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Post  LawOfThelema Thu May 17, 2012 2:31 pm

Hey all, I am new to this forum. In my research I keep getting led back to here or information from here keeps popping up. I do not believe in accidents or coincidences, so I figure I might as well take a more active approach.

A bit about myself for background.

Age: 30 as of this month

Hair and scalp status. Oily scalp, dandruff. This was worse when I used to consume a more western diet with regular nachos, cheese steaks, and pop. Used to get bleeding and puss-like extraction. Diffuse thinning, about an inch of recession in the temporal areas, thinning more aggressively at the vertex. Probably norwood 2, approaching 3 vertex. Did a hair loss count the other night from the shower drain and brush (bear in mind I only shower every other day), and it was about 80. Contrary to most popular information, I have found that healthy non-balding hair shed rate should be closer to 25-30, not the usual 100 that is quoted. The shower shed seemed less than usual. Not sure if this is the conditioning effect of the coconut I've been using or the scalp massage I've been doing daily for about a week or what. Hair generally seems kind of poor condition. I also only get hair cuts about once every 3/4 of a year lol. Fair amount of greys noticiable to me in my temple regions tho my hair is very dark so its probably only noticable to me.

Overall health. It's not terrible, but it sure isn't great. No specific medical conditions of note unless you count poor eyesight (nearsighted). My body type is ectomorphic. I find it reasonably hard to add weigh or muscle mass. I am on the spectrum of low activity level, low energy, lethargic. I get acne now and again, mostly now on the back and the chest, though it isnt as intense as when I was in my late teens early 20s (some noticiable scarring at the temples and on the back). I try to exercise but I find a difficulty sustaining a program due to low motivation, etc. My circadian rhythm is hugely fucked. I am essentially a vampire. I go to in the AM hours from anywhere from 4am to 11am and sleep till 4pm-6pm. As a consequence I can only reason that I must be vitamin D deficient especially since I don't consume much food overall and get extremely low sunlight. I eat about 1 meal a day, with little snacks. My diet is primarily vegetarian though closer to vegan (don berate me about soy... metanalytic reviews of the medical literature dont support the notion that soy feminizes men, that lowers testosterone, or raises estrogen, tho I am open to generalized diet considerations) at this point. I eat minimal white flour, minimal sweeteners, minimal processed fats. I take no supplementation. I was doing a multivitamin, but I saw no difference when using it vs not. I think the amounts are too low on lots of those anyway (in C and D3 for example) and basically just prevent worst state scenarios for deficiency. I am experiencing some gum recession at this point, and I suspect it could come at least in part (if not all) from malnourishment. Otherwise seems ok, aside from occasional back pain.

psycho-social-sexual: Again it's not great. I have pretty severe social anxiety disorder / depression / avoidant personality disorder. to the point where i rarely go out, don't work, avoid any form of formal social function from weddings, to parties, to funerals. i was taking celexa and xanax for this but i discontinued it after 3 years with little improvement. as far as income i manage to sell some collectible type of items (magic the gathering, comic books) to supplment. ive thought of converting this to a legitimate online sales type thing, but my low motivation saps this. i always thing about doing more in that area, but just don't act towards. in otherwords i am fairly neurotic. body dysmorphic characteristics as well. I think this is an undermentioned topic in baldness. i feel nearly everyone who is balding experience bdd. It tends to reinforce negative bodily conceptions and all the things that go along with that from mirror avoidance, poor self image etc. I had this prior to the onset of hair loss, though. I dont know where this comes from. I feel mostly a tempermental thing in response to childhood trauma or bad experiences, or selectively amplifying those bad experiences and reliving them to support an ill self image. As far as sexual activity, I get virtually none. This comes mainly from the social anxiety and the negative self-concept. Interacting with women to the point of sex just doesn't occur for me. As far as self-pleasure, for years I masturbated excessively along with obsessive consumption of pornography (not continuous excess), sometimes hours a day, several times a day. In chinese medicine excessive ejaculation is connected with loss of the jing energy which they contribute to be a causal factor in hair loss. I notice when I curb the excessive masturbation it results in less back pain and somewhat less lethargy.

environment: its mediocre. the house i live in may have mold issues. i live with my parents and due to his pathological gambling my father lets the house deteriorate. the bathroom toilet has been leaking slowly for over a year, the floor is bare wood which soaks up the water. at times there is a sour smell. the shower set up is horrendous and water gets all over the floor. everyone is so disenchanted with that situation that no one is motivated to clean the bathroom regularly. i used to exercise in the basement but curbed it due to the potential mold formation due to the constant drip onto the floor from the bathroom. the one side of the basment floor is also so degraded that it contributes to dustiness. concrete dust from my understanding isnt good for the body. the house i lived in from the ages 10 to 13, had serious mold issues. to this day i seem to be susceptible to bronchial infection, and get an acute bronchitus almost once a season. my fathers attitude is pervasively negative, passive-agressive and emotionally abusive and there is significant hostility between him and my mother. this adversely affects my mood and contributes to my depression.

Seems a bit long winded but I believe the bio-psycho-social system approach to all areas of health. Mainly interested in the hair, but I felt it prudent to list all the areas since one area can bleed into the other.

