Been taking 8grams MSM and 4 grams Vit C daily for 2 years. Is it safe?

Thoughts? CS? Just want to make sure what Im doing is safe. I dont feel any side effects, but wanted to run it by the forum.

Without sulfur we would die.

The problem is anyone who isn't taking it is probably sulfur deficient.

We can "thank" big agriculture for destroying the soils (using petrochemical based NPK) and
the herbicides which further deplete necessary nutrients, especially sulfur from plants and animals.

It's more than safe...it's necessary if you're interested in being healthy.

It was until i went 4+g a day of MSM until i noticed anything beneficial. Add another essential minerals and trace minerals with a vitamin C and there will probably be even more winning situations...

Still dont know if there is any synergy between vitamin C and MSM if taken one after the other.

Have you been able to monitor or notice any results from this combo? I take both at similar dosages a bit higher on the C but lately I'm leary of the absorption rate of Vit C as I've read some information citing 18% absorption rate (I use 100% pure Vitamin C Crystals as Ascorbic Acid). Any comments on this CS? I know you recommend the Pureway tech. which I've had and are great but where does just plain Vitamin C Crystals stand?

NYJets wrote:Have you been able to monitor or notice any results from this combo? I take both at similar dosages a bit higher on the C but lately I'm leary of the absorption rate of Vit C as I've read some information citing 18% absorption rate (I use 100% pure Vitamin C Crystals as Ascorbic Acid). Any comments on this CS? I know you recommend the Pureway tech. which I've had and are great but where does just plain Vitamin C Crystals stand?

Either kind is fine.

Using a pure vitamin C, such as the crystals might be a better idea, especially if taken together (with MSM). The reason is fillers.

In my case, I take the metabolic C, only because I take it separately at totally different times than the MSM.
The metabolic C has about a 6-hour half-life. That's really its only advantage. Unfortunately, it is not without some type of filler, which may render MSM less effective.

Thx CS. Do you agree with the idea that the stomach acid alters the vitamin C Crystals making the effective dose much lower than intended?

NYJets wrote:Thx CS. Do you agree with the idea that the stomach acid alters the vitamin C Crystals making the effective dose much lower than intended?

I'm not certain. However, taking MSM 30 minutes or more before taking any supplement improves the action of those supplements.

Beebrox wrote:It was until i went 4+g a day of MSM until i noticed anything beneficial. Add another essential minerals and trace minerals with a vitamin C and there will probably be even more winning situations...

Still dont know if there is any synergy between vitamin C and MSM if taken one after the other.

Hi, what benefits did you notice when you went to 4+ grams of MSM?

Thanks

Elmo, I"m not the Beeb but I have been taking large doses of MSM (12g or more per day) for a little over a month now.  It seems to have diminished my scalp shedding, and my skin quality seems to be better.  A bit tauter, more naturally moist.  The color of my skin has also improved, more like when I was younger.  To use a hackneyed expression, skin color used to be kind of like porcelain, like a fine yellowish bone china, and that seems to be coming back a bit.  The color's just better.  Hard to explain.

Beware if you start taking MSM, especially if you take CS's advice and take pure powder with no fillers on an empty stomach, you may have a detox reaction.  I sure did.  Kind of brutal.  Took a few weeks but it's good now.

I've used organic gold standard MSM crystals for about a half a year now, ran out a few weeks ago so it's definitely on the "replenish" list... probably a good product for us to carry for folks in the future.

Anyway, I'm just about 30 days in on a raw, organic, vegetarian diet combined with the DHerbs.com Full Body Detox and, subsequently, the blood/lymphatic detox on their site, and the results are nothing short of ASTOUNDING. Zero shedding, skin is nearly glowing, hair growing in quicker and thicker, tons of energy, less lactic acid and more stamina in the gym, stubborn fat shed away... this is the way to live right here. The higher the vibration of the molecules in the food that you consume ("light" is the highest vibration of energy, so you want to get as close to light as possible since we are, technically, light beings), and this includes sunlight, then the higher you will vibrate. Lower density foods would include meats (you consume the chemicals, emotions, hormones, and antibiotics of the slaughtered creatures), dairy, processed foods and sugars.

