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Post  Turgius Thu Sep 04, 2014 6:39 am

Anyone here know of an effective treatment for Myofascial pain syndrome or (MPS). There is apparently no issue with the TMJ and I seem to be in a racket ball match between specialists wish has lasted the last 2 years. Iv been through having a dental apparatus made for bruxism and sleep apnea to dry needling.
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Post  CausticSymmetry Thu Sep 04, 2014 10:08 am

Yes, check out the treatment using Preconception. Using this type of therapy is probably where to find relief.


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Post  manofmanytrades Thu Sep 04, 2014 4:28 pm

Where are your trigger points?  Which areas? Just the jaw...?

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Post  Turgius Thu Sep 04, 2014 11:41 pm

Just the Jaw, sort of on both sides, however the muscle weirdness (cracking and stiffness) seems to centered in the right masseter and around the right ear to the point it seems to be keeping the tubs open too far. Every now and then I here this weird crack then soothing sound, flowed by a strange gliding sensation and the feeling the ear is out of place. ?Even after a MRI there still seems to be answers beyond 'it's Myofascial pain.' Its almost feels as if the masseter is pulled back farther than it should be. Dry needling seems to make it better temporarily. It all started after having chiropractic neck adjustments 2 years ago. So hopefully that sort of answers your questions.
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Post  manofmanytrades Tue Sep 09, 2014 12:58 pm

Ive fully recovered from fibromyalgia, including scores of trigger points all over my body, so I know a little about them.  MPS just basically means pain in the fascia, and there can be dozens of patterns and causes for that.  With it just being in the jaw it sounds fairly localized.  Id highly recommend looking at prolotherapy or prp.  Four years before I resolved all of my trigger points I had prolotherapy done in many areas of the body with little to no success, except for one area- the jaw.  One or two injections (i cant remember which) actually fixed the tmj.  The others areas were later also fixed with prolotherapy, but it took several years of restoring my body's 'healing systems' before it really worked well and stayed corrected (with fibromyalgia the body's healing and immune systems are offline).  Dr. Reeves in kansas city, and other dr's around the world have done some quality small scale studies, expenses out of pocket, that show very promising results for many different myofascial conditions, including tmj, if you feel like looking them up.  Even a few dentists are providing it now. My personal opinion is that it worked so well even the big pharma is having trouble denying it, especially considering some big name sports players have had it done for different things. Basically they inject either dextrose or blood platelets into targeted areas of tissue to attract growth factors and heal and tighten the ligament or tendon.  Ligaments are rich with nerves but also heal poorly.  Considering you think a chiropractic adjustment might have caused it this would make sense- occasionally youll hear of high velocity adjustments doing that. Ligaments are sort of like rubber bands- once over stretched they often arent always quite the same. The nerves in the ligaments are then also chronically stretched, causing pain, or at the very least, instability.  BTW some of the scalenes in the neck attach at the angle of the jaw- Besides the chiropractic adjustment, any history of head or neck trauma, such as a car wreck? If you search on here I also have another post somewhere on this forum about this stuff.  One other thing to consider might be tooth infection.  You wouldnt feel pain if the infection was in the jaw bone at an old removal site, yet the nerves would still be irritated, and there's lots of innervation in the face and jaw.  Merely speculation on my part, but something to consider.

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Post  Zaphod Tue Sep 09, 2014 3:20 pm

nice post manofmanytrades.

I wonder what would prolotherapy do to your hair, since there were kind of success using botox, which is otherwise a poison.

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Post  manofmanytrades Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:53 am

PRP is sometimes advertised for scars and hair, I'm waiting for more feedback before dropping money on it

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Post  Turgius Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:03 am

manofmanytrades wrote:Ive fully recovered from fibromyalgia, including scores of trigger points all over my body, so I know a little about them.  MPS just basically means pain in the fascia, and there can be dozens of patterns and causes for that.  With it just being in the jaw it sounds fairly localized.  Id highly recommend looking at prolotherapy or prp.  Four years before I resolved all of my trigger points I had prolotherapy done in many areas of the body with little to no success, except for one area- the jaw.  One or two injections (i cant remember which) actually fixed the tmj.  The others areas were later also fixed with prolotherapy, but it took several years of restoring my body's 'healing systems' before it really worked well and stayed corrected (with fibromyalgia the body's healing and immune systems are offline).  Dr. Reeves in kansas city, and other dr's around the world have done some quality small scale studies, expenses out of pocket, that show very promising results for many different myofascial conditions, including tmj, if you feel like looking them up.  Even a few dentists are providing it now.  My personal opinion is that it worked so well even the big pharma is having trouble denying it, especially considering some big name sports players have had it done for different things.  Basically they inject either dextrose or blood platelets into targeted areas of tissue to attract growth factors and heal and tighten the ligament or tendon.  Ligaments are rich with nerves but also heal poorly.  Considering you think a chiropractic adjustment might have caused it this would make sense- occasionally youll hear of high velocity adjustments doing that. Ligaments are sort of like rubber bands- once over stretched they often arent always quite the same. The nerves in the ligaments are then also chronically stretched, causing pain, or at the very least, instability.  BTW some of the scalenes in the neck attach at the angle of the jaw- Besides the chiropractic adjustment, any history of head or neck trauma, such as a car wreck? If you search on here I also have another post somewhere on this forum about this stuff.  One other thing to consider might be tooth infection.  You wouldnt feel pain if the infection was in the jaw bone at an old removal site, yet the nerves would still be irritated, and there's lots of innervation in the face and jaw.  Merely speculation on my part, but something to consider.

How did you restore your body's ''healing systems'', it's almost like there is now limited functionality in muscle response on one side compared to the other...and the muscles around the Gums seem to be inflamed as well. as to that last part I was hit by a airbag when I was 9 in a 2 one one collision involving a drunk driver...
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