Movie Genetic Roulette Free Online Sept. 15-22

Thanks to Ivan for this.

This link go stright to the 1.5 hr movie.
http://geneticroulettemovie.com/



A picture says a thousand words.
Thanks to John for this.

thanks for the link there, ive all ready watched half of it. scary stuff what is happening especially with so many foods containing corn in some form and mostly the GM version....

Yup. What's scary is that most processed food has one or more genetically modified ingredients in it in the US. That most are too addicted to the processed food to give it up.

how are you supposed to feed 7 billion people on the planet without using genetically modified food? The practice itself is not evil, it's mainly just consumers who feed themselves with poor diet

Moby,

You're right. You can't. As medical technology and sanitization allow us to live longer and longer lives, the demand of our growing population will outweigh what we can naturally get from the environment (unless we find some sustainable mechanism by which to do so). This is depopulation. Plain and simple. Depopulation in a modern age won't come from concentration camps or systematic outright murder. It will be subtle and insidious. Just examine the aspects of the food supply that have been tainted:

1) Water fluoridated
2) Vegetables and Fruits (pesticides, genetic modification)
3) Animal Products (hormones, antibiotics, sickness from eating an unnatural diet of grain, mold)
4) Iodine essentially removed from the food supply
5) Almost all necessary minerals are depleted in generic animal products
6) Pharma pushed on us from healthcare providers

I hate to be a conspiracy theorist, but I don't think it is one. I think its going on in broad day light. Cut us off from that which sustains life and convince us we're doing better than ever. After a few generations when men can no longer impregnate a woman and women can't bear children, then we'll say hmmm. If you look at the elite of the world, it would be interesting to know exactly where their food comes from, what types of food they're eating, and what type of healthcare they're receiving. I'd be willing to bet most elite of the world aren't feeding their families the shit that's being pushed in your local grocery store, many times being advertised to children so as to influence the parents through that route of cognition.

The practice itself is evil and done without proper respect for the consequences. The idea of GE crops saving third world nations is just a dialogue of guilt that frankly doesn't exist. It's the same old "white man justifying doing ____ because it's gonna save ____" but it's a made up story. It's the same as believing the in :the terrorists" that are coming to get us all. Patriotic/cultural dialogue to justify doing stupid things.The need for the food is there but GE crops are not the answer.
The Rhodale institute just finished their 20 year study last year (the longest most comprehensive study ever done on the subject btw) and found that GE crops consistently underperformed traditional crops and methods by about a third in terms of yield even during seasons of drought and flood (which is supposed to be their strength). there was those thousands of South American Farmers that committed suicide after they were forced and essentially blackmailed into using monsanto crops which failed, so they drank the pesticide and killed themselves after their crops failed. Its still happening too. I believe the stat is that about every 30 mns a farmer does this based on the numbers over that past few years.

If you do the research you'll find that it's a total smoke screen used to justify the patenting of genetic material and increasingly monopolize the food supply. I did MASSIVE paper digging through all the latest academic articles and the bottom line is these foods haven't proven to do what they say and present MASSIVE risks to people and the ecosystem, risks that aren't being given their due respect. When you look into why the proper precautions aren't being taken it all comes back to money and companies like monsanto getting their former employees into positions of power and aggressively silencing opposition.

In Canada Health Canada's own Stat (or last year at least) was that %98 of the items on shelves that are not produce contain GE sourced ingredients. The guidelines that are required to get these foods on the market and get the feeds given to animals is pathetically short (often less than a month) and many independent scientific studies have been done under similar conditions and show things like organ enlargement and damage to DNA in as little as 90 days.
They also now know that the pesticides used DO make it into the meat you eat and there was a study out of Quebec where they found traces of the pesticides used by local farmers on crops that went into animal feed in %80 of the placentas of pregnant mothers in surrounding areas where they lived on the food. The chemicals are known to cause birth defects which can often be severe.

All this doesn't even BEGIN to touch of the stupidity of introducing untested man made plant life into the ecosystem.

That's just the tip of the iceberg too. A topic that ought to get WAY more attention in society, but there's a reason it doesn't. It gets TONS of attention and is a HUGE deal but its kept quiet because if you really look at it, we're being sent down the river without a paddle. Please don't propagate the "GE foods will save the starving masses" lie.

*written in a rush, at work, but needed to get my rant out*

Anthony- Agreed just look at John Holdron, Obama's science adviser and a published believer in eugenics as well as some pretty insane stuff about population control. Look into it is you haven't pretty interesting how inflammatory things come into focus for the media but it only ever goes so far. Certain things are beyond the scope of the accepted pageantry.

This is CAPITALISM, not a conspiracy. What good is a weak population of your country in a global world?

I don't think its about strengthening a population, I think its about eugenics for eugenics sake. We just changed the terms. Eugenics became a taboo word, but it is certainly still going on, on a massive scale. Look at the Georgia Guidestones: maintain humanity under 500,000,000. The Rockefeller Foundation has been used for all of the U.S. eugenics research in order to disguise it, and if you think we weren't learning from/sharing information with the Germans during WWII, you're wrong. Its about a hubristic group of elite trying to steer our entire species in the direction they see fit, simply because they are in the power position and have the resources and leverage to do so. I mean, think about it though. Part of the philosophy has its merits. Our social system is rewarding people for birthing more children despite their ability to care for them. Go to any local wal mart and see for yourself. We do need some means of population control. Is depopulation the way to do it? Perhaps not, but how exactly do we pass litigation concerning child rearing without people shouting "Communism!". Its difficult to talk about but there are a good percentage of the population that will never be of value to this society, and given that people are living longer and longer, and at SOME POINT we will have to level off, what options are there? Its cynical, and its politically incorrect, but we can't avoid those talks because of that. For the greater good, eventually we do have to be politically incorrect. I think its about finding a way that benefits the most at the expense of the least, not benefitting the fewest at the expense of the most.

