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Post  scottyc33 Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:59 am

"The reason why is they'll have a very hard time enacting capital controls on jewelry but would have an easy time enacting capital controls on gold/silver coins and rounds. They may enact say a 50 or 60% tax on selling physical gold/silver one day. Probably during the mania. Who knows. I doubt they could do that on jewelry however as that would upset too large of the "US" population."

There will always be ways around this stuff. I read a story of a guy who was able to smuggle his net worth out of Austria past the Nazis in WII, by melting down platinum bars and fashioning them into coat hangers.




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Post  scottyc33 Wed Feb 06, 2013 12:54 am

Speaking of Argentina:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-02-04/argentina-freezes-supermarket-prices-halt-soaring-inflation-chaos-follow

Governments truly are mad.


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Post  ubraj Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:33 pm

scottyc33 wrote:
You should tell these people to go learn about what's happened in Argentina over the last few decades.

Yup, exactly.

Usually the response is it could never happen in the US. Or the people would never let the government get away with that. Or if that happens all hell would break loose.

Hmm, sounds like they haven't studied history.

A lot of people are still stuck in the trap that because it's never happend in their lives or their parents lives, then it won't happen in the future.

Maybe it won't be that bad but it's better to prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

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Post  TapItIn Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:25 pm

Hey JDP,

Do you have any quotes or articles about vitamin d3 from dr. loyd?

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Post  ubraj Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:56 am

Hi Diane,

Years ago we discovered that most people can tolerate only small amounts
of vitamin D. It was only when we studied Marshall protocol that we
understood why. Here is what I give my clients on this:

*Vitamin D3*:The Food Multi III that we use has 1000 iu.Those who muscle
test with good precision know that the idea that all people need 4000 or
more units a day is wrong.If you want more details on vitamin D, Google
"Marshall Protocol." By way of quick summary:Most people have bacterial
infections.Many bacteria produce inflammation and materials that
interfere with vitamin D receptors.This results in the rapid conversion
of the vitamin D precursor called 25-D to the active form called
1,25-D.So the levels of the inactive precursor 25-D are low.*And that is
the form that is measured on blood tests*.But the levels of the active
1,25-D are normal or high.In this situation, if your doctor tests for
“vitamin D” (inactive 25-D), it will be low and they will want you to
take vitamin D3. *At this point, taking high doses of vitamin D2 or D3
will have the effect of turning the immune system off *along with
causing other havoc! Excess 1,25-D affects receptors for cortisol, T3
thyroid hormone and progesterone among others resulting in all kinds of
hormone imbalances.The patient may feel better temporarily because their
immune system is no longer able to kill pathogens so there are no
die-off symptoms.They cannot even have a cold because cold symptoms are
caused by the immune system response!So the cold virus and countless
other infections increase unchecked.Not a good situation.If levels of
1,25-D rise above 42 ng/ml, calcium begins to be leached from the bones
producing osteoporosis.I once witnessed a situation where a woman was
advised to take large doses of vitamin D3 by a physician resulting in
spontaneous fractures.


