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Post  ubraj Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:14 am

Considering CCSVI's role in hair loss IMO, this is interesting.

http://web.me.com/thriiive/CCSVI_Summit/Notes.html

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Post  Nanas Fri Sep 30, 2011 10:14 pm

i saw this one in the past -
http://www.betterhealthguy.com/joomla/blog/242-a-deep-look-beyond-lyme

Treatment for CCSVI includes:
Eradicating biofilms and endothelial infections such as Nanobacteria, Rickettsia, Borrelia, Mycoplasma, Chlamydia, and Mycoplasma.
Downregulating the immune response. This may be done with BioPure Lyme Nosode, Sanum remedies, auto-urine therapy, and reduction of EMFs.
Opening circulation. This may be done with bee venom cream, nanoized curcumin with pepper, or Mucokehl.
Opening veins. A dental splint may be used to increase vertical dimension. Neural therapy to the tonsils and neck may be performed using procaine with either DMPS, ozone, or Sanum remedies. Osteopathy, kinesiology, or a balloon dilation or stent.

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Post  pancacke Sat Oct 01, 2011 12:11 am

Nanas wrote:i saw this one in the past -
http://www.betterhealthguy.com/joomla/blog/242-a-deep-look-beyond-lyme

Treatment for CCSVI includes:
Eradicating biofilms and endothelial infections such as Nanobacteria, Rickettsia, Borrelia, Mycoplasma, Chlamydia, and Mycoplasma.
Downregulating the immune response. This may be done with BioPure Lyme Nosode, Sanum remedies, auto-urine therapy, and reduction of EMFs.
Opening circulation. This may be done with bee venom cream, nanoized curcumin with pepper, or Mucokehl.
Opening veins. A dental splint may be used to increase vertical dimension. Neural therapy to the tonsils and neck may be performed using procaine with either DMPS, ozone, or Sanum remedies. Osteopathy, kinesiology, or a balloon dilation or stent.
I would defnitly add mold and lyme to that list.........

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Post  Nanas Sat Oct 01, 2011 12:18 am

of course, its part of lyme treatment. enter the link in my post -
http://www.betterhealthguy.com/joomla/blog/242-a-deep-look-beyond-lyme

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Post  pancacke Sat Oct 01, 2011 12:19 am

Correction: add mold :)

edit: also niacin temporarly opens blood vessels closed by lyme and mold etc.

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Post  Nanas Sat Oct 01, 2011 1:08 am

if niacin will open it up temporary, what would do a permanent job ? (except surgery)
and how would one should know if circulation problems are due to heavy metal poisoning (such as lead), mold/lyme , or PTSD/psychological/emotional issue?








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Post  pancacke Sat Oct 01, 2011 1:26 am

Nanas wrote:if niacin will open it up temporary, what would do a permanent job ? (except surgery)
Killing mold, lyme and co-infections....and heavy metal detox is a must when killing lyme so that is needed anyhow

or PTSD/psychological/emotional issue?
These issues are result of metals and pathogens again, emotional issues alone can't constrict blood vessels IMO(but the underlying reason for e. i. can)

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Post  Nanas Sat Oct 01, 2011 1:47 am

emotional issues alone can't constrict blood vessels
- you cant be serious..


but the underlying reason for e. i. can
- explain pls.





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Post  pancacke Sat Oct 01, 2011 2:07 am

Nanas wrote:
emotional issues alone can't constrict blood vessels
- you cant be serious..
I am...why would it and for how long?


but the underlying reason for e. i. can
- explain pls.
Metals and pathogens cause emotional issues and impact bloodflow....removing those solves both problems and many more

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Post  Nanas Sat Oct 01, 2011 2:26 am

we born with some emotional 'luggage' that in the first place can burden the body function, if you add pathogens and toxins you probably get health issues...
even in lyme, the most prone to are people with type A personality etc.
part of any lyme treatment is emotional release by writing or whatever...if i understand you right - if one got rid of metals and pathogens his 'body' will be tuned or adapted with his 'mind' , and his emotional issues will be solved - hard for me to believe.
people go to shrinks for years , take psychadelics, in effort to finding the underlying reasons for their issues and you say its simple as detox?


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Post  pancacke Sat Oct 01, 2011 2:56 am

Nanas wrote: we born with some emotional 'luggage' that in the first place can burden the body function, if you add pathogens and toxins you probably get health issues...
Or we were born with the gift of pathogens and metal burden from our mother and it is the other way around...

even in lyme, the most prone to are people with type A personality etc.
People with lyme have loads of pathogens and metals....fits perfect no?
part of any lyme treatment is emotional release by writing or whatever...if i understand you right - if one got rid of metals and pathogens his 'body' will be tuned or adapted with his 'mind' , and his emotional issues will be solved - hard for me to believe.
people go to shrinks for years , take psychadelics, in effort to finding the underlying reasons for their issues and you say its simple as detox?
Then why are those solutions so incredible ineffective? What I'm saying is you can't fight a mercury induced depression by writing a diary!