Duketronix,

I totally agree with what you're saying, and I also get extremely upset. I could rant about it all day. The way our food supply is being compromised and our health being an afterthought to the food industry's bottom line is absolutely ridiculous. I hate the people who run around shouting socialism and fascism without really knowing what either of these is, but the way the regulating bodies interact with the food industry and agro industry in this country is fascist. Its about supporting business interests long before supporting the interests of the common person's health. And you're right, these things will never get mentioned because the media, which is just a tool of these same powers, is used to keep people focused on what they want people to talk about. If you ignore something in the media, it gets ignored: i.e. ron paul haha. Anyway, I'm on a rant now.

Nobody said it wasn't CAPITALISM or that it was a conspiracy. But the process of CAPITALISM can result in what one could see as a conspiracy, it's just a matter of perspective and is related to what you perceive to be the end goal of the actions and how you interpret it (though that wasn't what I was trying to get at, saying there is a conspiracy) Besides, do you really need a formal conspiracy when the same goal is already agreed upon? They want to make money, but not only that, they want to make more money than everyone else and in the process they want the land (monsanto at least) and they have very sophisticated ways of going about getting it. There's nothing fantastic about it, it's all in black and white if you look it up. There's no need to deny it because its not on anyone's radar and people just don't care. If it comes up then the blanket term of capitalism can be draped across it seemingly cleansing the actions of their significance as if it meant anything.
Anyway....

I was just naming of factual information that I have looked into if the picture painted seems conspiratorial then so be it. They just want money, capitalism, as you said and an informed population that had ANY idea on any meaningful level about what they're doing would SERIOUSLY get in the WAY ( I feel like Leonmal with all THESE caps).

I do find that the term "conspiracy theory" and its use has become a phenomena unto itself if you look at how it is used in media etc. it's really become a very interesting and imo dangerous term. Language has power and that word gets thrown around way too much and there seems to be a switch in people's heads that lets them stop thinking critically/ for themselves once that word becomes part of the conversation. It's a safety word almost like a religious mantra to shoo away evil spirits. It seems to have the power to negate mountains of evidence and yet it is somehow seen as an impossibility for ANY conspiracy ever to have existed anywhere? It's very interesting. At any rate I just look at the facts and assume each person is probably looking out for themselves, but that being said, certain people have more influence than others and so when they look out for themselves, by default everyone under their umbrella of influence looks out for them too. Just look at the history of Aspartame and its continued use.
Is that a conspiracy or capitalism? Isn't capitalism a conspiracy in which people conspire against and often with one and other to gain more of a "supposedly' finite amount of wealth or goods and extract value from them based on the lacking of others? My point being the term is being used with an added meaning, where and why did that start? Language is shaped more than most want to admit. Just look at Bernaise and the term PR. They literally branded the German advertising as propaganda (which ALL advertising was called before and businesses had a propaganda department etc..) and reinvented their own as Public Relations. Now think of the way your mind reacts to those two terms that LITERALLY meant he same thing, or did at first at least.
Basically if the word "conspiracy theory" starts flying around, there is probably some nerve that is being touched and the truly intelligent person will see that and try to find where the knee jerk reaction is coming from and what topic is being avoided and continue exploring in that direction. It's a smokescreen used to avoid cogent discussion.

I agree with most of what Anthony was saying and I agree that Eugenics has merit despite its non PC subject matter but some of the stuff that Holdron wrote about was a leeetle bit on the nuts side in my books. Poisoning drinking water in areas where "undesirables" live and forcibly taking children from parents and such. In concept I see the point of Eugenics but when people get down to the knitty gritty of how to get it done sometimes.... well lets just say its a slippery slope.

Wow longest post ever. I find this stuff interesting, obviously, thanks for bearing with me.

That's the thing. The implementation.

I do believe it will become a necessary evil, but yes, how do you approach this when the very idea means collectively selecting where to set the bar, so to speak, for desirable genetics/intellect etc.?

It certainly shouldn't be a choice being made by the percentage of the population that it is? But again, this too is shaky ground, because it certainly can't be made by the population as a whole. Who do we appoint to make such choices? Who is responsible for directing the evolution of human beings? It's something that will become part of our destiny, but in whose hands are the criteria for "admission" placed?

I mean, imagine an alien species showed up at the door step tomorrow and laid out the situation for us. Put everything on the table. And then proceeded to tell us only "x", "y", "z" are going to pass beyond this bottleneck. Everyone else will be exterminated for the sake of purifying the genetic pool. It seems the bottlenecks of evolution in our history have been great natural disasters. But I'd expect the bottlenecks in the future to be man-made bottlenecks. Unfortunately, in the situation we're in now, it isn't an objective choice. It would appear Darwinian evolution in today's society has become more about the amount of wealth and power you have accrued. A select segment of the population, the most wealthy 1%, are making these choices. In a capitalist society, that is the outcome.

why is the movie called "Genetic Roulette"? Why is it a gamble?

Its because we have no idea about the long-term effects of GMO consumption, so in that respect
its a gamble. Its probably more of an epi-genetic gamble, but if it does have a negative effect on fertility and on the development of our young, then it could be a full-blown genetic gamble. I guess we're talking
about playing roulette with where our species could be in six or seven generations of this "experiment".