Juicing is *phenomenal* for your health... I make 2 to 3 fresh juices a day.

You don't notice anything special, but when you run out of it, you start to crave it soon. I notice more hydrated skin, better morning breath, more energy and it's sort of amplifier for whatever else i am taking as it influence permeability of ingested substances trough the cell membrane (in and out). I suspect it's also great and gentle as a detox component also, as i don't experience any headaches anymore while taking (enough of) it, the trigger was MSM itself. I made also some serious joint flexibility improvement since i am taking it. Yoga component seem important here as well. No miracles but great supp for the money, if taken in quantities enough hard to ignore. I am waiting for next delivery, and i will be taking it sever table spoons (n x 5g) daily. Will see if liposomal vitamin C contributes something worth not ignoring also...

I've noticed increased hair thickness after a while of consuming MSM on a daily basis... I love the stuff.

whodathunkit wrote:Elmo, I"m not the Beeb but I have been taking large doses of MSM (12g or more per day) for a little over a month now.  It seems to have diminished my scalp shedding, and my skin quality seems to be better.  A bit tauter, more naturally moist.  The color of my skin has also improved, more like when I was younger.  To use a hackneyed expression, skin color used to be kind of like porcelain, like a fine yellowish bone china, and that seems to be coming back a bit.  The color's just better.  Hard to explain.

Beware if you start taking MSM, especially if you take CS's advice and take pure powder with no fillers on an empty stomach, you may have a detox reaction.  I sure did.  Kind of brutal.  Took a few weeks but it's good now.

Hi, that's interesting.... What kind of detox reactions did you get?

Elmo, I got headache, flu symptoms, symptoms of severe cold, fever, etc.  Little nausea, too.  All symptoms of detox that I've experienced before doing other regimens (juice fasting, iodine, methylfolate, etc.) The MSM symptoms got better the more water I drank, especially the headaches.  For about a week I was drinking 1.5 gallons of water per day.  What surprised me was how little I urinated compared to how much water I was drinking.  But even with some alleviation of symptoms with increased water consump, I was still pretty sick for a week and kind of dragging ass for the week or two after that.   But everything's fine now.

This might not happen to everyone.  Just throwing it out there as a possibility so no one who gets a reaction like this gets scared off of what I now consider to be a great, must-take supplement.

whodathunkit wrote:Elmo, I got headache, flu symptoms, symptoms of severe cold, fever, etc.  Little nausea, too.  All symptoms of detox that I've experienced before doing other regimens (juice fasting, iodine, methylfolate, etc.) The MSM symptoms got better the more water I drank, especially the headaches.  For about a week I was drinking 1.5 gallons of water per day.  What surprised me was how little I urinated compared to how much water I was drinking.  But even with some alleviation of symptoms with increased water consump, I was still pretty sick for a week and kind of dragging ass for the week or two after that.   But everything's fine now.

This might not happen to everyone.  Just throwing it out there as a possibility so no one who gets a reaction like this gets scared off of what I now consider to be a great, must-take supplement.

Hmmm..... Thats interesting about the water... Strange. I'll bear all that in mind. Thanks. The only thing I noticed with MSM was it gave me bad sweat, foul smelling stuff. I thought it was just detox but it went on for weeks. But that was with MSM in pill form made by Natures way (1000mg) I hacve just ordered MRM MSM crystals from iherb so hopefully that will be better.

So you really feel that MSM stopped your shedding?

And did you find that it made your hair thicker?

Cheers

I have a long and sorted history with MSM....ultimately it ended well.

Before the Internet, I only had books to go on and most of the time, important details were left out.

So trying different concoctions of MSM over a period of years often did nothing...until about 2 years ago.

Before I get to the point, some back ground might be important.

I had an unusual number of people telling me how MSM changed their lives.....I didn't have a clue why, because
many people did not respond and others did.

There's two things that really matter with MSM

It cannot come from capsules or tablets (these binding agents will impede it from doing everything)

Also, it cannot come with additives (which are often obscured or not told).