Besides, I know a few psychologists(privatly), read some stuff from Wilhelm Reich and studied NLP and various self improvment literature extensivly. If you want to engenier your brain and emotions that's absolutly possible with hypnosis(if you know someone good) and some other nice tricks, but this will only mask symptoms(of phyiscal problems) which all emotional problems are. Better get to the problem source and you won't risk messing up your brain.

you say its simple as detox?
It's the opposite of simple......taking meds and sitting on the couch for an hour is simple!


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Post  Nanas Sat Oct 01, 2011 3:39 am

Or we were born with the gift of pathogens and metal burden from our mother and it is the other way around...
mmm..,what about earlier life? regression under hypnosis sometimes reveals hard experiences from earlier lifetime, which can explain some issues.
did you fell in love lately? it can drive you crazy! racing heart, cant sleep, crying from every song etc...

even in lyme, the most prone to are people with type A personality etc.

People with lyme have loads of pathogens and metals....fits perfect no?

good one!

Besides, I know a few psychologists(privatly), read some stuff from Wilhelm Reich and studied NLP and various self improvment literature extensivly. If you want to engenier your brain and emotions that's absolutly possible with hypnosis(if you know someone good) and some other nice tricks, but this will only mask symptoms(of phyiscal problems) which all emotional problems are. Better get to the problem source and you won't risk messing up your brain.
NLP , 'the secret' and others of self improvment makes me sick... i couldnt agree more about those tricks masking physical problems , just like antidepressants.




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Post  ubraj Sat Oct 01, 2011 4:47 am

This is a good quote and the possibilities is interesting if you ponder this for a long-time.


"has evidence that DNA can send spooky electromagnetic imprints of itself into distant cells and fluids. If that wasn’t heretical enough, he also suggests that enzymes can mistake the ghostly imprints for real DNA, and faithfully copy them to produce the real thing. Ineffect this would amount to a kind of quantum teleportation of the DNA"

http://blog.frequencyfoundation.com/2011/02/imprinting-dna-on-water.html

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Post  pancacke Sat Oct 01, 2011 5:11 am

Nanas wrote:
mmm..,what about earlier life? regression under hypnosis sometimes reveals hard experiences from earlier lifetime, which can explain some issues.
did you fell in love lately? it can drive you crazy! racing heart, cant sleep, crying from every song etc...
Currently I'm living in casual relationships, but I can't deny that feelings are there for most every girl I engage with. It's only painful if you love somebody you can't have(girlfirends of friends etc.) which happens to me often enough(even more when she wants you too :(...)



NLP , 'the secret' and others of self improvment makes me sick... i couldnt agree more about those tricks masking physical problems , just like antidepressants.
No I meant stuff like Bandler....not "the secret" or some mainstream BS.....
When I say selfimprovement literature, that includes philosophical texts, reading good books in general and even what I'm doing here -improving my knowledge about health.
There was a time when I read cheap selfhelp books, they are terrible but nonetheless I picked up some important info from it.

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Post  Nanas Sat Oct 01, 2011 12:06 pm

yeah, i feel for you - i had very big crush lately but things went wrong...women are the strong sex..

in my case , nothing really helped me until started self-medicating and take my health in my own hands.
it was year and a half ago and i can swear i wouldnt do shit if not hairloss.
..yes i became wiser from seeking for an answer over the years ,and got deeper into myself but my health issues was stiil there.
like you said, Nietzsche and osho cant rid you from mercury.
















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Post  pancacke Sun Oct 02, 2011 12:40 am

Thought about this yesterday a little more:
If the body has repair functions for almost anything, why wouldn't our psyche do the same? I'm speculating that no matter how harsh a trauma was.....if you take that kid, polish their health and sit them in a friendly environment where it recives love, good energy and a healthy way of living it will heal sooner or later.
Metal and pathogen burden decide, if the psyche will heal at all and how long it will take! What is likly as well, is that a kid with good health will experience traumas less intense in the first place.

Don't forget how feelings strongly relate to your brain and endocrine system.....what's messing with brain and hormones the most? -metals!


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Post  Nanas Sun Oct 02, 2011 3:40 am

Don't forget how feelings strongly relate to your brain and endocrine system.....what's messing with brain and hormones the most? -metals!
interesting...
its only speculation - but my i think my blood calcium went high to 11.2 because of a woman...and calcium is parathyroid related.
every time i take iodine i become super sensitive and emotional - some say its detox , but it may be stimulated thyroid effect.
i will start DMSA soon, and hope it will pacify my endocrine.







