Ok guys... this is it. Am I right or am I wrong? (liver flukes and AGA)

Next to me sits a very large bottle of Fasinex..... ONE TABLESPOON is supposed to be capable of pretty much wiping out a liver's worth of flukes lol

So.......

Am I right? Were those things I saw flukes? Are they what have been messing up my digestion and causing my hormonal shift / MPB?

This is pretty much make or break time for this theory! If when I take it, a whole bunch of flukes come out and things start to get better... then maybe I was right!

I do intend to take other things or have been already such as colloidal silver, praziquantel and albendazole, but this Fasinex (Triclabendazole) is the big one for me right now.

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1476146 Fasinex is a fluke murderer... but are flukes hair murderers? >.<

Soon we will find out


Hoppi!

Flukes is the least of your problems

elan164 wrote:Flukes is the least of your problems

haha believe me if this is it I will have no problems

Life will be wicked once again ^_^

Saying that any one thing, including this, is the cause of MPB, is like saying that a Branch is a tree.

I agree with A < R. The body works as a complete system. This isn't connect the dots where one organ causes one problem. Your liver may be a component or symptom of another problem.

Guys, I'm not saying that liver flukes are the cause of male pattern baldness (or really androgenetic alopecia) in everyone. I'm saying that anything that disrupts sex hormone balance can cause AGA.

Stones, fat/sludge, bacteria or parasites in the liver, gallbladder or biliary tree are all examples of things that would very often affect hormonal balance, due to increased liver toxicity (and therefore decreased removal of excess hormones).

"I'm saying that anything that disrupts sex hormone balance can cause AGA.

Stones, fat/sludge, bacteria or parasites in the liver, gallbladder or biliary tree are all examples of things that would very often affect hormonal balance, due to increased liver toxicity (and therefore decreased removal of excess hormones)."

Agreed Hoppi

and I would add to that that those things can also reduce bile production and the ability for bile to get where it is needed, and bile emulsifies the fats that are needed by the body for hormone production, so no matter what cleaning up the liver is a very good idea :-)

JM

Thanks for the kind words JosephineMarie

I do agree that the body is complex, but I also think the core things that harm it are very, very simple.

The main two, above everything else, are parasites and bacteria. After that I think is probably fat, or more specifically cholesterol.

If you have parasites in your liver... I don't think anyone could argue that that is a complex problem. Someone might say that it's in some way related to heavy metals, but at the end of the day, you probably just ate some undercooked fish or some undercooked meat, and it's as simple as that.

The bottom line is that for someone who has bugs (bacteria or parasites) - kill them, and then get on with your life

Also I just wanna say I am really confident about taking this fluke treatment - I'm almost kinda excited about it! I can't wait to see if I get a whole bunch of flukes out of my body, which I think it the likely outcome! Hell, even if they aren't the problem... better out than in!!

I'm definitely going to take at least the praziquantel as well as I do have suspicions there are tapeworms or other stuff like that in there (I know for a fact there are pinworms as I've seen a whole bunch ) but.. onwards and upwards eh?

These bugs.. their days are very much numbered

Hippo, I'm thinking of the same problem, I had high eosinophils which could be a parasite and so the doctor said it was probably allergies, so i got my allergies tested and could not find anything. I had a B12 test and that was low (220 micrograms, reference range of 200-1100 micrograms). That's even while eating meat and dairy, that's not while i was on a vegan diet. Doctors seem to be very unwilling to test for parasites, they always think/hope it is something else, I'm not sure why. I'm pretty sure with a low B12 and a high eosinophil this is probably some kind of parasite eating away at my nutrients. Maybe I will try that stuff as well and see if it helps me out, is it safe, any side effects?

Hoppi - One can find out if parasites are a problem by using this test:

http://www.metametrix.com/test-menu/profiles/gastrointestinal-function/gi-effects-parasitology

This is the most accurate test, because unlike other tests, such as looking for eggs, this one works by
"looking" for parasite DNA.

Parasites can be a cause of allergies, including skin. No idea if liver flukes are the one we need to worry about,
at least as far as hair loss is concerned.

Damn, no dead flukes!

I guess that means either the triclabendazole can't kill them (which seems unlikely) or.. I dunno maybe i WAS seeing something else in my liver flushes and mistaking it for flukes. I really can't say. Problem is both flukes and tapeworm evidence resembles food (tomato skins and white rice respectively), and hell even roundworms can look a bit like fibrous or long undigested food.

I've got some praziquantel as well which treats flukes and tapeworms (and is another safe drug), so I'll do a round of that next.