I currently dont have a treatment regimen for the hair, but I think I need to get one. I do massage the scalp (no special technique) twice a day sometimes more. And I on occasion apply coconut oil after showering. This has been shown to reduce breakage of hair and loss of protein associated with brushing and shampooing. I believe it helps significanly in curbing itch and dandruff as well.

Looking forward to your thoughts or suggestion.

Love is the law.


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Post  tooyoung Thu May 17, 2012 2:46 pm

Do you have amalgams?

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Post  LawOfThelema Thu May 17, 2012 2:54 pm

tooyoung, could you elaborate on what you mean by that?

amalgams like the dc / marvel crossover imprint from the 90s?

yes, i have the full run.

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Post  tooyoung Thu May 17, 2012 2:54 pm

LawOfThelema wrote:tooyoung, could you elaborate on what you mean by that?

amalgams like the dc / marvel crossover imprint from the 90s?

yes, i have the full run.

Sorry, I meant metal amalgam fillings in the teeth.

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Post  LawOfThelema Thu May 17, 2012 2:56 pm

tooyoung wrote:
LawOfThelema wrote:tooyoung, could you elaborate on what you mean by that?

amalgams like the dc / marvel crossover imprint from the 90s?

yes, i have the full run.

Sorry, I meant metal amalgam fillings in the teeth.

lol. i think a lot of them have been replaced by composites. might have a few left. id have to check to be honest. would they be of silver or metallic coloring?

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Post  tooyoung Thu May 17, 2012 3:01 pm

LawOfThelema wrote:
tooyoung wrote:
LawOfThelema wrote:tooyoung, could you elaborate on what you mean by that?

amalgams like the dc / marvel crossover imprint from the 90s?

yes, i have the full run.

Sorry, I meant metal amalgam fillings in the teeth.

lol. i think a lot of them have been replaced by composites. might have a few left. id have to check to be honest. would they be of silver or metallic coloring?

I'm not sure, I don't have any, I think they're just dark metally looking. Check your message inbox.

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Post  LawOfThelema Sat May 19, 2012 8:44 am

bump. anyone else. suggestions / comments.

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Post  hellwig Sat May 19, 2012 9:14 am

Take toco-8 and brewers yeast and do brushing etc (see ferox method)

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Post  CausticSymmetry Sat May 19, 2012 9:24 am

LawOfThelema wrote:bump. anyone else. suggestions / comments.

Assuming you're on a limited budget, I will state that it appears obvious that your cortisol rhythms are off and a vegan and/or vegetarian diet often exacerbates an anxiety state. I would make an attempt to incorporate the gaps-diet into your routine.

I will mention also that saturated fat is helpful in mobilizing some of the heavy metals out of the body. Being an ectomorph doesn't help at all (there's nothing to pad the inflammation). In short, incorporate a gaps-diet (Gut and Psychology Syndrome), as this fortifies the body with a rich source of probiotics and alters the gut-brain axis.

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Post  LawOfThelema Sat May 19, 2012 9:44 am

strictly speaking i guess its omnivorous, since i'll on occasion eat seafood though it is not daily and not even weekly. i dont avoid saturated fats, try to use coconut oil daily, take it by the spoon ful if i cant find and excuse to cook with it. i tend to find that diet has a minimal effect on psychology (there was no difference at all prior to eating primarily vegetarian). i believe that thought-habits, mental development, psychological temperament, and psycho-social environment are the most relevant factors to mental issues. tho i will read up on that diet.

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Post  CausticSymmetry Sat May 19, 2012 9:50 am

One thing I should add, especially for those leaning on a more vegetarian route is that animal form vitamin A (not beta carotene) is necessary to form all three forms of active vitamin A, which provide functions unavailable through a plant based diet. The good news is that supplementing with a vegan friendly form of vitamin A, called retinol palmitate can help.
This is a necessary co-factor in vitamin D metabolism.


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Post  LawOfThelema Sat May 19, 2012 10:03 am

CausticSymmetry wrote:One thing I should add, especially for those leaning on a more vegetarian route is that animal form vitamin A (not beta carotene) is necessary to form all three forms of active vitamin A, which provide functions unavailable through a plant based diet. The good news is that supplementing with a vegan friendly form of vitamin A, called retinol palmitate can help.
This is a necessary co-factor in vitamin D metabolism.

So what do you think about the gum recession. All I can come up with is some kind of malnourishment. Like I said, I get extremely low sunlight, and eat at most 2 meals a day. I also have some issues with tooth clenching. They say whenever the teeth come together vitamin C is used in some way. And I note the teeth that come together the tightest are the ones with the most recession.

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Post  LawOfThelema Sat May 19, 2012 6:51 pm

hellwig wrote:Take toco-8 and brewers yeast and do brushing etc (see ferox method)
recommendations on good quality brands?

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Post  theseeker86 Sat May 19, 2012 7:53 pm

LawOfThelema wrote:
hellwig wrote:Take toco-8 and brewers yeast and do brushing etc (see ferox method)
recommendations on good quality brands?

Not sure about the Brewers but primordial performance has been recommended as very good brand for toco-8

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