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My scalp is flaking terrribly Help?
hey guys im new to this website just recently started IH top 6 regimen,krill oil, sensoril and promox. My scalp is flaking like no tommorrow for some reason. I use Nizoral and reviogen shampoo and conditioner but the nizoral cannot keep my scalp from flaking and being dry. Is there anything i can use. Any insight would be very helpful. Dandruff is a very big problem for me.
youngbalder- Posts : 283
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Age : 38
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Re: My scalp is flaking terrribly Help?
Try the Kelual lotion from roche posay,for dandruff:
http://www.leguidesante.eu/kelual-zinc-antidandruff-treatment-lotion/products_3436.html
Hope it works!!
http://www.leguidesante.eu/kelual-zinc-antidandruff-treatment-lotion/products_3436.html
Hope it works!!
sissi- Posts : 190
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Re: My scalp is flaking terrribly Help?
thanks dude um, is there anything internally i can use. IMMORTAL or NIDHOGGE anything you would recommend?
youngbalder- Posts : 283
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Re: My scalp is flaking terrribly Help?
youngbalder - Have you tried the Lithium/DMSO rinse topical?
It has a higher efficacy in depopulating Malassezia (a fungus), which is the primary cause of scalp flaking.
The other possibility is being low on iodine.
It has a higher efficacy in depopulating Malassezia (a fungus), which is the primary cause of scalp flaking.
The other possibility is being low on iodine.
Re: My scalp is flaking terrribly Help?
The long list of possibilities:
1. Selenium Deficiency
2. Vitamine E Deficiency
3. B6 Deficiency
4. Bile Deficiency
5. Folic Acid Deficiency
6. Hyperinsulinemia
7. EFA Deficiency
8. Impaired Liver
9. Biotin Deficiency
1. Selenium Deficiency
2. Vitamine E Deficiency
3. B6 Deficiency
4. Bile Deficiency
5. Folic Acid Deficiency
6. Hyperinsulinemia
7. EFA Deficiency
8. Impaired Liver
9. Biotin Deficiency
Joejoebaggins- Posts : 302
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Re: My scalp is flaking terrribly Help?
Boy howdy...there can be a lot of things. I second IH and Joejoe there...starting with definitely the rinse.
nidhogge- Posts : 2142
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Re: My scalp is flaking terrribly Help?
Joejoebaggins - Wow my head just spun, thanks for the additional info.
Re: My scalp is flaking terrribly Help?
CausticSymmetry wrote:Joejoebaggins - Wow my head just spun, thanks for the additional info.
Haha, no problem! This has been a problem for me for a while now. Turns out it was Zinc deficiency! Caused by excess copper! A lot a lot of the deficiencies listed have a direct relation with liver health.
10. Zinc Deficiency
Joejoebaggins- Posts : 302
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Re: My scalp is flaking terrribly Help?
Damn u mean i gotta experiment with all these things oh damn. Here we go but ill definitely start lithium/dmso and see what happens. thanks for the input guys
youngbalder- Posts : 283
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Re: My scalp is flaking terrribly Help?
where can i supplement for iodine?
youngbalder- Posts : 283
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Re: My scalp is flaking terrribly Help?
youngbalder - Are you asking how to get iodine?
There's some information on iodine and sources on this page:
http://www.freewebs.com/immortalhair/physiology.htm
There's some information on iodine and sources on this page:
http://www.freewebs.com/immortalhair/physiology.htm
Re: My scalp is flaking terrribly Help?
Hi, the allergen potential of a lot of supplements is a factor whenever you take them. Krill oil, or any fish supplement can cause awful allergies for some. The same with some planty supplements. Grapeseed supplement made me flake like a big angry itchy red flaky thing. Never again! Clearly the side effects of some supplements are as bad as any manufactured drug, though even less is known about their mechanism of action.
I'd recommend taking one substance for a few weeks and testing each out one by one in the same way first to make sure. That way also you can judge a little bit better which ones are the more productive for you, and which may just be a waste of time, hair, and cash. Getting dosages right is also an issue.
