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Ozone Therapy
Anyone know or heard of Ozone Therapy? and can it help with hair loss?
goten574- Posts : 489
Join date : 2009-08-03
Location : UK
Re: Ozone Therapy
goten574 - It might help, because O3 contains an extra oxygen molecule and stimulate fibroblasts. Donating extra oxygen could potentially stimulate hair growth, however I haven't seen this studied.
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Hey Caustic ,
you are talking about O3 water?I asked about it in another thread ,Jdp also replied as not having any experience on it.
I've been researching it lately,I'm thinking of buying an O-3 device for making ozonated water.
With all the talk about O2 shortage in tissues as a hairloss cause ,I think it's agrat addition.
It is supposed to kill off funghi and all bacteria(as they probably thrive in anaerobic conditions) ,my only concern is if it also wipes off good bacteria
Anyway from what I've read it's a healer for multiple conditions and esp. gut concerns as colitis,gas,flatulence,IBS
It increases insulin sensitivity and lowers blood sugar and is a terrific energy booster
you are talking about O3 water?I asked about it in another thread ,Jdp also replied as not having any experience on it.
I've been researching it lately,I'm thinking of buying an O-3 device for making ozonated water.
With all the talk about O2 shortage in tissues as a hairloss cause ,I think it's agrat addition.
It is supposed to kill off funghi and all bacteria(as they probably thrive in anaerobic conditions) ,my only concern is if it also wipes off good bacteria
Anyway from what I've read it's a healer for multiple conditions and esp. gut concerns as colitis,gas,flatulence,IBS
It increases insulin sensitivity and lowers blood sugar and is a terrific energy booster
edony- Posts : 396
Join date : 2008-10-16
Re: Ozone Therapy
edony - I do not know anything about O3 water, but was referring to injection of 03.
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I meant to write of course "wipe out good bacteria" sorry ,just noticed,lol
edony- Posts : 396
Join date : 2008-10-16
Re: Ozone Therapy
I read once where a father had a son who needed regular and frequent hyperbaric chamber treatments. The father would accomapny his son in the chamber as the child was quite young and afraid to be alone. Anyways, the father who suffered from male pattern baldness, particularly at the crown noticed that his thinning crown started to fill in with new hair regrowth which he attributes to the oxygen he was receiving in the chamber with is son.
I really believe that oxygenating your blood can really help with hair regrowth and overall body health. It is even used to fight cancer. Any thoughts on the use of hyperbaric chambers IH?
I really believe that oxygenating your blood can really help with hair regrowth and overall body health. It is even used to fight cancer. Any thoughts on the use of hyperbaric chambers IH?
Grateful- Posts : 169
Join date : 2008-07-19
Re: Ozone Therapy
Grateful - I've thought about it a lot, and I blew an opportunity to get a whole series of them for free. I've had a few meetings with one of the world's experts on HBOT, and he once joked to me that his full head of hair was related to the HBOT, but I didn't bother to ask him if that was a factor.
If one decides to use HBOT, it's a good idea to take GliSODin (if they're not allergic to wheat) to compensate for the free radicals during the therapy.
I believe the oxygenation is a huge factor.
An alternative way to get lots of oxygen in the body is using EWOT, which stands for Exercise with Oxygen Therapy.
If one decides to use HBOT, it's a good idea to take GliSODin (if they're not allergic to wheat) to compensate for the free radicals during the therapy.
I believe the oxygenation is a huge factor.
An alternative way to get lots of oxygen in the body is using EWOT, which stands for Exercise with Oxygen Therapy.
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I was using ozonated water on my scalp but found that it had a bleaching effect on my hair- to the point that people were commenting. I do , however, drink ozonated water and find that this gives me a lift.
CS _ i have really been enjoying your daily topics. i find them very practical and enlightening. Im not sure - did you follow up on your oxygen therapy article- I think you mentioned that your were going to do another article. I was curious as to your thoughts on hydrogen peroxide therapy.
Here is my question - I used to mix a 6% solution of hydrogen peroxide and aloe vera gel and rub that into my skin. It felt very invigorating ( like running around the block) but I stopped because I was concerned about free radical production. What are your thoughts? wouldnt the increase in free radicals be harmful in this approach?
Im not sure if you are aware of this but there is a device that is called a pulse oximeter that measures the oxgenation of the blood. I used one in the hospitall and was surprised to find I was only at 89%! They are now available in home models for about 300 $
I agree that optimum oxgenation is a key( as you mentioned in a recent post) but what about the free radicals? should we just increase our antioxidants?
Thanks!
