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Poll: Has PM Affected Your Libido?
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Amaranthaceae
Joejoebaggins
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Poll: Has PM Affected Your Libido?
For everyone who is currently taking Ainterol's PM can you please post whether or not it has affected your libido? Please include your current dose as well.
Joejoebaggins- Posts : 302
Join date : 2008-07-10
Re: Poll: Has PM Affected Your Libido?
Joejoe, it reduced mine, mostly the first month. It still does but not a whole lot.
Two other people got breastpain 'sides, Sissi and a guy.
I dont think PM are more useful re hair than HMR or flax lignans. It is a viable alternative
if these two do not work enough for you.
However there might be problem that prevents lignans from working optimally and solving this would
be the best way. By digestive detoxing.
Two other people got breastpain 'sides, Sissi and a guy.
I dont think PM are more useful re hair than HMR or flax lignans. It is a viable alternative
if these two do not work enough for you.
However there might be problem that prevents lignans from working optimally and solving this would
be the best way. By digestive detoxing.
Amaranthaceae- Posts : 1368
Join date : 2008-07-15
Location : Copenhagen
Re: Poll: Has PM Affected Your Libido?
Thanks for the reply Cpio,
I was trying to figure out if my concern was necessary. Or it was a placebo effect. I'm curious if PM would work at 1 pill EOD indefinitely.
I was trying to figure out if my concern was necessary. Or it was a placebo effect. I'm curious if PM would work at 1 pill EOD indefinitely.
Joejoebaggins- Posts : 302
Join date : 2008-07-10
Re: Poll: Has PM Affected Your Libido?
Try out 112degrees.com as the new PM product. I've been given reason to doubt the Ainterol product's quality by a doc. 112degrees will actually raise your libido and I know for a fact that it's the proper PM plant used at the quantity that it's been used at for centuries in Thailand--80mg.
Libido is down, yes. As for the hair, my loss is minimal, though I'm on a lot of other pills, laser helmet, etc. as well, hehe.
Libido is down, yes. As for the hair, my loss is minimal, though I'm on a lot of other pills, laser helmet, etc. as well, hehe.
nidhogge- Posts : 2142
Join date : 2008-07-10
Re: Poll: Has PM Affected Your Libido?
Who said "natural product" are no drugs ??
propecia - sexual issues DRUG
PM - sexual issues PLANT
DRUGS are coming from plant molecules.
Watch out guys....
I'll make a post, but i found studies on EC, the one that IH comments. And it seems that many benefits were only founf on mices... i'm not telling that it doesn't mean anything with man, i'm just saying benefits are observed only on mices on this study. Also no real datas ( how many men, placebo, double blind, for how long etc...) on the human tests : only conclusions. It's easier to believe a plant is doing this or this when it's good for men. not so easy when it comes to a drug test.
I also know that thousands of people use this plant bla bla bla....But still....they certainly don't use this plant with an occidental pill at 800mg a day...
just a tought, tough...( i'm not from jacob's family, but you know, it's good to balance things...it's really a small community here, still...)
propecia - sexual issues DRUG
PM - sexual issues PLANT
DRUGS are coming from plant molecules.
Watch out guys....
I'll make a post, but i found studies on EC, the one that IH comments. And it seems that many benefits were only founf on mices... i'm not telling that it doesn't mean anything with man, i'm just saying benefits are observed only on mices on this study. Also no real datas ( how many men, placebo, double blind, for how long etc...) on the human tests : only conclusions. It's easier to believe a plant is doing this or this when it's good for men. not so easy when it comes to a drug test.
I also know that thousands of people use this plant bla bla bla....But still....they certainly don't use this plant with an occidental pill at 800mg a day...
just a tought, tough...( i'm not from jacob's family, but you know, it's good to balance things...it's really a small community here, still...)
europe- Posts : 355
Join date : 2008-10-16
Re: Poll: Has PM Affected Your Libido?
europe - Yes, PM kudzu is still being evaluated it is considered experimental so far. However any food, herb or botanticals may not be right for everyone.
