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Post  MikeGore Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:37 am

I currently have the most terrible pain all over my body, but mostly in the lower back. But it's so bad I couldn't even sit still. I do have a fever as well 37.1 Celsius, so the pain I feel all over my body but mainly in the lower spine seems related. Probably my body is going through it's detox cycle, but I am in agony at the moment and I don't like doctors. I honestly feel like I need a prescription level pain killer, to stop this unending pain.

Is there anything that comes close to prescription pain killers in the natural supplements or herbs?

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Post  CausticSymmetry Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:27 am

MikeGore wrote:I currently have the most terrible pain all over my body, but mostly in the lower back. But it's so bad I couldn't even sit still. I do have a fever as  well 37.1 Celsius, so the pain I feel all over my body but mainly in the lower spine seems related. Probably my body is going through it's detox cycle, but I am in agony at the moment and I don't like doctors. I honestly feel like I need a prescription level pain killer, to stop this unending pain.

Is there anything that comes close to prescription pain killers in the natural supplements or herbs?

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Post  shaftless Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:43 am

Go to a doctor or hospital emergency room...or at least ask a pharmacist what can help

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Post  shaftless Fri Jan 28, 2022 5:03 am

It could be your gallbladder or appendicitis or kidney stones...get it checked out

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Post  MikeGore Sun Jan 30, 2022 4:17 am

Ordered the kratom. Coming from another country seems like it will take a bit of time before it arrives.

I was worried for a moment that it was the kidney stones, but the pain is not located on the kidneys.

The pain started from the lower back, too low for the kidneys, but then also started feeling pain in my legs and shoulder blades.

The only thing that reduces the pain is applying heat, such as a hot water bottle.

I think this might be fibromyalgia. I wasn't even very sure what that was until now, but reading on it's definition it sounds like that's what I am feeling.

Is it normal to have fibromyalgia symptoms during a flu(or as I would like to call it detox cycle)?

It's been at least five days and the pain is still there albeit, shifting location it. And the pain can go and then come back.

I was thinking, why does the heat help? It's probably because it increases blood flow, which got me thinking, why is my blood not flowing as well before this pain started. So maybe my blood has become thicker, which means high fibrin. So I am thinking to take nattokinase and serrapeptase, also co-enzyme q10.

Another thing that happened today, I started taking MMS drinking a cup every hour(that is 3 drops activated per hour). And then also filled the bath and put MMS in the bath tub as well to soak in it. I did this with the hope to aid the detoxification cycle that I believed my body is going through. I'm also intermittent fasting(have been eating once a day) so not sure if that contributed.

After I got out of the tub, I felt dizzy, nauseous and collapsed to the floor. I guess I must have been hyperventilating since my hands curled up, and was numb all over, hardly able to move or speak. I laid there on the bathroom floor perhaps 20 minutes before I was able to recover and get up.

Very unpleasant thing to go through. It also seems the sudden movement from laying down in the tub to standing up might have also contributed, but still that shouldn't happen. I have been having a lot of anxiety lately, so everything combined I guess.

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Post  shaftless Sun Jan 30, 2022 4:29 pm

I'd still go to your regular doctor or a walk-in clinic...but if you think you have fibromyalgia Sam-e (s-adenosyl methionine) supplements might help. It sounds pretty serious if you collapsed on the floor. Don't experiment too much.

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Post  MikeGore Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:19 am

I need to wait for my Day 8 of self-isolation since I recently travelled. I'd rather be ready and not have any Covid test done in the clinic or hospital. Perhaps then I can think of getting checked up.

My pain nightmare is still going on though and I don't understand what brought this on.

Pain can shift from one location to another, predominantly the lower spine, but even experienced it today in the inguinal area near the groin.

I'm thinking I need to get some tests done. This feels like a parasite moving in my nerves or something, if such a thing is possible. There are so many panels available. Most parasite tests I googled seem to focus in the gut, but how can they test for something in the blood or nerves? Which tests should I do? Is there any point in taking tests/doing a virus panel anymore for things like herpes etc? What are they finding, my exosomes? Can herpes cause such pain?

Btw, I ordered SAM-e, and using Iodine too, as I heard these are good for fibromyalgia.

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Post  CausticSymmetry Mon Jan 31, 2022 1:44 pm

Tests for the fake virus = No need, just perpetuates the scam.

Tests for parasites, lots of false negatives.

Why not just use Ivermectin?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC6210064/

Also anti-inflammatory effects.


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Post  shaftless Mon Jan 31, 2022 3:32 pm

It's possible that your kidneys stones is acting up again. Google lists these symptoms for stones....

People also ask
How do I know if I have kidney stones?

What are the symptoms of a kidney stone?

Pain in the back, belly, or side. ...
Pain or burning during urination. ...
Urgent need to go. ...
Blood in the urine. ...
Cloudy or smelly urine. ...
Going a small amount at a time. ...
Nausea and vomiting. ...
Fever and chills.

Even though the pain keeps moving around for you it may not matter...and you had fatigue and fever. It also might be covid too. There's a lot of fatigue and fever and muscle aches associated with it as well.

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Post  CausticSymmetry Mon Jan 31, 2022 3:52 pm

Kidney stone treatment is easy if you know where to go. Magnesium IV push.