CS _ i have really been enjoying your daily topics. i find them very practical and enlightening. Im not sure - did you follow up on your oxygen therapy article- I think you mentioned that your were going to do another article. I was curious as to your thoughts on hydrogen peroxide therapy.
Here is my question - I used to mix a 6% solution of hydrogen peroxide and aloe vera gel and rub that into my skin. It felt very invigorating ( like running around the block) but I stopped because I was concerned about free radical production. What are your thoughts? wouldnt the increase in free radicals be harmful in this approach?
Im not sure if you are aware of this but there is a device that is called a pulse oximeter that measures the oxgenation of the blood. I used one in the hospitall and was surprised to find I was only at 89%! They are now available in home models for about 300 $
I agree that optimum oxgenation is a key( as you mentioned in a recent post) but what about the free radicals? should we just increase our antioxidants?
Thanks!
TK- Posts : 79
Join date : 2010-01-22
Re: Ozone Therapy
TK - "Transdermal" hydrogen peroxide therapy is great, as in via the bath water. When hydrogen peroxide does its work, the end result is water. It is basically an effective oxidative therapy, much like high dose IV-Ascorbic Acid or a weaker form of Hydrogen peroxide IV. It's extremely effective at killing microbes, etc.
Provided you have plenty of circulating antioxidant enzymes, it's a great therapy.
I'm going to write about sleep apnea really soon, which does involve pulse oximeter, and oximetry measurements.
The solutions that I'm going to present involve no expensive sleep study, and no C-PAP machine.
Anyway on oxygen therapy (EWOT), did you see this article and it's part two?
http://www.immortalhair.org/apps/blog/show/1928130-living-longer-with-greater-oxygen-capacity
Provided you have plenty of circulating antioxidant enzymes, it's a great therapy.
I'm going to write about sleep apnea really soon, which does involve pulse oximeter, and oximetry measurements.
The solutions that I'm going to present involve no expensive sleep study, and no C-PAP machine.
Anyway on oxygen therapy (EWOT), did you see this article and it's part two?
http://www.immortalhair.org/apps/blog/show/1928130-living-longer-with-greater-oxygen-capacity
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Thanks CS,
With the recent posts on the role of fungus and the need for full oxygenation I think I will increase my ozone drinking and get back to transdermal hydrogen peroxide!. I guess I will just have to stay on top of my antioxidants and moniter my inflammation by way of the microscope.
Ive been wondering - My last 5-6 pounds of subcutananeous fat seems to be quite stubborn. Do you think applying oxygen by way of a 6% transdermal solution will help to mobilize this fat more effectively?
BTW, I really appreciate your feedback - I cant overstate my respect for your knowledge and guidance!
With the recent posts on the role of fungus and the need for full oxygenation I think I will increase my ozone drinking and get back to transdermal hydrogen peroxide!. I guess I will just have to stay on top of my antioxidants and moniter my inflammation by way of the microscope.
Ive been wondering - My last 5-6 pounds of subcutananeous fat seems to be quite stubborn. Do you think applying oxygen by way of a 6% transdermal solution will help to mobilize this fat more effectively?
BTW, I really appreciate your feedback - I cant overstate my respect for your knowledge and guidance!
TK- Posts : 79
Join date : 2010-01-22
Re: Ozone Therapy
TK - Thanks for the comments!
If the subcutananeous fat is visceral, (the most difficult to burn), it usually requires some HIIT (high intensity interval training). Perhaps an extra edge would be forskolli (coleus), which amounts to 25 millligrams of forslean (the patented extract) twice per day. It can burned an average of nearly 10 pounds of fat in 12 weeks.
If the subcutananeous fat is visceral, (the most difficult to burn), it usually requires some HIIT (high intensity interval training). Perhaps an extra edge would be forskolli (coleus), which amounts to 25 millligrams of forslean (the patented extract) twice per day. It can burned an average of nearly 10 pounds of fat in 12 weeks.
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I'm going to write about sleep apnea really soon, which does involve pulse oximeter, and oximetry measurements.
The solutions that I'm going to present involve no expensive sleep study, and no C-PAP machine.
Thanks CS, been looking for info on this as this is what's going on with me recently, so I'm glad I have the best source for it. Many thanks.
Whip- Posts : 378
Join date : 2009-09-27
Re: Ozone Therapy
TK,
I own a 10 year old oximeter that I got from a hospital and I own this one as well.
http://www.amazon.com/Arosa-Technology-cms50L-Fingertip-Oximeter/dp/B002BUYSDC/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=hpc&qid=1268374343&sr=8-5
This one works great. I recommend it.