Richard
http://www.royalrife.com

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> When the current vitamin D fad first started, we jumped on the bandwagon
> (or possibly I should say that we tripped and fell under the bandwagon)
> and we started testing everyone for vitamin D. We were going to suggest
> 4000 units or so for people because we "knew" that they needed it . The
> only problem was that most people tested that vitamin D beyond what is
> in the multi that we use was toxic for them. How could this be? This
> made my head hurt. Could Dr. Mercola and so many others be wrong?!! It
> took me a couple years to find what seems to be the answer. I found it
> while studying the Marshall Protocol. My summary is at the end of this
> post.
>
> #############################################
>
> Client PS has problems with fatigue, sensitivity to electrical fields
> and severe sensitivities to chemicals, especially those that are
> petroleum based. Her home is the worst possible design from a mold
> standpoint with both a basement and attached garage.
>
> She muscle tested that she could not tolerate even the smallest amount
> of corn alcohol (Everclear). So much for using herbal extracts and
> homeopathics.
>
> During the ZYTO LSA test she was pinged with the electrical patterns of
> many hundreds of items - glands, organs, tissues, toxins, pathogens,
> metals, etc. This normally does not cause problems but she became more
> and more distressed until she threw up into a plastic garbage bag and
> the test was discontinued.
>
> It was, however, possible to do the electrical patterns test. Mold
> toxins at 186,000 (yikes!). Staph at 9000. Yikes again. Lyme was not
> so bad at 400 but babesia at 5700 and bartonella at 8000? Candida at
> 9000? Metals, prions and EBV were high and biofilm was an astounding
> 88,000. What could have wrecked her immune system?
>
> She mentioned that in the mist of her struggles she had started taking
> vitamin D3 and it made her feel better. Ah! That was it. Bacterial
> infection --> bacterial toxins disrupt vitamin D receptors --> body
> turns the inactive precursor form of D into the active form too fast -->
> the active vitamin D is too high (Blood tests test for the inactive
> precursor and she would have tested very low. Blood tests appear to lie
> if you do not understand what they are saying.) --> she took vitamin
> D3--> the D3 crashed her immune system -> infections took off. She
> felt better temporarily because her immune system could not kill any
> candida/Lyme/bacteria so there was no die-off.
>
> She was able to tolerate Cholestepure, molybdenum and two homeopathics
> that were made with without alcohol.
>
> The molybdenum is needed to detoxify the candida toxins. More on that
> later.

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>
> My summary of the vitamin D problem:
>
> *Vitamin D3* in supplement form is needed by some people.Those who
> muscle test know that the idea that all people need 4000 or more units a
> day is wrong.If you want details on vitamin D, Google "Marshall
> protocol".By way of quick summary:Many bacteria produce materials that
> interfere with vitamin D receptors.This reduces immune system
> activity.These bacterial infections also produce inflammation which
> results in the rapid conversion of the vitamin D precursor called 25-D
> to the active form called 1,25-D.So the levels of the inactive 25-D are
> low.*And that is the form that is measured on blood tests*.But the
> levels of the active 1,25-D are unnaturally high.Excess 1,25-D affects
> receptors for cortisol, T3 thyroid hormone and progesterone among others
> resulting in all kinds of hormone imbalances.*At this point, taking high
> doses of vitamin D2 or D3 will have the effect of further turning the
> immune system off *along with causing other havoc!The patient may feel
> better temporarily because their immune system is no longer able to kill
> pathogens so there are no die-off symptoms.They cannot even have a cold
> because cold symptoms are caused by the immune system response!So the
> cold virus and countless other infections increase unchecked.Not a good
> situation.If levels of 1,25-D rise above 42 ng/ml, calcium begins to be
> leached from the bones producing osteoporosis.Now if their doctor tests
> for vitamin D (inactive 25-D), it will be low and they will want the
> patient to take vitamin D3.Yikes!!Do your homework!
>
> Richard

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Hi Cheryl,

On Friday I posted a summery of this issue. Long story short: the blood
test does not measure active vitamin D. It measures the level of the
precursor 25 (OH) D. If there is a bacterial infection (and there
almost always is), the body will convert the precursor to the active
form too fast. So the level the precursor will be low. So low "vitamin
D" on on a blood test almost always means that you have a bacterial
infection. Your actual vitamin D (which the doctor did not test for) is
probably fine. Your doctor may not know any of this or the difference
between the precursor 20 (OH) D and the actual vitamin D which is 1-25
(OH) D.

Richard
http://www.royalrife.com

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Any idea how long it takes the 1-25 (OH) D level to normalize once the
high dose is stopped? Does the immune system then begin to work
correctly?

Karen/MI


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Karen, I do not know the answer to that.