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Post  JoeP Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:11 am

CausticSymmetry wrote:Kidney stone treatment is easy if you know where to go. Magnesium IV push.

I have a kidney stone that's been growing, how much magnesium should be pushed and how many times would it need to be repeated? I haven't been able to locate any local places that just do magnesium pushes with a quick search, would a Myers cocktail work?

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Post  CausticSymmetry Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:51 am

JoeP wrote:
CausticSymmetry wrote:Kidney stone treatment is easy if you know where to go. Magnesium IV push.

I have a kidney stone that's been growing, how much magnesium should be pushed and how many times would it need to be repeated? I haven't been able to locate any local places that just do magnesium pushes with a quick search, would a Myers cocktail work?

Myers cocktail would be better than nothing. Really any place should be able to do it.

Some 8 years ago I wrote this: A DIY:

https://web.archive.org/web/20180313051456/http://longevitypost.com/treat-prevent-kidney-stones/

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Post  MikeGore Wed Feb 02, 2022 2:57 am

Is it possible for CB-03-01(7.5 %) to cause back pain or fibromyalgia? Early November I had started using it and used it until 7th of January 2022 daily. I didn't experience any pain or side effects during that time. I started experiencing pain from the 26th of January 2022.

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Post  JoeP Wed Feb 02, 2022 5:13 am

CausticSymmetry wrote:
JoeP wrote:
CausticSymmetry wrote:Kidney stone treatment is easy if you know where to go. Magnesium IV push.

I have a kidney stone that's been growing, how much magnesium should be pushed and how many times would it need to be repeated? I haven't been able to locate any local places that just do magnesium pushes with a quick search, would a Myers cocktail work?

Myers cocktail would be better than nothing. Really any place should be able to do it.

Some 8 years ago I wrote this:  A DIY:

https://web.archive.org/web/20180313051456/http://longevitypost.com/treat-prevent-kidney-stones/

I don't want to hijack the topic, but are there any other supplements you recommend for kidneys that are struggling? Thanks.

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Post  CausticSymmetry Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:56 am

Depends on the issue

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Post  MikeGore Wed Feb 02, 2022 10:16 pm

Well started coughing now so seems like the flu symptoms but with severe body pain targetting the lower back. I don't want to go to the Doctor. But really worried. What kind of flu makes pain all over the body? Very strong pain.

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Post  Cat with a Hat Thu Feb 03, 2022 4:30 am

MikeGore wrote:Well started coughing now so seems like the flu symptoms but with severe body pain targetting the lower back. I don't want to go to the Doctor. But really worried. What kind of flu makes pain all over the body? Very strong pain.

Go to the doctor dude, it could be serious.

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Post  shaftless Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:44 am

Yes, at least get their opinion on the matter. You don't have to follow thru with any prescription medicine if you don't want to, but you can take it as a last resort. Modern medicine has kept you alive up to this point so give them a chance. Besides, I'm dying to know what they think it is.

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Post  MikeGore Thu Feb 03, 2022 10:58 am

I went to do doctor, and he said my symptoms sound like Covid. Ended up doing a PCR test and came back positive. I'm not content with this however, and will still need to do blood tests to find out why the heck this pain is happening.

I don't understand, if all this is just detox, why is it so strong and painful?

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Post  shaftless Thu Feb 03, 2022 2:26 pm

Good thing you went. Hopefully it doesn't enter your lungs too much. Muscle aches are common for covid. One website says this...

"Unusual muscle pains can be an early symptom of COVID-19, often appearing at the very start of the illness. Usually, it lasts for an average of two to three days but can take longer to go away the older you are. Mar 29, 2021"


I take Chaga mushroom supplements you can get at any health store or pharmacy. Supposedly it boosts your killer t and b cells to kill off invaders. I'm hoping this works for me since I'm equally terrified of the vaccines as I am of covid.

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Post  CausticSymmetry Thu Feb 03, 2022 3:43 pm

Sadly, figured it would be a waste of time, since many hospitals are not doing real science or diagnostic work.

Often times an out patient clinic might be more productive.

PCR = pointless.

No viruses exist.

Supernatant is mixed with RNA.

Virology is not a science, it is directed against science. Fraud in science has been documented by virologists in all scientific publications on the example of reporting the results of experiments that have never been conducted, for example of non-existent C0NV!D-19 and non-existent sars-cov-2.

Virologists transparently abuse the basic principles of molecular biology and experimental biochemistry. Virologists
are engaged in reporting the results of the existence of extraction, detection, sequencing of specific alleged "viral"
RNA bio-molecules.

However, virologists have never conducted such experiments. In order for specific RNA to be extracted, purified from a
particles, isolation and purification of the suspicious particles must first be performed. The alleged suspicious particles must be isolated and purified from other particles.

However, virologists do not implement the above and thus deceive themselves as well as the public.
Virologists use the term: "Isolation in cell cultures". This involves creating a mixture of RNA originating from a human
and/or monkey, bacteria, cow (calf).

Virologists never talk about extracting RNA from a "virus" but from alleged “viral lysate”, “virus isolate”,
“primary isolate”, cell culture supernatant or from a sample without cell cultures (swab, balf) and all of that is the
aforementioned mixture of RNA.


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