As taking large doses of any substance can create new allergies (involving the body' immune reaction/overreaction/deregulation), this is important.
Cheers
Lux
I'd recommend taking one substance for a few weeks and testing each out one by one in the same way first to make sure. That way also you can judge a little bit better which ones are the more productive for you, and which may just be a waste of time, hair, and cash. Getting dosages right is also an issue.
As taking large doses of any substance can create new allergies (involving the body' immune reaction/overreaction/deregulation), this is important.
Cheers
Lux
Luxuriate- Posts : 71
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Re: My scalp is flaking terrribly Help?
Thanks man
youngbalder- Posts : 283
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Re: My scalp is flaking terrribly Help?
Drug sides are significantly more common. The difference is irreversible damage verses allergy usually. Iodine allergy is quite uncommon.
Re: My scalp is flaking terrribly Help?
You might try tea tree oil shampoo as an alternative to Nizoral. Tee trea is an anti-fungal and has been widely reported to help with a variety of skin conditions. Personally- 100% tea tree oil feels great on my scalp, and doesn't cause the dry itchiness that nizoral does. I also started using a tea tree acne wash from iherb.com and it is awsome. It gets rid of all the oil without overdrying your face. I've even washed my hair with it a few times as I'm sure it is similar to the tee trea shampoos. You can even buy a bottle of 100% tto and add it to your favorite shampoo. A little goes a long way. You might try virgin coconut oil topically and internally- another antifungal that may be the healthiest thing you can put on your skin.
Paradox- Posts : 1496
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Re: My scalp is flaking terrribly Help?
Hi CS
You mention that drug side effects are significantly more common
Thats interesting.
Do you have any research reviews to support that?
Lux
You mention that drug side effects are significantly more common
Thats interesting.
Do you have any research reviews to support that?
Lux
Luxuriate- Posts : 71
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Re: My scalp is flaking terrribly Help?
Luxuriate - The real detail is in the full study, here is only an extract (not an abstact).
http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/extract/284/4/483
As for my own experience, For years I have worked at one the largest integrative medical clinics in the northern hemisphere. Collectively, we have seen over 40,000 patients spanning 3 decades. Many of these patients come after
through examinations in some of the nations "top" clinics, such as the Mayo and Cleveland Clinics.
The heart of our protocols regardless of the condition is to eliminate as many drugs from the system as possible.
Patients get well very quickly--not because of our therapies sometimes, but simply because what we told them to stop.
There are some drugs, that sadly cannot be withdrawn or at least there are many exceptions where the patient must remain on the medication, due to potential death since preexisting conditions warrant it, such as warfarin after a valve replacement, or certain types of psychotropic drugs.
Before I get into some more examples, I will say that your sensitivity to grape seed extract is probably very similar to my same sensitivity to pycnogenol. This is definitely the exception not the rule--but it far from dangerous.
Typically, I will see a patient on a cocktail of medications who through various "specialists" have give them several medications for different reasons. This is a primary flaw in western medicine, where a primary care physician rather than treating the whole body, sends out these specialists to who are trained to look at the body as separate organ systems.
This is a major disconnect.
I could give literally thousands of examples, but just one is needed.
Usually during a health "screening" a patient has their cholesterol and blood pressure tested. So typically after a cholesterol reading above 200 is discovered (perfectly healthy by the way), the doctor puts the patient on a cholesterol lowering drug--let's say Lipitor, which is reduces liver synthesis of cholesterol. Side effects include memory loss (I can't tell you how many patients have memory loss due to these statins!), it also weakens their heart by reducing production of ATP and Co-enzyme Q10. Without Co-enzyme Q10, the "spark plug" of the heart, eventually complications down the road such as congestive heart failure can ensue. Most common side effects, about 97% of the time is rhabdomyolysis, which is a breakdown of muscles fibers, it's painful.
