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Post  scottyc33 Mon Feb 09, 2009 3:00 pm

Recently, a friend of mine was diagnosed with MS. Does anyone have any advice what he can do naturally to help with this condition?

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Post  CausticSymmetry Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:29 pm

scottyc33 - I will start with the most important first:

Check Vitamin D levels. This is absolutely critical. The prevalence of MS increases with those living in the northern latitudes. Ideally, Vitamin D injections starting at 100,000 IU to 200,000 IU or greater.

Heavy metals, this is huge and many are effectively cured by aggressive measures to remove them.

Check usage of Aspartame (Equal/Nutrasweet). This can cause all the symptoms of MS in some people.

Avoid gluten (wheat, rye, barley), sweet rice; minimal dairy, no artificial sweeteners, no alcohol; soy (tofu, tempeh, sprouts, soy milk), cabbage, cauliflower, and eggs.

Check into Low Dose Naltrexone. http://www.lowdosenaltrexone.org/

This modulates the immune system with the opioid receptor pathway, this is very effective for most autoimmune problems.

Multiple Sclerosis can sometimes masquerade as Lyme disease. Getting a check is important to rule it out.

Check for Candida, treat appropriately.

Treatments - Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy 30 to 60 treatments (excellent for white matter)

EECP for muscle skeletal weakness

Supplements:

Lecithin granules 1-3 tablespoons

High dose Omega-3 (Krill oil)

Lithium Aspartate or Orotate (10 to 20 mg elemental)

Mixed tocopherols/Tocotrienols

Humic/Fulvic acid

500 mg phosphatidylserine

Stabilized R-Lipoic Acid

MSM 5-15 g

N-acetyl-cysteine 600 mg 3 times daily.

Coenzyme Q10 as Ubiquinol 200 mg

B12 sublingual or injections

Probiotics

Magnesium (Mag Oil would be a good idea too)
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Post  Amaranthaceae Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:10 pm

This morning I read that it is suspected that the trend of late pregnancies contribute to MS in women, going through a pregnancy has a protective effect. Since estriol is a pregnancy estrogen (rises during pregnancy at a factor of a thousand) it may be involved in protection against MS and other immune disorders.

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Post  Amaranthaceae Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:17 pm

Sure enough, there is atleast one study.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2002/09/020924072530.htm

Pregnancy Hormone Estriol Shows Promise As Multiple Sclerosis Treatment In First Human Trials

ScienceDaily (Sep. 24, 2002) — A hormone common in pregnant women shows promise as an easily administered treatment for people with early-stage multiple sclerosis (MS). A new study by UCLA neuroscientists shows for the first time in humans that estriol in oral tablet form can decrease the size and number of brain lesions, and increase protective immune responses in patients with relapsing remitting MS. The results of the Phase I clinical trial led by Dr. Rhonda Voskuhl, an associate professor of neurology at the David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA and the study's principal investigator, appear in the October edition of the Annals of Neurology. Previous research has found similar results in pregnant women and animals with early-stage MS.
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"I am excited by the prospect of finding an easily administered treatment for MS based on a naturally occurring phenomenon in pregnancy. At present the only approved treatments are anti-inflammatory drugs administered with injections," said Voskuhl, also a research scientist at UCLA's Brain Research and Neuropsychiatric institutes. "Our findings also hold promise for finding new treatments for a host of other autoimmune disorders that improve during pregnancy, such as rheumatoid arthritis."

MS is a chronic disabling disease that affects one in 10,000 people. Symptoms typically appear between age 20 and 30. The progressive neurological disorder is most common among individuals of northern European ancestry and occurs two to three times as often in women than in men. Symptoms range from numbness in the limbs to paralysis to blindness.

Researchers believe the cause is polygenetic, with individuals who contract the disease inheriting a specific combination of genes from both mother and father. Symptoms develop when the immune system becomes overactive and attacks neurons, or brain cells, by stripping away a conductive coating. Once the coating is stripped away, the neurons don't conduct the brain's electrical signals as well.

The early phase of the disease, or relapsing remitting MS, is characterized by inflammation in the brain with milder neurological symptoms that come and go. After about 10 years, the disease typically moves into the secondary progressive phase, with chronic, disabling symptoms increasing and taking hold as the brain atrophies. Anti-inflammatory injections are effective for only relapsing remitting MS.

