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Post  RobHealthMan Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:50 am

HI CS and others,

To be on the safe side, should I just go ahead and take Lugol's? Will this hurt my health/Hair loss in anyway?

What dosage will be safe?

I'm just saying that if we go by statistics that 80% of population is iodine deficient, then by probability sake i should just go ahead and take it?

thanks guys!

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Post  CausticSymmetry Fri Dec 11, 2009 3:57 am

RobHealthMan - Wouldn't expect any harm. The "worst" that could happen is a sort of detoxification reaction which in the long run is a good thing. Ultimately you're likely to live longer and while the studies haven't emerged yet, I believe it is a significant way to prevent the most common cancer in men, prostate cancer.

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Post  kijumn Fri Dec 11, 2009 5:32 am

A couple on curezone have mentioned an initial worsening of hair when first supplementing Iodine but in the end their hair looked better. They attributed it to possibly the release of heavy metals as Iodine helps chelate heavy metals but who knows if that's the reason. Either way, I haven't heard anyone mention that Iodine supplementation in the end caused harm to their hair.

If you're scared of Iodine, Iodide is much smoother and easier on your body ... an antioxidant actually. Instead of just buying Iodide you can just put some drops of Lugol's in a liquid that contains Vitamin C or just add a pinch of Vitamin C to the water that contains Lugol's and it converts all the Iodine to just Iodide.

Also, don't forget to take selenium as selenomethionine when supplementing Iodine.

With all this said, Iodine/Iodide is some great stuff. It makes everything in your body work much better.

Here's some quotes

"Animal studies have shown that the addition of selenium supplementation will alleviate the effects of excess iodine intake.[xxxix]"

http://www.healthsalon.org/290/cancer-alternative-treatments-selenium-iodine-alpha-lipoic-acid-and-sodium-bicarbonate/

"In the human body large amount of Iodide are
enzymatically converted into elemental Iodine. The
female breast, for example, concentrates the amount of
Iodine in breast milk, by converting large amounts of
Iodides into elemental Iodine, then the elemental Iodine
ends up dissolving in and concentrated in the milk fat.
That vastly increases how much Iodine a mother's
nursing baby get. Even when no breast feeding is going
on females breasts still convert Iodides into elemental
Iodide. The kidneys then excrete the excess elemental
Iodine coming from the breasts about 5 times faster than
they excrete Iodides. That is why even women who are
not nursing babies ideally still need about 5 mg more
dietary Iodide per day than men. So if you eat enough
Iodide, even if you eat no element Iodine at all, you body
can covert enough of it into enough Iodine so that you
can enjoy all of Iodine's anti-bacterial, anti-viral and
anti-cancer activities that you need. In fact, the infection
fighting and cancer fighting white blood cells secrete
Hydrogen Peroxide, which converts any nearby Iodides
in the body into elemental Iodine. That Iodine then
attacks and helps to kill the germs and/or cancer cells
that the white blood cells are fighting."
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Post  kijumn Fri Dec 11, 2009 5:37 am

Hey CausticSymmetry,

I don't understand any of this but I thought you might be interested

http://iodine4health.com/disease/cancer/prostatecancer/spitzweg_prostatecancer.htm

http://iodine4health.com/disease/cancer/prostatecancer/siddiqui_prostatecancer.htm
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Post  CausticSymmetry Fri Dec 11, 2009 6:05 am

jdp710 - The first one is using a steroid immune suppressant with radioactive iodine to kill cancer cells in the prostate.

All of those mentioned radioactive iodine which is commonly used as a toxic agent.

Natural iodine prevents estrogens proliferation effect on cells.

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Post  hapyman Fri Dec 11, 2009 7:38 am

Speaking of radioactive iodine (which is really toxic) is there any way to reverse the damage done to the thyroid when it is being used to treat hyperthyroidism? I know a couple people who 20 years ago got this done and are now hypothyroid.

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Post  CausticSymmetry Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:23 am

hapyman wrote:Speaking of radioactive iodine (which is really toxic) is there any way to reverse the damage done to the thyroid when it is being used to treat hyperthyroidism? I know a couple people who 20 years ago got this done and are now hypothyroid.

Thanks/

hapyman - It's pretty amazing how patients suffering from Grave's disease or a form of hyperthyroidism become victims of the medical establishment with this barbaric methodology. If someone suffers from hyperthyroidism there are 4 treatments I know of, and 2 of them are preferred over the other two. High dose lugols is preferred, but also high dose Lithium will work too.

Of course, the question you presented is--what is done post radioactive iodine 'treatment?'

The only option is thyroid replacement, preferably Armour or dessicated thyroid along with iodine.

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Post  lund Sat Dec 12, 2009 2:16 am

My only warning is to make sure your adrenals are in top order before trying to dump/make more T4/T3 in the system via Iodine/tyrosine/selenium combo.

I remember when I was taking 15mg of Iodine per day I was getting dull aches around my kidneys - a typical symptom stated in this protocol. Everywhere I read it was supposed to be a "detox" reaction. I bet that was my adrenals hurting from the additional thyroid dump. If you read up, the solution is to take "Sea salt water flush" - which directly helps the adrenals. The info otherwise says "Sea Slat Water flush would clear kidneys" - I am not sold on this theory.