Then the patient's 140/100 reading on blood pressure they are prescribed a calcium channel blocker to lower it. 140/100 is perfectly healthy, especially with a pulse pressure of only 40--anyway but I digress, calcium channel blockers are deadly. I like to call them calcium cardiac killers, because that's what they do. Magnesium is never considered (there's no money in it) if you go the conventional route in a western hospital, which is a natural calcium channel blocker.
Complications include congestive heart failure, heart attacks, gastrointestinal bleeding, liver and kidney damage and much more. About 100,000 people die from these class of drugs alone, but they are popular to prescribe because they do effectively reduce blood pressure--they do not prolong life however.
That's only two drugs, but most of the patients we get, between the ages of 60 and 80 on average are usually on 6 to 14 drugs on average!
Continuing here, most of the drugs these patients take are only addressing symptoms and very often these symptoms are from some of the drugs--the cause is still ignored.
Essentially here in the west, money is first priority and the patient is dead last. This is in regard to most standard medicine. It's accepted because organizations such as the American Medical Association, the American Diabetic Association, the American Heart Association have out dated measures and really service an industry of commerce rather than the well being of the patient.
http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/extract/284/4/483
As for my own experience, For years I have worked at one the largest integrative medical clinics in the northern hemisphere. Collectively, we have seen over 40,000 patients spanning 3 decades. Many of these patients come after
through examinations in some of the nations "top" clinics, such as the Mayo and Cleveland Clinics.
The heart of our protocols regardless of the condition is to eliminate as many drugs from the system as possible.
Patients get well very quickly--not because of our therapies sometimes, but simply because what we told them to stop.
There are some drugs, that sadly cannot be withdrawn or at least there are many exceptions where the patient must remain on the medication, due to potential death since preexisting conditions warrant it, such as warfarin after a valve replacement, or certain types of psychotropic drugs.
Before I get into some more examples, I will say that your sensitivity to grape seed extract is probably very similar to my same sensitivity to pycnogenol. This is definitely the exception not the rule--but it far from dangerous.
Typically, I will see a patient on a cocktail of medications who through various "specialists" have give them several medications for different reasons. This is a primary flaw in western medicine, where a primary care physician rather than treating the whole body, sends out these specialists to who are trained to look at the body as separate organ systems.
This is a major disconnect.
I could give literally thousands of examples, but just one is needed.
Usually during a health "screening" a patient has their cholesterol and blood pressure tested. So typically after a cholesterol reading above 200 is discovered (perfectly healthy by the way), the doctor puts the patient on a cholesterol lowering drug--let's say Lipitor, which is reduces liver synthesis of cholesterol. Side effects include memory loss (I can't tell you how many patients have memory loss due to these statins!), it also weakens their heart by reducing production of ATP and Co-enzyme Q10. Without Co-enzyme Q10, the "spark plug" of the heart, eventually complications down the road such as congestive heart failure can ensue. Most common side effects, about 97% of the time is rhabdomyolysis, which is a breakdown of muscles fibers, it's painful.
Then the patient's 140/100 reading on blood pressure they are prescribed a calcium channel blocker to lower it. 140/100 is perfectly healthy, especially with a pulse pressure of only 40--anyway but I digress, calcium channel blockers are deadly. I like to call them calcium cardiac killers, because that's what they do. Magnesium is never considered (there's no money in it) if you go the conventional route in a western hospital, which is a natural calcium channel blocker.
Complications include congestive heart failure, heart attacks, gastrointestinal bleeding, liver and kidney damage and much more. About 100,000 people die from these class of drugs alone, but they are popular to prescribe because they do effectively reduce blood pressure--they do not prolong life however.
That's only two drugs, but most of the patients we get, between the ages of 60 and 80 on average are usually on 6 to 14 drugs on average!
Continuing here, most of the drugs these patients take are only addressing symptoms and very often these symptoms are from some of the drugs--the cause is still ignored.