"MS doesn't cut life short, it kills the quality of life," Voskuhl said. "Early treatment is crucial to preventing disabling symptoms. Finding an easily administered oral treatment is important, in part, because patients are less likely to delay treatment if it involves a pill rather than weekly or daily shots."

Estriol is a weak form of estrogen made by the fetal placental unit and appearing in appreciable amounts only in pregnant women. The hormone is used widely throughout Europe and Asia to treat symptoms of menopause but is not approved in the United States for hormone replacement therapy because it does not prevent osteoporosis.

The clinical trial involved 12 women, six with relapsing remitting MS and six with secondary progressive. Ten of the patients completed the trial, including all six with relapsing remitting MS. Periodic Magnetic Resonance Imaging (MRI), immune system tests and cognitive tests were conducted for each patient during a six-month pretreatment period, a six-month estriol treatment period, a six-month post-treatment period and a four-month treatment extension.

Among relapsing remitting patients treated with estriol, researchers found a significant decrease in the number and size of inflammatory brain lesions, an increase in protective immune response and an improvement in cognitive test scores. When estriol treatment ended, the lesions increased to pretreatment levels. When treatment was reinstated, the lesions again significantly decreased. Researchers found no significant improvement in lesions or immune response among the four secondary progressive MS patients who completed the clinical trial.

"Based on these results, a larger, placebo controlled trial of estriol is warranted in women with relapsing remitting multiple sclerosis," Voskuhl said. "If larger studies confirm the benefits of estriol treatment, further studies for longer periods of time will be needed to determine whether estriol can decrease relapse rates and disabling symptoms."

### The study was funded by the National Multiple Sclerosis Society, the National Institutes of Health and the Sherak Family Foundation Fund for Multiple Sclerosis.

Other UCLA researchers involved in the study were Nancy L. Sicotte, Stephanie M. Liva, Rochelle Klutch, Paul Pfieffer; Seth Bouvier and Sylvia Odesa, all of the Department of Neurology, and T. C. Jackson Wu of the Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology.

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Post  CausticSymmetry Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:32 pm

cpio - Glad you posted that, totally forgot. Many integrative clinics have been using estriol (bio-identical) for about a year with very good results.
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Post  Amaranthaceae Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:57 pm

IH, oh I thought you just didnt know about it : )

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Post  Amaranthaceae Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:01 pm

I doubt there are any studies done on PM and protective effects against auto immune disorders but it seems promising if it has the same properties as estriol.

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Post  CausticSymmetry Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:25 pm

cpio - I think so too. I listened to that PM Kudzu interview and sounds like it's the closest thing to it. I saw a study with overectomized monkeys who experienced bone growth on PM kudzu.
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Post  scottyc33 Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:17 am

Awesome info guys. Thanks so much.

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Post  Yanks Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:06 am

Any new info on MS? Wondering how effective RIFE and metal chelating can be in treating it and whether we know of link of specific metals and/or pathogens and the disease
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Post  ubraj Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:59 am

Lyme and coinfections such as brucella, bartonella, etc., mycoplasma with mycoplasma fermentans, Shigella/Shigellosis, HRES-1, HSV-6/HHV-6, Chlamydia pneumoniae, measels (measels probably from MMR vacinne which not only can infect brain but also gut), maybe XMRV.

Iron chelation/blood donation is also greatly helpful. Iron also makes most all pathogens proliferate.

B1 and B2 vitamins are killed by heavy metals needed for brain cleaning enzymes in MS. Thallium and lead would be tops here. I think mercury as well but not sure if it's due to thallium. Note how mercury commonly is polluted/bonded with thallium. Said thallium is 100x worse than mercury.