I own a 10 year old oximeter that I got from a hospital and I own this one as well.
http://www.amazon.com/Arosa-Technology-cms50L-Fingertip-Oximeter/dp/B002BUYSDC/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=hpc&qid=1268374343&sr=8-5
This one works great. I recommend it.
kijumn- Posts : 1133
Join date : 2008-11-28
Re: Ozone Therapy
Hey JDP,
thanks for the great find - they dont ship to Canada but I ordered one from a canadian company for 100$ - 1/3 the price of when I last checked.
BTW, what percentage oxygenation are you typically?
thanks for the great find - they dont ship to Canada but I ordered one from a canadian company for 100$ - 1/3 the price of when I last checked.
BTW, what percentage oxygenation are you typically?
TK- Posts : 79
Join date : 2010-01-22
Re: Ozone Therapy
Hey TK,
My oxygen reading averages 94 but sometimes it gets up to 96 or down to 93. It use to average a couple points lower when I was still losing hair.
Interestingly, after taking a hot shower the oxygen reading goes down to 90.
By the way, regarding losing weight high dose Iodine is "very good" at removing that last bit of excess fat around the stomach, in my experience. Here is a random thread at curezone
http://www.curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=894313
Alternatively, you can try enzymes as well but not sure how well it would work. Here is a good link regarding enzymes.
http://www.stopcancer.com/Enzymes&Cancer.htm
Lipase and Protease enzymes appear to be the way to go for weight loss
A quote
There are also some really good reviews regarding enzymes helping with multiple food allergies where they are able to eat gluten or whatever so long as they take a high quality enzyme supplement.
Digest Gold appears to be THE or one of the best enzyme products http://www.iherb.com/Enzymedica-Digest-Gold-180-Capsules/7056?at=0
I bought this one hoping it's a cost-effective alternative to Digest Gold though based on the reviews.
http://www.iherb.com/Doctor-s-Best-Best-Digestive-Enzymes-All-Vegetarian-90-Veggie-Caps/12?at=0
I'm not crazy about the probiotic being in the Doctor's Best enzyme product though as I'm not really a big on probiotics in my experience. They are all aluminum based bacteria where the really beneficial ones are yttrium based bacteria which are not found in probiotics. The aluminum based probiotic or aluminum in food (processed food) will inhibit the yttrium based bacteria. Cooking with turmeric is one way to replenish the beneficial yttrium based bacteria ... well that is until you take an aluminum probiotic or aluminum in food.
Here are some threads on yttrium
http://www.curezone.com/forums/search.asp?q=yttrium&f=815
So again, if you can afford it, Digest Gold would be better but I went with Doctor's Best due to price.
What's also good about high dose Iodine or enzymes is that CS has posted previously as study showing streamers in MPB in the majority of MPB sufferers. Enzymes or Iodine should get rid of this, otherwise could be a constant source of inflammation in our scalp for a good percentage of us. Topical iodine would probably work eventually too.
Hope this helps.
My oxygen reading averages 94 but sometimes it gets up to 96 or down to 93. It use to average a couple points lower when I was still losing hair.
Interestingly, after taking a hot shower the oxygen reading goes down to 90.
By the way, regarding losing weight high dose Iodine is "very good" at removing that last bit of excess fat around the stomach, in my experience. Here is a random thread at curezone
http://www.curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=894313
Alternatively, you can try enzymes as well but not sure how well it would work. Here is a good link regarding enzymes.
http://www.stopcancer.com/Enzymes&Cancer.htm
Lipase and Protease enzymes appear to be the way to go for weight loss
A quote
"When you have enough Lipase your body is able to break down and dissolve the fat stored throughout the body. Without this vital enzyme fat accumlates and is stored in your arteries, organs, and capillaries. You will see it accumulate on hips, the rear, stomach, and thighs.
Another important enzyme is Protease which is vital for breaking down proteins and the elimination of toxins. If your body is storing toxins it is very difficult to burn fat and fat is where your body stores excess toxins. When you do burn fat toxins are first released back into your system which can cause water retention and also bloating. So a diet rich in protease, or supplementation will help to eliminate toxins which is why these two enzymes are so important when you are using enzymes to lose weight."
There are also some really good reviews regarding enzymes helping with multiple food allergies where they are able to eat gluten or whatever so long as they take a high quality enzyme supplement.
