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Post  hairmaniac Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:01 am

I've been talking from 5 to 15 different supplements for more than 7 years, and I'm wondering, could that harm my liver or anything else in my body in the long run? (I'm always taking the recommended dose for each supplement)

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Post  CausticSymmetry Sun Jun 13, 2021 3:02 am

hairmaniac wrote:I've been talking from 5 to 15 different supplements for more than 7 years, and I'm wondering, could that harm my liver or anything else in my body in the long run? (I'm always taking the recommended dose for each supplement)

Usually no. There are some exceptions.

Never take iron---ever.

Probably since 2004, I've taken a consistently high number - Many of these well known for liver protection.
It would be scary to think what my state would be without them.

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Post  imprisoned-radical Mon Jun 14, 2021 7:05 am

hairmaniac wrote:I've been talking from 5 to 15 different supplements for more than 7 years, and I'm wondering, could that harm my liver or anything else in my body in the long run? (I'm always taking the recommended dose for each supplement)

Also need to consider whether the supplement is fat soluble or water soluble. For example, Vitamin A is fat soluble and can cause toxicity because it accumulates in your tissues.

Water soluble vitamins (B and C) are probably not likely to cause problems.


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Post  Nuada Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:47 pm

imprisoned-radical wrote:
hairmaniac wrote:I've been talking from 5 to 15 different supplements for more than 7 years, and I'm wondering, could that harm my liver or anything else in my body in the long run? (I'm always taking the recommended dose for each supplement)

Also need to consider whether the supplement is fat soluble or water soluble. For example, Vitamin A is fat soluble and can cause toxicity because it accumulates in your tissues.

Water soluble vitamins (B and C) are probably not likely to cause problems.


Is there a period where I have to take Vit A on and off ? Like 3 months on and 3 months off or something like that ?

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Post  CausticSymmetry Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:08 am

The concern over Vitamin A is incredibly overblown. I take it everyday (in the form of cod liver oil).

In experiments, in order to reach toxicity, it requires hundreds of thousands of IU's over a long period.

When taking typical amounts such as 10,000 to 25,000 IU, it's impossible to get toxic.


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Post  asingh97 Fri Jun 25, 2021 4:13 pm

CS, what about taking too much Vitamin D in supplement form? Can there be any risks to that? What's the maximum you would recommend?

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Post  CausticSymmetry Fri Jun 25, 2021 5:45 pm

asingh97 wrote:CS, what about taking too much Vitamin D in supplement form? Can there be any risks to that? What's the maximum you would recommend?

Vitamin D3, but for the most part, lots of people can do well on 5,000 IU.

Ideally some vitamin K2 and Vitamin A is a good complement to Vitamin D.

This site has some decent info:

https://www.ms-uk.org/sites/default/files/choices_vitd.pdf

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Post  Balthier Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:57 pm

What about green tea extract, a few videos seem to possibly point to it causing liver damage?

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Post  CausticSymmetry Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:00 am

Balthier wrote:What about green tea extract, a few videos seem to possibly point to it causing liver damage?

If you can send the sources they provide. Over the last two decades, I've examined most of the claims (hit pieces) on certain supplements that poise a threat to the death cartel (medical cartel). Consider for a moment that most of their OTC drugs kill well over a hundred thousand people per year.

However, when something like a natural herb gets caught up into something, headlines and hit pieces are shown. And in most cases, someone took them in conjunction with real toxins.

on that note: I usually post these when they come out:

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Orthomolecular Medicine News Service, December 20, 2021

NO DEATHS FROM VITAMINS
Safety Confirmed by America's Largest Database

by Andrew W. Saul, Editor

OMNS (Dec. 20, 2021) The 38th annual report from the American Association of Poison Control Centers shows zero deaths from vitamins. Supporting data is in Table 22B, p 1476-1478, at the very end of the report published in Clinical Toxicology. [1] It is interesting that it is so quietly placed way back there where nary a news reporter is likely to see it. The AAPCC reports zero deaths from multiple vitamins. And, there were no deaths whatsoever from vitamin A, niacin, pyridoxine (B-6) any other B-vitamin. There were no deaths from vitamin C, vitamin D, vitamin E, or from any vitamin at all.

On page 1477 there is an allegation of a single death attributed to an unspecified, unknown "Miscellaneous Vitamin." The obvious uncertainly of such a listing diminishes any claim of validity.

There were no fatalities from amino acids, creatine, blue-green algae, glucosamine, or chondroitin. There were no deaths from any homeopathic remedy, Asian medicine, Hispanic medicine, or Ayurvedic medicine. None.

Zero deaths from vitamins. Want to bet this will never be on the evening news? Well, have you seen it there? And why not? After all, over half of the U.S. population takes daily nutritional supplements. A Harris Poll showed that for American adults, the number is 86%. [2] But let's just use the low number. Should each of those people tale only one single tablet daily, that still makes close to 170,000,000 individual doses per day, for a total of well over 60 billion doses annually. Since many persons take far more than just one single vitamin tablet, actual consumption is considerably higher, and the safety of vitamin supplements is all the more remarkable.

Throughout the entire year, coast to coast across the entire USA, there was not one single death from a vitamin. If vitamin supplements are allegedly so "dangerous," as the FDA, the news media, and even some physicians still claim, then where are the bodies?

(Andrew W. Saul is Editor-in-Chief of the Orthomolecular Medicine News Service, now in its 18th year of free publication. He is also a member of the Japanese College of Intravenous Therapy; the Orthomolecular Medicine Hall of Fame; and is author or coauthor of twelve books. He has no financial connection whatsoever to the supplement or health products industry.)


References:
1. Gummin DD, Mowry JB, Beuhler MC et al. 2020 Annual Report of the American Association of Poison Control Centers' National Poison Data System (NPDS): 38th Annual Report. Clinical Toxicology 2021, 59:12. https://doi.org/10.1080/15563650.2021.1989785 or https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/15563650.2021.1989785

2. https://osteopathic.org/2019/01/16/poll-finds-86-of-americans-take-vitamins-or-supplements-yet-only-21-have-a-confirmed-nutritional-deficiency/


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Post  Balthier Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:53 pm

Yeah no studies cited just a few supposed cases at best. Studies I have found seem to be the opposite that green tea drinking/extract improves fatty liver diseases.

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