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Is this the sebum myth?
Any truth in this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ80u2RoX7o&feature=related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ80u2RoX7o&feature=related
goten574- Posts : 489
Join date : 2009-08-03
Location : UK
Re: Is this the sebum myth?
goten574 - Sebum contains DHT, it's also stimulated by diet. Instead of dealing with topicals to wipe away the sebum, the real solution is what is done internally. However, for those with seborrheic dermatitis, where there is a large outpouring of sebum, what typically accompanies sebacious gland hyperplasia, then a topical shampoo I have used in the past will work to eliminate an over production of sebum.
This is composed of lithium orotate or lithium chloride. If lithium orotate is used, it is a good idea to incorporate DMSO. If lithium cloride is used, then it can just be added to a natural shampoo that does not have any SLS.
http://www.immortalhair.org/topicals.htm
This is composed of lithium orotate or lithium chloride. If lithium orotate is used, it is a good idea to incorporate DMSO. If lithium cloride is used, then it can just be added to a natural shampoo that does not have any SLS.
http://www.immortalhair.org/topicals.htm
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Re: Is this the sebum myth?
IH-
the shampoo works to eliminate extreme sebum output but how do you cure the hyperplasia of the glands? You have stated before that you no longer have hypertrophic sebaceous glands.
Especially Pantothenic acid in the past and BY now(not as successfully) have worked well to improve my S.D. , but as soon as i don't take the supplements it comes back w a vengeance.I always thought of SD to be due to food intolerance but going GFCF for some time didn't do the trick unfortunately...
Krill and Omega 3 have not helped either.
the shampoo works to eliminate extreme sebum output but how do you cure the hyperplasia of the glands? You have stated before that you no longer have hypertrophic sebaceous glands.
Especially Pantothenic acid in the past and BY now(not as successfully) have worked well to improve my S.D. , but as soon as i don't take the supplements it comes back w a vengeance.I always thought of SD to be due to food intolerance but going GFCF for some time didn't do the trick unfortunately...
Krill and Omega 3 have not helped either.
edony- Posts : 396
Join date : 2008-10-16
Re: Is this the sebum myth?
edony wrote:I always thought of SD to be due to food intolerance but going GFCF for some time didn't do the trick unfortunately...
edony,
Which foods, drinks and supplements were you taking at the time?
kijumn- Posts : 1133
Join date : 2008-11-28
Re: Is this the sebum myth?
CS: Is there a difference in the performance of the lithium orotate and the lithium chloride? Also, does the orotate need the DMSO, or can it be replaced with DMI? Im not too keen on letting too much of the lithium enter my bloodstream.
While I dont eat as exceptionally healthy as someone like jdp, I do eat better than 99% of Americans easily. I have tried everything to get rid of my awful seb derm (nizoral, GFSE, coconut oil, hot oil treatments, custom clay mixes, fruit enzymes mixed with urea cream, Ted from Bangkok's ACV H2O2 cure), and I just cant seem to make any substantial headway. My scalp never itches, but when I do scratch at it its crunchy and dry, but somehow soaking in sebum at the same time. While I dont particularly blame this for my hairline falling back, I do think its the cause of my significant global thinning. Hopefully lithium will be able to help me, Im almost ready to go on low dose accutane despite knowing its fucking poisonous.
While I dont eat as exceptionally healthy as someone like jdp, I do eat better than 99% of Americans easily. I have tried everything to get rid of my awful seb derm (nizoral, GFSE, coconut oil, hot oil treatments, custom clay mixes, fruit enzymes mixed with urea cream, Ted from Bangkok's ACV H2O2 cure), and I just cant seem to make any substantial headway. My scalp never itches, but when I do scratch at it its crunchy and dry, but somehow soaking in sebum at the same time. While I dont particularly blame this for my hairline falling back, I do think its the cause of my significant global thinning. Hopefully lithium will be able to help me, Im almost ready to go on low dose accutane despite knowing its fucking poisonous.
TheFunkyStumpfighter- Posts : 220
Join date : 2009-11-13
Re: Is this the sebum myth?