Drugs are the third leading cause of death in the united states. The difference between drugs and botanicals is that one destroys an enzyme and the other may add materials. Further, a drug can sometimes cause irreversible effects, whereas you can always stop the botanical.
Drugs are the third leading cause of death in the united states. The difference between drugs and botanicals is that one destroys an enzyme and the other may add materials. Further, a drug can sometimes cause irreversible effects, whereas you can always stop the botanical.
Re: Poll: Has PM Affected Your Libido?
100mg of PM on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Pueraria-Mirifica-breast-enhancement-300-x-100-mg_W0QQitemZ220205083581QQihZ012QQcategoryZ72803QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262
Hey not sure how good a quality this PM product is, but its at a 100mg which seems a more ideal dosage. I haven't taken it for myself yet but i've ordered some and its on its way.
IH do you think PM will tackle my high androgen output considering im only 20 with lots of body hair?
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Pueraria-Mirifica-breast-enhancement-300-x-100-mg_W0QQitemZ220205083581QQihZ012QQcategoryZ72803QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262
Hey not sure how good a quality this PM product is, but its at a 100mg which seems a more ideal dosage. I haven't taken it for myself yet but i've ordered some and its on its way.
IH do you think PM will tackle my high androgen output considering im only 20 with lots of body hair?
Silverlin- Posts : 365
Join date : 2008-07-15
Age : 36
Re: Poll: Has PM Affected Your Libido?
I would guess that PM taken at a dosage of 100mg coupled with maca would solve PM's seemingly negitive libido effects. I wonder if thats why the PM/Maca combo worked so 'synergistically like' for prague?
Silverlin- Posts : 365
Join date : 2008-07-15
Age : 36
Re: Poll: Has PM Affected Your Libido?
I dont think Prague ever took Mirifica, he took the ordinary Kudzu Lobota.
PM dosage is important only in relation to the amount of miroestrol. Ainterol has 23 mcg per capsule
as far as I remember. The numbers was posted in a thread some months ago. The Solgar PM
has 16 mcg per one capsule.
Unless there are some liver concerns that we dont know about.
PM dosage is important only in relation to the amount of miroestrol. Ainterol has 23 mcg per capsule
as far as I remember. The numbers was posted in a thread some months ago. The Solgar PM
has 16 mcg per one capsule.
Unless there are some liver concerns that we dont know about.
Amaranthaceae- Posts : 1368
Join date : 2008-07-15
Location : Copenhagen
Re: Poll: Has PM Affected Your Libido?
Silverlin--
You don't know that the product that you just purchased is the proper strain of Pueraria Mirifica. There are 13 different species of kudzu, and often these foreign companies will use the strain that hasn't been known to provide the benefits that Thai Kudzu Root does (grown in only two locations in Thailand). The 112degrees.com link that I provided is, for a fact, the right kind. Same with Solgar's.
You don't know that the product that you just purchased is the proper strain of Pueraria Mirifica. There are 13 different species of kudzu, and often these foreign companies will use the strain that hasn't been known to provide the benefits that Thai Kudzu Root does (grown in only two locations in Thailand). The 112degrees.com link that I provided is, for a fact, the right kind. Same with Solgar's.
nidhogge- Posts : 2142
Join date : 2008-07-10
Re: Poll: Has PM Affected Your Libido?
Ainterol is the right stuff as well, but it is not an extract like Solgar but whole herb.
nidhogge wrote:Silverlin--
You don't know that the product that you just purchased is the proper strain of Pueraria Mirifica. There are 13 different species of kudzu, and often these foreign companies will use the strain that hasn't been known to provide the benefits that Thai Kudzu Root does (grown in only two locations in Thailand). The 112degrees.com link that I provided is, for a fact, the right kind. Same with Solgar's.
Amaranthaceae- Posts : 1368
Join date : 2008-07-15
Location : Copenhagen
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