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Post  dreft Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:33 am

rdkml wrote:
FWIW, I personally consume 24 hour SCD yogurt which provides Vitamin K.

rdkml,

On your blog page (http://electromedicine.wordpress.com/2013/01/28/unique-methods-to-combat-hair-loss-and-improve-hair-quality/) you say avoiding dairy is important for hair, although you do not say why exactly dairy is bad for hair. But I found a old post of your saying "Avoidance of dairy being important (commonly contaminated with TB. A possible hair loss pathogen". Is this the reason one should avoid dairy?

So, if you consume 24 hour SCD yogurt, it does not negatively affect hair, I presume...That means there is no TB in it because of the 24 h fermenting process?
I was wondering if other cheese types legal on SCD (Gruyère, cheddar, ... ) do not affect hair as well and can be eaten?

Thank you in advance for your help!

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Post  ubraj Sun Feb 24, 2013 6:57 am

Hi dreft,

There are actually a lot of reasons why dairy should be avoided. But yes, I forget the exact number but it's somewhere around 3% or so milk products contain TB! It's estimated around 30% of the world's population has a minor infection with TB while a percentage of them will come down with major issues such as say crohn's disease, and implicated as a factor in many other issues. Hair loss being one of them as well, IMO.

And as one accumulates more iron as they age, there will be a higher chance of TB connected ailments (there are many) being an issue.

There is an ebook from Bill Sardi called the Hidden Epidemic where it talks about this a bit but the book now costs $20. http://www.naturalhealthlibrarian.com/ebook.asp?page=Hidden%20Epidemic It use to be free and posted a link to the ebook in the past but I doubt those links work now Sad

Other authors though go into this as well so can always do a google search but Bill Sardi does a very thorough job.

But again, there is much more than just TB being a problem for those with hair loss.

Either way, many people randomly over the years mention milk exaccerbating their hair loss and I agree with it... including Raw Milk.

Cheese, yes, I would also avoid if you have hair loss.

Fermented foods such as 24 hour SCD yogurt I've never had a problem with. I personally zap the milk before fermenting it which prevents bacteria and such from replicating. Normally, the milk is heated so I assume this prevents a problem here. Bill Sardi goes into pasteurized doesn't do much to the TB and others as it needs longer than the split second heating that pasteurized process in order to inhibit the TB. That it needs a little longer. But the long heating at home if I'm not mistaken does get it hot enough and long enough to.

With that said, you still have the hormones and such in the milk that can still cause a problem for some with active hair loss. Nanobacteria being another one. Then there being A1 vs A2 cows. http://www.chelseagreen.com/content/a1-cows-milk-may-account-for-a-range-of-serious-illnesses/ as well as others that I'm forgetting.

Have to experiment and see if it's a problem and why I recommend an elimination diet.

hope this helps

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Post  dreft Sun Feb 24, 2013 11:44 pm

Thank you rdkml,

Yes, the link to that free ebook works (http://books.atdesign.org/HiddenEpidemicOnlineBook.pdf). Looks interesting.

So, specific cheeses (the ones allowed on the SCD diet: Gruyère, cheddar, ... ) could hurt hair. Even though these are aged cheeses (with no lactose or hard to digest casein), according to SCD's site: "Making aged cheese involves a fermentation process which both denatures the structure of the casein (to make it more digestible) and removes the lactose."

So, according to your post and some other info, the best dairy for hair would be 24h yoghurt (removes lactose and makes the casein more digestible) made from zapped or properly sterilized goat's milk (contains A2 Beta-Casein, not the A1 Beta-Casein that cow milk contains, less fat then cow's milk,...).

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Post  ubraj Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:59 am

Hi dreft,

I wish I could better help but I've been extremely rusty on the subject (food interolance) as well as the subject on hair loss as I haven't studied it in a long-time so I no longer feel like I'm in the zone so to speak and thus I have a hard time with details.


But regarding consuming milk products, yes, I feel that 24 hour SCD yogurt is the best and I assume even better would probably be 24 SCD yogurt made with goats milk.

But then there will be a percentage who don't do well and hair loss will be aggravated by it. Including any dairy product such as cheese and other products.

Nanobacteria which is heavily implicated in calcification being a factor why pasteurized dairy is a problem.