All sounds a bit extreme I know, but this isn't just for my hair it's to fix my digestion and whole body too. I just have to hope that after a few more time of trying treatments, I eventually stumble upon something which gives results. I also really hope these are parasites and not bacteria, simply because if it's something like a salmonella infection, then I can't actually SEE them dying, which makes everything feel more like stabs in the dark!

Anyway, I'll keep going!


And Epsio, I agree man. The most common and troublesome parasites seem to be tapeworms, flukes, ascaris..... and pinworms and hookworms tend to be a more minor nuisance. You're totally right about doctors wanting to shy away from the possibility of parasites. It does genuinely make me suspicious, but I guess I'll just have to see what happens in the coming weeks as I try (safe) treatments

And thank you for the reply CS I don't really have the money for lab testing that's the problem, so I tend to rely on what I can see, such as "white rice".

It seems like parasites can cause pretty much anything to be honest, even if they don't leave the digestive tract and go more systemic. Once your digestion breaks down, it's like breaking the engine in a car ._.

Hoppi how did you get those drugs, I thought they need a prescription?

crincrin wrote:Hoppi how did you get those drugs, I thought they need a prescription?

Well, I mean I could of course just get them from trusted online pharmacies, but I tend to do what a lot of people on CureZone do and just get the like... animal meds O.O heh

You gotta be careful of course... but yeah, I mean it really does seem ok, I only take things that many others have taken before me with no problem and they're totally accepted, and I'm super careful with dosing too!

I hope I find out what's wrong with my digestion soon

Nah... about 4 doses of praziquantel in and nothing yet. Perhaps it's NOT parasites. I'll finish this round of prazi though, as it's a good way of diagnosing one way or the other.

I'm starting to side with my friend actually, who said that candida might be a big player in all this. Before, I never gave it much time, as I didn't think it would particularly harm my liver, or at least I couldn't see the connection. However apparently candida gives off a hell of a lot of toxins. It would also explain my digestive issues quite well. Apparently, his hair loss stopped for a short while after removing a ton of Candida after a cleanse.

Iiiiiinteresting!

I think if I get no parasites with this prazi, I'm going to shift focus away from parasites, fat and bacteria, and onto Candida!

I'll get there in the end

I think you're searching a little too far Hoppi, genetics is the cause of hairloss, without minoxidil or propecia (which I don't recommend) nothing can be done. As for me, only minox slowed down my loss. To me all these Candida things are bullshit: if you're tired sometimes in the evening, oh you've got Candida, you need to eat nothing but apples during two weeks to clean your liver! What does that even mean seriously, clean your liver? Why can't you admit drugs are the only answer?

I think you're searching a little too far Hoppi

agreed

genetics is the cause of hairloss

translation: I don't know anything about hairloss and even less about genetics

without minoxidil or propecia (which I don't recommend) nothing can be done

And that's the reason you participate in a forum on hairloss

As for me, only minox slowed down my loss

Did you try other things?

if you're tired sometimes in the evening, oh you've got Candida, you need to eat nothing but apples during two weeks to clean your liver!

lol, you nailed it!

Why can't you admit drugs are the only answer?

You're my hero, seriously get your own blog and I'll read it!

All I know, it's that nobody never regrew anything without drugs. I tried everything and I ended up at the hospital for being underweight, because I naively believe in those things spead up on this forum like every food causes hairloss, watch out for gluten! People should wake up and start to realise that no matter what they do they'll end up bald eventualy

I can't go into detail but here are some quick thoughts of mine:
1. Regrow and stopping hairloss are two different things. Many here have stopped their hairloss(even without drugs) and some regrowth in the 30month window is certainly possible and common.
2. If you don't eat it's only your fault, nobody elses. Gluten issues like every other foodsensitivity only affects certain people, can be cured and doesn't mean you have to stop all gluten, just limiting it as it fits you lifestyle and other criteria
3. People should face the possibility that they could get bold, yes, but more importantly you should wake up to the fact that you are heavily influenced by mainstream science propaganda. Most of what you say here is proven to be BS!

There's no science propaganda, science is always right, it's based on what we can observe, that's why we call it science. Show me one person who regrew his hair, on success story, oh wait you can't find any, because that never happened unless they had TE

lol, I see why you're here now^^

I fixed my hairloss, how about that...of course I'm just an internet kido, wanting to impress some dude named fred

Then you din't have MPB, bam!

Well, two different dermatologists prognosed it and prescribed minox, plus the balding.....wonder what that was

Ok so what's your magical recipe to maintain and regrow hair