Digest Gold appears to be THE or one of the best enzyme products http://www.iherb.com/Enzymedica-Digest-Gold-180-Capsules/7056?at=0
I bought this one hoping it's a cost-effective alternative to Digest Gold though based on the reviews.
http://www.iherb.com/Doctor-s-Best-Best-Digestive-Enzymes-All-Vegetarian-90-Veggie-Caps/12?at=0
I'm not crazy about the probiotic being in the Doctor's Best enzyme product though as I'm not really a big on probiotics in my experience. They are all aluminum based bacteria where the really beneficial ones are yttrium based bacteria which are not found in probiotics. The aluminum based probiotic or aluminum in food (processed food) will inhibit the yttrium based bacteria. Cooking with turmeric is one way to replenish the beneficial yttrium based bacteria ... well that is until you take an aluminum probiotic or aluminum in food.
Here are some threads on yttrium
http://www.curezone.com/forums/search.asp?q=yttrium&f=815
So again, if you can afford it, Digest Gold would be better but I went with Doctor's Best due to price.
What's also good about high dose Iodine or enzymes is that CS has posted previously as study showing streamers in MPB in the majority of MPB sufferers. Enzymes or Iodine should get rid of this, otherwise could be a constant source of inflammation in our scalp for a good percentage of us. Topical iodine would probably work eventually too.
Hope this helps.
kijumn- Posts : 1133
Join date : 2008-11-28
Re: Ozone Therapy
Hey JDP!
Yep, helpful as always!
Ive been taking large doses of iodine since november. All thru nov and dec and mid january I was dumping bromide big time( terrible skin)- now my skin is super clear. Since reading your posts on super high iodine doses I have upped my intake to 300 and then 600 mgs. I had a fever for almost ten days but now I feel amazing! I do get the occasional mild headache - I wondering if detoxing other things like lead and mercury have there own symptoms. Im going to slowly increase my intake to 1000 mg like you and keep it there for a while.
Is there anything iodine cant do? It detoxifies heavy metals , gets rid of estrogen, dissolves fibrosis, turns our glands on, gets rid of fungus and bacteria - its amazing! ( did I miss anything?)
Also I have been taking enzymes internally since I have been applying it topically. I find that they are top notch for reducing inflammation and itch.
My next step is the low oxalates - I finally got the nerve to start that on monday. Im going to miss almonds as they were a main staple of my diet but since the amazing results from no gluten I want to see if this added step takes it up a notch
Anyway, thanks for your help buddy! - I hope you are well
TK
Yep, helpful as always!
Ive been taking large doses of iodine since november. All thru nov and dec and mid january I was dumping bromide big time( terrible skin)- now my skin is super clear. Since reading your posts on super high iodine doses I have upped my intake to 300 and then 600 mgs. I had a fever for almost ten days but now I feel amazing! I do get the occasional mild headache - I wondering if detoxing other things like lead and mercury have there own symptoms. Im going to slowly increase my intake to 1000 mg like you and keep it there for a while.
Is there anything iodine cant do? It detoxifies heavy metals , gets rid of estrogen, dissolves fibrosis, turns our glands on, gets rid of fungus and bacteria - its amazing! ( did I miss anything?)
Also I have been taking enzymes internally since I have been applying it topically. I find that they are top notch for reducing inflammation and itch.
My next step is the low oxalates - I finally got the nerve to start that on monday. Im going to miss almonds as they were a main staple of my diet but since the amazing results from no gluten I want to see if this added step takes it up a notch
Anyway, thanks for your help buddy! - I hope you are well
TK
TK- Posts : 79
Join date : 2010-01-22
Re: Ozone Therapy
TK - Iodine will also prevent hormone driven cancers (endometrial, ovarian, cervical, breast and prostate).
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Yeah, you gotta love Iodine!
Hey TK,
Just in case, I wanted to clarify one thing when I mention taking 1000 mg of Iodide. When I take that much, I'm not taking Iodine but Iodide. Iodine is the pro-oxidant ... burns fat, anti cancer It can be harsh on your body when you get above 300 mg. I don't recommend more than 300 mg of Iodine per day even though I've gone up to 500 mg of Iodine. When you drink Iodine, the burning sensation is the Iodine. Iodide on the other hand is an antioxidant and I'm taking 1000 mg to detox halogens ... 330 mg x 3 works well but others have recommended 250 mg x 4. Anyway, there is a whole new area of detox and benefits once you get to that amount that doesn't seem to come out with lower doses or possibly take years to come out. I believe it's flouride and appears to be. If you're going to take that amount, I'd highly recommend to have some boron on hand or ready. 9 mg of boron per day (I use Osteoboron) if you have symptoms works well for the flouride ... actually "EXTREMELY" well.