It should be in crystal form only. Not powders, tablets or capsules.

The dose has to be high, drink plenty of water. The more bitter it tastes (and it does taste bitter), the more you actually need it. The taste will become more tolerable in time. This stuff is a critical element of life that agriculture and all of its "wisdom" took away with petrochemical fertilizers. It will allow all the other supplements used for hair loss to work better.

http://www.iherb.com/MRM-MSM-Crystals-Maximum-Potency-200-g/41347?=hil335

CS, do you think that people with certain issues (snps, gut flora issues, or whatever) might be less sensitive to MSM?  I ask because I know people who have had results with apparently "garden variety" MSM, taking it with food, non-specific quality, capsules, etc.  But like you I never had any results from it until I tried your brand your way.  I basically quit bothering with it because it was zip for me.  But now I'm like wow, wish I'd been doing this for about 10 years longer than I have been.

Also, did you get a detox from it when you first started taking it?

Incidentally, I'm experimenting with some OptiMSM flakes, pure, they dissolve in water so there's no apparent filler, they taste like ass just like they're supposed to, but I don't think it's as good as the MRM powder.   Of course that may be because the initial "wow" period is over and also because I've reduced dosage (was taking two tablespoons per day, now only one).  Have you tried flakes?  OptiMSM?

whodathunkit - I agree with your thoughts on all counts. I think that is it exactly.

As far as "Opti" version, it contains hidden additives.

There are benefits to even the "crap" stuff, however the scar/fibrosis benefits will not exist unless it's in the
correct form.

CS, so this one isnt as good as the one you linked?
http://www.iherb.com/Jarrow-Formulas-MSM-Powder-35-3-oz-1000-g/344#p=1&oos=1&disc=0&lc=en-US&w=msm&rc=424&sr=null&ic=12

Thats the one I have atm, I will def buy the MSM you linked if its better.

Elessar wrote:CS, so this one isnt as good as the one you linked?
http://www.iherb.com/Jarrow-Formulas-MSM-Powder-35-3-oz-1000-g/344#p=1&oos=1&disc=0&lc=en-US&w=msm&rc=424&sr=null&ic=12

Thats the one I have atm, I will def buy the MSM you linked if its better.

The one you linked is OPTI MSM (read the label). Almost all the major brands use optiMSM, which is not pure; it has flow agents and such.

NDW,
Thanks alot man, will continue taking this brand until I get the MSM crystals

CausticSymmetry wrote:I have a long and sorted history with MSM....ultimately it ended well.

Before the Internet, I only had books to go on and most of the time, important details were left out.

So trying different concoctions of MSM over a period of years often did nothing...until about 2 years ago.

Before I get to the point, some back ground might be important.

I had an unusual number of people telling me how MSM changed their lives.....I didn't have a clue why, because
many people did not respond and others did.

There's two things that really matter with MSM

It cannot come from capsules or tablets (these binding agents will impede it from doing everything)

Also, it cannot come with additives (which are often obscured or not told).

It should be in crystal form only. Not powders, tablets or capsules.

The dose has to be high, drink plenty of water. The more bitter it tastes (and it does taste bitter), the more you actually need it. The taste will become more tolerable in time. This stuff is a critical element of life that agriculture and all of its "wisdom" took away with petrochemical fertilizers. It will allow all the other supplements used for hair loss to work better.

http://www.iherb.com/MRM-MSM-Crystals-Maximum-Potency-200-g/41347?=hil335

Hi, what benefits have you noticed from taking MSM?

Thanks

Effects of sulfur (MSM crystals) will be different in everybody. The main interest with it is that is essentially a missing element that allows cellular regeneration and oxygenation and detoxification.

CS, in your opinion is there any harm in staying at an elevated dose (like a couple tablespoons per day) for a while?

whodathunkit wrote:CS, in your opinion is there any harm in staying at an elevated dose (like a couple tablespoons per day) for a while?

There's no risk.

A study was conducted, which was taking the equivalent dose of a full 200 gram tub per day. There was no harm.