I don't know if I have a sebum problem but would adding lithium orotate powder from pills into my shampoo reduce sebum and clear away and clogged pores due to sebum like in the video? Also, why must the shampoo be SLS free? Would it interfer with the lithium?
goten574- Posts : 489
Join date : 2009-08-03
Location : UK
Re: Is this the sebum myth?
goten574 wrote: Also, why must the shampoo be SLS free?
goten,
SLS is known as one of the cheapest industrialcleaner, the shampoo maker
put this terrible stuff into their shampoos. SLS is stimulating
the sebum production of the glands.
Furthermore SLS is suspeted to create cancer.
Crusher- Posts : 257
Join date : 2009-03-12
Re: Is this the sebum myth?
Crusher wrote:goten574 wrote: Also, why must the shampoo be SLS free?
goten,
SLS is known as one of the cheapest industrialcleaner, the shampoo maker
put this terrible stuff into their shampoos. SLS is stimulating
the sebum production of the glands.
Furthermore SLS is suspeted to create cancer.
SLS increases sebum production? I mix my shampoo together. I have a non-SLS shampoo mixed with an aloe vera SLS shampoo (which has a teaspoon of instant coffee mixed in)
goten574- Posts : 489
Join date : 2009-08-03
Location : UK
Re: Is this the sebum myth?
'Tips to reduce excess sebum
An important first step in reducing sebum secretions is to change your shampoo. It probably contains SLS (sodium lauryl/laureth sulfate)...'
Here's the full link:
http://www.hemp-guide.com/normalize-excessive-sebum-secretions.html
You also should avoid silicone in your shampoo.
An important first step in reducing sebum secretions is to change your shampoo. It probably contains SLS (sodium lauryl/laureth sulfate)...'
Here's the full link:
http://www.hemp-guide.com/normalize-excessive-sebum-secretions.html
You also should avoid silicone in your shampoo.
Crusher- Posts : 257
Join date : 2009-03-12
Re: Is this the sebum myth?
TheFunkyStumpfighter - It's quite fine for some lithium for absorb systemically, it's an important mineral and protects against glutamate toxicity. I haven't compared chloride to orotate, so I cannot say, however chloride is soluble in water whereas orotate is not particularly soluble in water.
I like to use DMSO because it helps activate wnt proteins, which are instrumental in hair growth. Lithium downregulates GSK-3-beta, so the combination maybe more effective than lithium alone.
lund posted some time ago that SLS is an agonist of TVRP1. If TVRP1 is too active then it could cause hair loss.
I like to use DMSO because it helps activate wnt proteins, which are instrumental in hair growth. Lithium downregulates GSK-3-beta, so the combination maybe more effective than lithium alone.
lund posted some time ago that SLS is an agonist of TVRP1. If TVRP1 is too active then it could cause hair loss.
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My regimen
http://www.immortalhair.org/mpb-regimen
Now available for consultation (hair and/or health)
http://www.immortalhair.org/health-consultation
Primary site under construction: Use link for now:
https://web.archive.org/web/20220330061828/https://www.immortalhair.org/
Re: Is this the sebum myth?
So can this lithium chloride.and DMSO be purchased cheap on iherb.com? Any links?
goten574- Posts : 489
Join date : 2009-08-03
Location : UK
Re: Is this the sebum myth?
http://www.immortalhair.org/topicals.htm
kijumn- Posts : 1133
Join date : 2008-11-28
Re: Is this the sebum myth?
jdp710 wrote:http://www.immortalhair.org/topicals.htm
I've already been given this link, it is not very helpful. I live in the UK, not USA so I would much rather purchase from somewhere I trust. Furthermore, when a website says this:
Arrival of International orders (outside of the USA) is not guaranteed. If the order does not arrive, is held by customs or not delivered for any reason, Cocoon Nutrition will not be held responsible and will not refund product or shipping costs.
it doesn't give me much confidence.
goten574- Posts : 489
Join date : 2009-08-03
Location : UK
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