http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1602887#i


After that, due to lyme, would highly highly recommend bean as it's impossible to keep up with all pathogens. Looking at how big Sutherland's lyme script and how it runs for about a month you'd see why. Lyme lowers immune system so like AIDS will collect all the pathogens out there. Made worse for those that travel. Because of lyme being implicated and how lyme collects all these pathogens due to lowered immmunity you'll also see many other pathogens also connected but the ones above are tops with some being worse than others. Also, avoidance of aspartame for anyone with lyme as said reactivates lyme so to speak. Not to mention is a neurotoxin and a pesticide so not helpful for brain issues. Also, avoidance of MSG would be helpful in any brain issue. MSG/free glutamic acid is in most foods. Not a complete list but should be most of it. For example personally would run Para-TB which also means avoidance of milk products as well as most milk, including raw milk is polluted with it... pasteurized milk doesn't help much and most milk is infected with it and other bacteria. This is more connected with Parkinson's and said in general brain issues but would personally be safe than sorry. If still consuming milk/milk products would boil milk, zap and/or super zappicate.

A quote on para tb
You may very well be infected with a stealth bacterium that initially produces no symptoms, cannot be detected by conventional testing, and may produce illness in different organs of the body years or decades after first infection, thus eluding its identification as a master underlying cause of disease.


The reason why tubercular mycobacteria aren’t fingered as the cause of autoimmune reactions, says Dr. Lawrence Broxmeyer, is because these germs aren’t actually found in the involved tissues. They just excite an autoimmune reaction that destroys living tissues.

In Czechoslovakia, researchers examined milk in cartons that were processed according to European Union standards. They report that dairy cows infected with paratuberculosis, but show no symptoms of infection, are transmitting paratuberculosis to their milk and about 2% of pasteurized milk in cartons still harbor this bacterium. The report says “humans are being exposed to this chronic pathogen by this route.” [Applied Environmental Microbiology 71: 1210-14, 2005]

Off topic but note how the TB's are mentioned in the hair loss scripts.

Can always ask JS. Mom how her friend is doing as he was diagnosed with MS.

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Post  tooyoung Wed May 23, 2012 2:38 pm

"If still consuming milk/milk products"

jdp - Does milk products include cottage cheese?

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Post  Hoppipolla Wed May 23, 2012 11:18 pm

I believe a lot of evidence suggests it is caused or at least heavily linked to leaky gut syndrome.

If it were me I'd drop gut irritants (most grains, many legumes, possibly dairy), take glutamine, colostrum and optionally slippery elm, and take things to help with gut flora as well like apple cider vinegar Smile
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Post  sanderson Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:46 pm

Sorry to bump an old thread, but does anyone know specifically why CS said that cabbage, cauliflower, and eggs should be avoided by people with MS? Does this include other vegetables in the same family such as broccli?
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Post  Mastery Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:30 pm

CausticSymmetry wrote:scottyc33 - I will start with the most important first:

Check Vitamin D levels. This is absolutely critical. The prevalence of MS increases with those living in the northern latitudes. Ideally, Vitamin D injections starting at 100,000 IU to 200,000 IU or greater.

Heavy metals, this is huge and many are effectively cured by aggressive measures to remove them.

Check usage of Aspartame (Equal/Nutrasweet). This can cause all the symptoms of MS in some people.

Avoid gluten (wheat, rye, barley), sweet rice; minimal dairy, no artificial sweeteners, no alcohol; soy (tofu, tempeh, sprouts, soy milk), cabbage, cauliflower, and eggs.

Check into Low Dose Naltrexone. http://www.lowdosenaltrexone.org/

This modulates the immune system with the opioid receptor pathway, this is very effective for most autoimmune problems.

Multiple Sclerosis can sometimes masquerade as Lyme disease. Getting a check is important to rule it out.

Check for Candida, treat appropriately.

Treatments - Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy 30 to 60 treatments (excellent for white matter)

EECP for muscle skeletal weakness

Supplements:

Lecithin granules 1-3 tablespoons

High dose Omega-3 (Krill oil)

Lithium Aspartate or Orotate (10 to 20 mg elemental)

Mixed tocopherols/Tocotrienols

Humic/Fulvic acid

500 mg phosphatidylserine

Stabilized R-Lipoic Acid

MSM 5-15 g

N-acetyl-cysteine 600 mg 3 times daily.

Coenzyme Q10 as Ubiquinol 200 mg

B12 sublingual or injections

Probiotics

Magnesium (Mag Oil would be a good idea too)


Great post, CS.
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