I should also mention for others reading this to avoid confusion selenomethionine would be essential at this high of a dose. On curezone, it's been mentioned that over 50 mg of Iodine or Iodide you'll need 400 - 800 mcg of selenomethionine. IME, at 1000 mcg 800 - 1200 mcg selenomethionine works well when taking 1000 mg of Iodide. Eventually the selenomethionine will build-up in you body causing toxicity but should be many months or even years before that happens. 600 mcg appears to be the safe upper limit for long-term selenomethionine.
Also, I should mention at such a high dose you'll want a little bit of lithium on hand as well as Iodine depletes lithium.
I'm sure you're aware but in case others aren't if you want to take just Iodide and no Iodine then you can grab some Lugol's, add a pinch of ascorbic acid powder to the water. Water then turns from brown to clear now showing only Iodide. And to calculate Iodide content of 5 "vertical" drops of 2% Lugol's then would be 12.5 mg of Iodine + 25 mg of Iodide = 37.5 mg of Iodide and 0 mg of Iodine.
Alternatively, vitaspace(dot)com has a good price if you're looking for just Iodide 500 grams = $50.
I'm also going to experiment with detoxified Iodine and also topically based on one persons experience at curezone. They mentioned that detoxified Iodine worked extremely well on fungus. Nascent Iodine, Lugol's Iodine doesn't work well on fungus IME and others even though the literature says otherwise.
Hey TK,
Just in case, I wanted to clarify one thing when I mention taking 1000 mg of Iodide. When I take that much, I'm not taking Iodine but Iodide. Iodine is the pro-oxidant ... burns fat, anti cancer It can be harsh on your body when you get above 300 mg. I don't recommend more than 300 mg of Iodine per day even though I've gone up to 500 mg of Iodine. When you drink Iodine, the burning sensation is the Iodine. Iodide on the other hand is an antioxidant and I'm taking 1000 mg to detox halogens ... 330 mg x 3 works well but others have recommended 250 mg x 4. Anyway, there is a whole new area of detox and benefits once you get to that amount that doesn't seem to come out with lower doses or possibly take years to come out. I believe it's flouride and appears to be. If you're going to take that amount, I'd highly recommend to have some boron on hand or ready. 9 mg of boron per day (I use Osteoboron) if you have symptoms works well for the flouride ... actually "EXTREMELY" well.
I should also mention for others reading this to avoid confusion selenomethionine would be essential at this high of a dose. On curezone, it's been mentioned that over 50 mg of Iodine or Iodide you'll need 400 - 800 mcg of selenomethionine. IME, at 1000 mcg 800 - 1200 mcg selenomethionine works well when taking 1000 mg of Iodide. Eventually the selenomethionine will build-up in you body causing toxicity but should be many months or even years before that happens. 600 mcg appears to be the safe upper limit for long-term selenomethionine.
Also, I should mention at such a high dose you'll want a little bit of lithium on hand as well as Iodine depletes lithium.
I'm sure you're aware but in case others aren't if you want to take just Iodide and no Iodine then you can grab some Lugol's, add a pinch of ascorbic acid powder to the water. Water then turns from brown to clear now showing only Iodide. And to calculate Iodide content of 5 "vertical" drops of 2% Lugol's then would be 12.5 mg of Iodine + 25 mg of Iodide = 37.5 mg of Iodide and 0 mg of Iodine.
Alternatively, vitaspace(dot)com has a good price if you're looking for just Iodide 500 grams = $50.
I'm also going to experiment with detoxified Iodine and also topically based on one persons experience at curezone. They mentioned that detoxified Iodine worked extremely well on fungus. Nascent Iodine, Lugol's Iodine doesn't work well on fungus IME and others even though the literature says otherwise.
kijumn- Posts : 1133
Join date : 2008-11-28
Re: Ozone Therapy
TK,
I forgot to mention that you can also take two strong magnets and place it against the Lugol's bottle to take a little bit of the sting out of Iodine and make it smoother. I've never tried it myself though.
Here is a thread on it http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1050298#i
Also, regarding oxalates, I posted this on the other thread but it's a good read regarding oxalates in those with gluten sensitivity It's 29 pages long
http://www.celiac.com/gluten-free/topic/38564-oxalates-and-nightshades/
hope this helps
I forgot to mention that you can also take two strong magnets and place it against the Lugol's bottle to take a little bit of the sting out of Iodine and make it smoother. I've never tried it myself though.
Here is a thread on it http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1050298#i
Also, regarding oxalates, I posted this on the other thread but it's a good read regarding oxalates in those with gluten sensitivity It's 29 pages long
http://www.celiac.com/gluten-free/topic/38564-oxalates-and-nightshades/
hope this helps
kijumn- Posts : 1133
Join date : 2008-11-28
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