Here is a quote and an article

The biofilm phase of nanobacterial life is one of the most damaging to human bodies, because the biofilm is a potent toxin that causes the body to react powerfully with irritation and swelling. Though the “bugs” themselves cause damage, even more damage is caused by the body’s reaction to them. In other words, the body, in trying to react to the damage, hurts itself.

http://www.a4t.org/Health/nanobacteria.html

Here is an interesting study connecting hair loss with calcification

BALDNESS AND CALCIFICATION OF
THE “IVORY DOME”

To the Editor:\p=m-\Some questions concerning baldness which
were raised by Dr. Ballenger’s comments in The Journal,
June 27, may be answered by observations which I made
while serving as technician in gross anatomy at the College of
Medicine of the University of Illinois (1916-1917). I then had
occasion to remove the brains of about 80 cadavers for separate
use in the neurology classes and incidentally noted a seemingly
obvious relation between the blood (vessel) supply to the scalp
and the quantity of hair. Baldness occurred in persons in whom
calcification of the skull bones apparently had not only firmly
knitted the cranial sutures but also closed or narrowed various
small foramens through which blood vessels pass, most prominently
in persons with a luxuriant crop of hair. These blood
vessels are mainly veins which normally communicate with the
diploic veins in the spongy tissue of the skull bones but which
are evidently pinched off by calification of the foramens. Various
stages of this process of impairing the blood circulation of
the scalp could be observed.
This, then, not only explains why baldness occurs but also
why men are more likely to become bald than women, since
bone growth or calcification is generally greater in males than
in females. Obviously “hair tonics” or vitamins are not likely to
restore a blood circulation through what has practically become
“solid ivory.” Moreover, one wonders whether the promotion
of a higher calcium intake among adults may not eventually
increase the incidence of baldness and the sales of its vaunted
remedies.

One day, I believe there will be a study with similar language as the above implicating biofilm in androgenic alopecia.

In short, consuming dairy have to experiment and see if it's a problem or not. Some dairy products are worse than others while others such as Raw milk, goats milk, 24 hour SCD yogurt and similar products are the least likely to give a problem but they can still be an issue.

It's sorta like using an antimicrobial topical and using new pillows and cases, hair brushes, hats, etc. and cleaning them often that's recommended in the beginning stages as one of the first things to do when fighting hair loss. IMO, most people will have a problem if they don't but it's best to get into the habit and then go from there to see if it affects you. Dairy is no different, IMO.

hope this helps

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Post  nara Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:54 am

So in the Netherlands we have to supplement Vit D since we don’t see sun or day light -- its dark and cloudy most of the year-- next to this we are advised to give our babies Vit D from birth till they are 3 years old and the lactating mother should take Vit D.

Now what are the guidelines for that ??? Should babies till they are 3 be taking Vit D or not ??

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Post  Shinobi Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:19 pm

Hi rdkml,

I have 2 questions for you:

  1. what do you think about supplementing in methylcobalamin ? Is it safe ?


[list=2][*]what do you think about making injectiong in a scalp of: stemcells+injection of dp cells and injection of body dermal papilla+growth factors+ecm+prp ? Is it safe ? [/list]

Many thanks,

Shinobi

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Post  ubraj Fri Apr 05, 2013 1:41 pm

Hi Shinobi,

I'm sorry, I couldn't answer either.

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Post  nara Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:09 pm

rdkml wrote:I'm not going to get into the science of it and not posting this to change any opinions but did want to give a warning about Vitamin D3.

I've been quietly studing the downsides of Vitamin D3 supplementation for several months and the stuff is very detrimental to long-term health and hair! Short-term you'll feel better and do better on it but after years, and decades for the rest, is where the problem lies.

If you want to supplement Vitamin D don't take it in a pill but get it from the sun or from the co-factors ---> Magnesium, Vitamin K, Zinc, Boron, and Vitamin A to raise your levels.


rdkml- if Vit D3 is bad in long-term, should you also avoid giving it to young babies ? according to my babies doc - she should get VitD3 till she is 3 years old .....

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