pm

shaftless wrote:There's a new study from the UK that getting vaccinated for shingles...thought to be caused by the herpes zoster virus...can stave off dementia in later years. Even if you don't believe in viruses the vaccine is probably an old school type with no mRNA in them that reprograms your cells like the current covid ones do. So you shouldn't get any of the mystery illnesses that came out with the covid ones.

Something to think about...

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/health/medical/colby-cosh-a-huge-breakthrough-in-dementia-prevention-or-a-glitch-in-the-matrix/ar-AA1c6weF?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=23fc1371b51b499291d040fb6b4027fb&ei=24

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Post  shaftless Sun Jun 18, 2023 1:53 pm

LOL!!! Fine...don't get your shingles vaccine. But don't say I didn't warn you!

You do realize that anything using observation instead of real science...like blaming the recent increase in unexpected deaths on the covid vaccines...is just as bad, don't you? lol

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Post  CausticSymmetry Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:17 pm

shaftless wrote:LOL!!! Fine...don't get your shingles vaccine. But don't say I didn't warn you!

You do realize that anything using observation instead of real science...like blaming the recent increase in unexpected deaths on the covid vaccines...is just as bad, don't you? lol

I've been looking into various types of Quackcines since the early 2000's.

There is rich information available if one knows where to look.

Vaccines of all kinds have done zero for health of any kind and in any form.

There were some studies that proved strongly that they cause harm. Then there is
Pediatrician Paul Thomas Has 15,000 Patients. The overwhelming conclusion, the fewer vaccines his patients had
the healthier they were.

A big reason for why many "experts" claims they are safe, is because virtually every study (except for some that have not been published), are random control trials without an inert placebo. In other words, these are pitted against another vaccine or adjuvant (toxic metals in vaccines).

These 'experts' assume they are properly done...they are not. If they used a proper double-blind randomized placebo control trial, it would be damning evidence.

SIDS (Sudden Infant Death Syndrome), did not exist in the earlier half of the 20th Century. As for SADS (Sudden Adult Death Syndrome), we know the 'baffling' reason for these deaths....However, the childhood immunization programs
have only created elevated levels of chronic diseases. It's more common to have a chronic disease in children than it was prior to when there was just 3 or 4 vaccines given.

If we go back to 2020, the death rates were less than average. It was only after 2021, when the jabs came out--a 40% increase in insurance claims.

Vaccination is intentional neurological trauma, and undermines potential.
The ingredients would be harmful if swallowed, however, certain and absolute levels of irrevocable damage when injected.

Aside from the gender-bender embryonic diploid cells, which cause potential XX/XY confusion. The tween-80 penetrates the blood-brain-barrier, and allows highly toxic aluminium hydroxide to bio-accumulate into the brain tissue. Not to mention all the cross-linking formaldehyde like substances.  

Often, the symptoms of fever are stimulated by this toxic set of injections. Once that happens, the poor advice to take Tylenol/Acetaminophen/paracetamol to lower the fever (criminal malpractice in my opinion), causes a diminished liver protection, allowing more of a full force of poison into the body.

Even the Vitamin K shot is potentially lethal and dangerous and causes frequent cases of jaundice.

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Post  shaftless Sun Jun 18, 2023 3:12 pm

Here's an observation made by thehill.com

"But the nation's population is growing older with more people living to 100 than in decades past. There were 89,739 centenarians living in the United States in 2021, nearly twice as many as there were 20 years ago, according to data from the Population Division of the United Nations.Feb 7, 2023"


There could be lots of reasons for this like better lifestyle choices etc. But I'm sure a lot of these old fogies were vaccinated in their childhood and probably in their later years as well. And you'd think that they would have come across more chemical toxins during their lifetime too from ever-increasing processed foods and pollution. Yet people are living longer today than ever before.

Mind you, maladies like autism seem to be steadily increasing too. Can we be absolutely sure what is behind all these trends? Whether good or bad? Science is only good for small samples. You can't do a country-wide experiment covering many years in a lab. That's why we have to trust observations to a degree...but not 100%

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Post  Atlas Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:04 pm

Maybe you have more centenarians. But in general the people get sicker and sicker. See cancer, diabetes, obesity, autoimmune disorders and psychological issues etc.. The trend is pretty clear and supported by data.
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Post  shaftless Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:37 am

You're probably right about sicker and sicker people in general. But is there data that breaks it down into age groups? Like people aged 40 - 60 were more healthier 20 yrs ago compared to now? The longer you live the more chances you will develop age-related illnesses too. It's a complex study that has to take in all kinds of variables.

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Post  Atlas Mon Jun 19, 2023 2:50 am

Yes, there is a body of research that shows that the younger generations will suffer more from cancer, diabetes and other alignments than the older generations. As someone who sees patients on a regular basis (for biomechanical issues) I definitely see the trend. It is massive.
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Post  CausticSymmetry Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:01 am

Living longer today is a myth by the medical cartel.

Sure, there were some medical conditions that were rescued by some modern procedures, however go to any of these elderly homes, most of them are in a drugged state.



People of this time didn't have much accumulation of processed seed oils and their minds in were intact.

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Post  Atlas Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:04 am

Besides allopathic medicine the official dietary recommendations will speed up the process of deterioration.
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Post  CausticSymmetry Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:24 am

Might as well point out that much like many headlines for "studies" like this, it is bereft of the scientific method.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-01824-1

There are significant limitations and caveats that need to be considered before drawing any strong conclusions.

This is merely observational and correlational, meaning that it cannot establish causation or rule out other confounding factors that might explain the association.

The study relies on electronic health records, which may have errors or missing data that could affect the accuracy and validity of the results.

It does not account for the potential effects of other lifestyle factors that the participants may have received, which could also influence their dementia.

The study does not explain the biological mechanism by which shingles vaccination could prevent dementia, nor does it provide any direct evidence of infection or inflammation in the brains of the participants.

In other words, sales of ice cream are also correlated with sunny days at the beach, but does not prove causation.

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Post  shaftless Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:13 am

A lot of people are making fun of kids these days glued to their cellphones 24/7 and not getting enuff exercise outdoors. People made fun of kids forever playing video games decades ago too. New technology seems to be a big factor...but how do you stop that?

There was a worry that kids were getting fatter, probably from spending too much time with this new technology and snacking too much on junkfood, and they were coming down with a lot of "adult diseases" like heart problems and diabetes. Yet today, I don't see a lot of fat kids. They are actually fairly normal or even skinny looking.

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