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Post  pancacke Sun Oct 02, 2011 11:45 am

When you start iodine many bounce from hyper to hypo and back again, balance is established only after a while.

Important is that you deal with bromide detox and chelate mercury and fluoride, otherwise you feel like crap for some time....


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Post  Nanas Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:22 am

regarding ccsvi.. would it be curable without the surgery?
does veins and arteries can actually constrict permanently? i mean with no residue of cholesterol, calcium etc.
lets assume that you killed All pathogens, so now your veins will return to their original diameter? i dont understand this issue.
as i know constriction/dilation of blood vessels also ruled by the nervous system, so i wonder if heavy metals such as lead cause circulation problems through their impact on the nervous system or in differnt way..

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Post  ubraj Thu Oct 06, 2011 6:49 pm

CCSVI outside of MS is very new information.

Here are some good quotes from the link though that may help answer a question or two though.




Treatment Options: treat chronic infections, mold, and electrosmog. 12-13 cases show that when MMP-9 is elevated, mitigating electrosmog, can bring way down. Cell phone radiation elevates MMP-9 which correlates with inflammation in the vascular system.


When giving zinc to someone with MMP-9 elevation, MMP-9 goes way up. Body is trying to deplete zinc to adapt and giving zinc may be a problem



Where there is a restriction in flow is where microbes and toxins get the upper-hand.

“Treating infections, detoxing, and reducing EMF are key pre-interventions before CCSVI. After CCSVI, headstand/inversion is key to longer-term success.

Yoga exercise – headstand – Yoga chair with cutout for head and two bars. No pressure on the neck. Start with 1 minute per day working up to 1 hour upside down per day. Phenomenally improving for the venous system and the brain. Kids read books upside down. Backswing gravity boots has a disadvantage of being a stress on the ankles and creates problems for anatomy of ankles.

Headstand treatment done for 200 years in Russia without problem. Requires cooperation of the patient or child. When you first go upside down, you think you will get a stroke but then the body adapts.

From NASA research, inversion activates genes that are not otherwise activated. It is a huge thing.

Inversion can dilate jugular stenosis. Do before and after imaging to see how headstands impact CCSVI issue

Indication from having done inversion for about a year – almost everyone approves. Get fluid column of six feet pressing on the vein. Dilates the veins. Will not resolve true valve issue, but there are several things going on that are opened up this way.

As long as you slowly build up the time, there should be no contraindication. No knowledge of increased stroke or bleeding. Helps to lower blood pressure if elevated. So far, have seen only good things though teeth, sinus, throat, etc. may hurt as areas get blood that normally do not.”

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Post  Nanas Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:50 am

wow , amazing infomation, thank you!

so, what is your take on heavey metals and their direct impact on circulation??
i started DMSA cutler protocol , and felt great after the second dose of 12,5mg !!

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Post  bh2o Fri Oct 07, 2011 4:19 am

I'm interested in DMSA and the Cutler protocol however I have about 8 amalgam fillings in my mouth and I am unsure whether or not it is safe to chelate right now with this stuff. I have read conflicting reports on taking DMSA while amalgams are still in.

I've done 30 days of humifulvate with no problems and I have done 6 days of MCP so far with no trouble. I know that DMSA does not cross the BBB so maybe I am not at risk of doing damage if I were to start the Cutler protocol now as it might be some time before I can have the fillings removed.

Any thoughts?
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Post  pancacke Fri Oct 07, 2011 4:45 am

bh2o wrote:I'm interested in DMSA and the Cutler protocol however I have about 8 amalgam fillings in my mouth and I am unsure whether or not it is safe to chelate right now with this stuff. I have read conflicting reports on taking DMSA while amalgams are still in.
Cutler says no and he's gotta know it...

I've done 30 days of humifulvate with no problems and I have done 6 days of MCP so far with no trouble.
That's because those are not chelation agents!

I know that DMSA does not cross the BBB so maybe I am not at risk of doing damage if I were to start the Cutler protocol now as it might be some time before I can have the fillings removed.

Any thoughts?
Don't do anything before removal, then 3 months of DMSA before ALA.....

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Post  bh2o Fri Oct 07, 2011 4:57 am

Ha, this whole time I thought I was chelating.

Thanks. I'm gonna try and schedule with a Huggins approved dentist sooner rather than later.
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Post  Nanas Fri Oct 07, 2011 6:43 am

people actually waiting for bad sypmtoms to come, so they'll approved they are detoxing and healing.
in my experience its not the case, "the worse i feel - the more i heal" is a wrong assumption.
its very personal how your body react to metal detox or rife or whatever...i read about a woman cured from cancer using 'doug coil' rife machine, and she never experienced detox reaction.

about humifulvate - i dont know if its chelator or not, but it sure did good things to my hair. i think it has to do something with better oxygen transport.

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