Essentially here in the west, money is first priority and the patient is dead last. This is in regard to most standard medicine. It's accepted because organizations such as the American Medical Association, the American Diabetic Association, the American Heart Association have out dated measures and really service an industry of commerce rather than the well being of the patient.
Re: My scalp is flaking terrribly Help?
thanks i will look into int
youngbalder- Posts : 283
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Re: My scalp is flaking terrribly Help?
You have to make a distinction between a flakey dry scalp, and a flaky dry scalp with brittle hair that falls out with
visible thining or receding places.
The latter is untreated MPB, or with a regimen that is not working.
If you take the standard top 6 or even just top 3, adding just Probiotics 12 plus and Magnesium orotate, can kickstart the regimen.
visible thining or receding places.
The latter is untreated MPB, or with a regimen that is not working.
If you take the standard top 6 or even just top 3, adding just Probiotics 12 plus and Magnesium orotate, can kickstart the regimen.
Amaranthaceae- Posts : 1368
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Re: My scalp is flaking terrribly Help?
Thanks CS but it doesn't seem to apply to me. I don't live in the US. I have heard of the overkill culture there though.
I know a lot of drugs have side effects, but I also know you can overdose on all sorts of other things, including food.
As a complementary therapy user I would always want the highest level of information to make a decision. I still don't see any evidence to say medical drugs have more side effects than any measurably effective treatments.
Even placebo has side effects if the doc sets it up that way:) Confidence levels are everything in my book!
I know a lot of drugs have side effects, but I also know you can overdose on all sorts of other things, including food.
As a complementary therapy user I would always want the highest level of information to make a decision. I still don't see any evidence to say medical drugs have more side effects than any measurably effective treatments.
Even placebo has side effects if the doc sets it up that way:) Confidence levels are everything in my book!
Luxuriate- Posts : 71
Join date : 2008-07-25
Re: My scalp is flaking terrribly Help?
Hey guys ok so ive stopped using all supplements and topicals since the las time ive posted to try and correct my flaky scalp. IH i took your advice and used the lithium/dmso shampo mix. Ive been using it for three days and i have not seen any improvement. When i stopped using the IH 6 there was an initial improvement but from switching from nizoral to Lithium/dmso shampoo mix had different effect. Before i start picking apart the IH regimen which is causing to me have serious flaky scalp, i need get this problem fixed. Ive also noticed while itching my scalp the my falls as well which is definitely not good.Any more insight you guys can give me will be appreciated.
youngbalder- Posts : 283
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Re: My scalp is flaking terrribly Help?
*hair falls out
youngbalder- Posts : 283
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Anyone? IH? Nidhogge?
youngbalder- Posts : 283
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Re: My scalp is flaking terrribly Help?
Young balder --
Have you seen a dermatologist yet about this? You could have a different type of hair loss that is not male pattern hair loss and might need to be diagnosed.
At the very least, get it checked out and let us all know what they say.
You don't have to take what they prescribe/give you, but you want to make sure you're dealing with male pattern baldness and not something different that causes hair to fall out.
As for knocking out inflammation topically, IH's topical worked for me and cut out a lot of scalp inflammation. Nizoral also has helped me with the kind of inflammation you described.
However, I would still get it looked at to rule out something different than garden variety male pattern baldness.
Have you seen a dermatologist yet about this? You could have a different type of hair loss that is not male pattern hair loss and might need to be diagnosed.
At the very least, get it checked out and let us all know what they say.
You don't have to take what they prescribe/give you, but you want to make sure you're dealing with male pattern baldness and not something different that causes hair to fall out.
As for knocking out inflammation topically, IH's topical worked for me and cut out a lot of scalp inflammation. Nizoral also has helped me with the kind of inflammation you described.
However, I would still get it looked at to rule out something different than garden variety male pattern baldness.
hadrion- Posts : 776
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Re: My scalp is flaking terrribly Help?
Promox contains retin-a, some people can't handle it and will cause flaking and peeling.
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