Reading more on this subject, we know adrenals and thyroids go hand in hand. Adrenals must be supported and in good condition for thyroid meds to work. That is why they all now say to address and support adrenals first before taking in extra thyroid (armour, t3, etc). Id Iodine is indeed increasing the production of t4 or the conversion from t4 to t3, same would apply to iodine as well.

There may be other kinds of detox symptoms - but a dull ache around kidneys might very well be a sign of adrenals hurting....and the fact that sea salt water helps is another evidence implicating adrenals.

Just some food for thought.

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Post  RobHealthMan Sat Dec 12, 2009 5:58 pm

CausticSymmetry wrote:RobHealthMan - Wouldn't expect any harm. The "worst" that could happen is a sort of detoxification reaction which in the long run is a good thing. Ultimately you're likely to live longer and while the studies haven't emerged yet, I believe it is a significant way to prevent the most common cancer in men, prostate cancer.

Thanks CS!

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Post  RobHealthMan Sat Dec 12, 2009 5:59 pm

jdp710 wrote:A couple on curezone have mentioned an initial worsening of hair when first supplementing Iodine but in the end their hair looked better. They attributed it to possibly the release of heavy metals as Iodine helps chelate heavy metals but who knows if that's the reason. Either way, I haven't heard anyone mention that Iodine supplementation in the end caused harm to their hair.

If you're scared of Iodine, Iodide is much smoother and easier on your body ... an antioxidant actually. Instead of just buying Iodide you can just put some drops of Lugol's in a liquid that contains Vitamin C or just add a pinch of Vitamin C to the water that contains Lugol's and it converts all the Iodine to just Iodide.

Also, don't forget to take selenium as selenomethionine when supplementing Iodine.

With all this said, Iodine/Iodide is some great stuff. It makes everything in your body work much better.

Here's some quotes

"Animal studies have shown that the addition of selenium supplementation will alleviate the effects of excess iodine intake.[xxxix]"

http://www.healthsalon.org/290/cancer-alternative-treatments-selenium-iodine-alpha-lipoic-acid-and-sodium-bicarbonate/

"In the human body large amount of Iodide are
enzymatically converted into elemental Iodine. The
female breast, for example, concentrates the amount of
Iodine in breast milk, by converting large amounts of
Iodides into elemental Iodine, then the elemental Iodine
ends up dissolving in and concentrated in the milk fat.
That vastly increases how much Iodine a mother's
nursing baby get. Even when no breast feeding is going
on females breasts still convert Iodides into elemental
Iodide. The kidneys then excrete the excess elemental
Iodine coming from the breasts about 5 times faster than
they excrete Iodides. That is why even women who are
not nursing babies ideally still need about 5 mg more
dietary Iodide per day than men. So if you eat enough
Iodide, even if you eat no element Iodine at all, you body
can covert enough of it into enough Iodine so that you
can enjoy all of Iodine's anti-bacterial, anti-viral and
anti-cancer activities that you need. In fact, the infection
fighting and cancer fighting white blood cells secrete
Hydrogen Peroxide, which converts any nearby Iodides
in the body into elemental Iodine. That Iodine then
attacks and helps to kill the germs and/or cancer cells
that the white blood cells are fighting."


Thank you JDP! Is there a good iodide supplement to purchase from iherb instead of lugol's?

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Post  RobHealthMan Sat Dec 12, 2009 6:00 pm

lund wrote:My only warning is to make sure your adrenals are in top order before trying to dump/make more T4/T3 in the system via Iodine/tyrosine/selenium combo.

I remember when I was taking 15mg of Iodine per day I was getting dull aches around my kidneys - a typical symptom stated in this protocol. Everywhere I read it was supposed to be a "detox" reaction. I bet that was my adrenals hurting from the additional thyroid dump. If you read up, the solution is to take "Sea salt water flush" - which directly helps the adrenals. The info otherwise says "Sea Slat Water flush would clear kidneys" - I am not sold on this theory.

Reading more on this subject, we know adrenals and thyroids go hand in hand. Adrenals must be supported and in good condition for thyroid meds to work. That is why they all now say to address and support adrenals first before taking in extra thyroid (armour, t3, etc). Id Iodine is indeed increasing the production of t4 or the conversion from t4 to t3, same would apply to iodine as well.

There may be other kinds of detox symptoms - but a dull ache around kidneys might very well be a sign of adrenals hurting....and the fact that sea salt water helps is another evidence implicating adrenals.

Just some food for thought.

thank you lund! my serum thyroid test shows my t3/t3/tsh are all within normal/healthy range. but it seems my adrenals are starting to fatigue and in early stages of this.

Will lugol's help here? As i asked JDP, is there a good iodide supplement from iherb instead?

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Post  RobHealthMan Tue Dec 15, 2009 2:53 am

Thank you everyone thus far!

Has anyone actually experience hair worsening temporarily when starting iodine then the hair getting better as a result?

thanks!

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