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Possible explaination of the specific Pathogen / MPB theory - Epigenetic Silencing of Host Cell Defense Genes Enhances Intracellular Survival of Pathogens
It has been a very puzzling issue of mine for sometime that jdp and others who follow the same method of treating mpb believe that it can be singular, specific microbes that cause male pattern baldness, especially in light of a lot of other revelations, though recently while looking into the role of HDAC's in inflammitory and infections processes I feel it all makes sense. I have posted previously how specific pathogens can medolate the immune parameters specifically the Toll Like Receptors in their own very unique ways, some being upregulated while at the same time downregulating others, thus manipulating the inflammitory process in differing ways. What if the pathogens supposedly responsible for male pattern baldness simply regulate HDAC9 (as pointed at in a CausticSymmetry recent post) in those who have the specific immune gene for it up to the point of follicle death and exaggerated sensetivity to other factors such as DHT?
Epigenetic Silencing of Host Cell Defense Genes Enhances Intracellular Survival of the Rickettsial Pathogen Anaplasma phagocytophilum
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Jose C. Garcia-Garcia1, Nicole C. Barat1, Sarah J. Trembley2, J. Stephen Dumler1*
1 Department of Pathology, The Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine, Baltimore, Maryland, United States of America, 2 Department of Molecular and Comparative Pathobiology, The Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine, Baltimore, Maryland, United States of America
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Intracellular bacteria have evolved mechanisms that promote survival within hostile host environments, often resulting in functional dysregulation and disease. Using the Anaplasma phagocytophilum–infected granulocyte model, we establish a link between host chromatin modifications, defense gene transcription and intracellular bacterial infection. Infection of THP-1 cells with A. phagocytophilum led to silencing of host defense gene expression. Histone deacetylase 1 (HDAC1) expression, activity and binding to the defense gene promoters significantly increased during infection, which resulted in decreased histone H3 acetylation in infected cells. HDAC1 overexpression enhanced infection, whereas pharmacologic and siRNA HDAC1 inhibition significantly decreased bacterial load. HDAC2 does not seem to be involved, since HDAC2 silencing by siRNA had no effect on A. phagocytophilum intracellular propagation. These data indicate that HDAC up-regulation and epigenetic silencing of host cell defense genes is required for A. phagocytophilum infection. Bacterial epigenetic regulation of host cell gene transcription could be a general mechanism that enhances intracellular pathogen survival while altering cell function and promoting disease.
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Re: Possible explaination of the specific Pathogen / MPB theory - Epigenetic Silencing of Host Cell Defense Genes Enhances Intracellular Survival of Pathogens
Evidence of one of the proposed MPB genetic factors as a major component of the innate immune system.
HDAC inhibitors block innate immunity
Konrad A. Bode and
Alexander H. Dalpke
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UNIVERSITY OF HEIDELBERG
In this issue of Blood, Roger and colleagues present data on the magnitude of influence that broad-spectrum HDAC inhibitors exert on TLR-driven immune responses, thus demonstrating that HDAC inhibitors are immunosuppressive drugs.
Histone deacetylase (HDAC) inhibitors have become promising candidates for the treatment of different types of cancer. “At least 80 clinical trials are under way, testing more than eleven different HDAC inhibitory agents,”1p1 for their antitumor effect in hematologic and solid malignancies. The HDAC inhibitor vorinostat is now an approved add-on therapy for cutaneous T-cell lymphoma.2 HDAC inhibitors induce growth arrest, differentiation, and programmed cell death, and inhibit invasion and angiogenesis. However, over the years, evidence has accumulated showing that HDAC inhibitors also have immunomodulatory activity even in nonapoptotic concentrations. Although HDAC inhibitors increase acetylation of histones, a condition associated with increased transcriptional accessibility, multiple reports have shown that HDAC inhibitors possess suppressive effects on immune response gene induction. Individual cytokines that are induced by microbial components triggering Toll-like receptors (TLRs) were reported to be inhibited by HDAC inhibitors.3–5 Yet, the extent of those inhibitory effects and possible functional consequences during infections were largely unknown.
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Addition of broad-spectrum HDAC inhibitors to macrophages stimulated through TLRs results in a dominant inhibition of gene expression(up to 60% of TLR-induced genes) encompassing suppression of all major functions of macrophages. Consequently, in vivo susceptibility to infections is increased when the HDAC inhibitor valproate is administered to mice, whereas overreactivity of innate immunity as observed in septic shock is decreased.
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The effects of a histone deacetylase (HDAC) inhibitor on endotoxin-induced endothelial cell injury
[The effects of a histone deacetylase (HDAC) inhibitor on endotoxin-induced endothelial cell injury].
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He HM, Li A, Zhang SW, Duan ML.
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Department of Critical Care Medicine, Beijing Friendship Hospital, Capital Medical University, Beijing 100050, China.
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OBJECTIVE:
To examine the effects of HDAC inhibitor trichostatin A (TSA) on lipopolysaccharide (LPS) induced genes expression in cultured endothelial cells in order to understand the mechanisms involved in the protection of endothelial cells against vascular endothelium injury during endotoxemia.
METHODS:
Cultured EAhy926 cells (a cell line with the features of vascular endothelial cells) were treated with LPS at 100 ng/ml [the dose was chosen for minimum impact on cell survival as determined using Methyl thiazolyl tetrazolium (MTT) assay], or LPS and TSA (100 μg/ml). The expressions of toll-like receptor 4 (TLR4) and HDAC2 were measured by Western blotting 3, 6, 9, 12 and 24 hours after the beginning of the treatment.
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The expressions of TLR4 (as measured by densitometry) was found significantly higher (P< 0.01) in LPS treated cells (1.01±0.14, 1.25±0.16, 1.20±0.19) 9, 12 and 24 hours after the beginning of the treatment as compared to untreated cells (0.34±0.05); The expression of HDAC2 was also found significantly higher (P< 0.01) after LPS treatment for 12 and 24 hours (1.14±0.10, 1.20±0.04) in comparison with untreated control (0.17±0.02). In LPS+TSA treated cells, TLR4 expression(0.37±0.07) was significantly lower (P< 0.05) after 12 hours of treatment in comparison with its LPS treated counterpart (1.25±0.16), while the level of TLR4 expression stayed unchanged 24 hours after the beginning of the treatment, as compared to the result at 12 hours (0.37±0.10 vs. 1.20±0.19, P> 0.05). No visible HDAC2 expression was detected in the cells treated with LPS+TSA.
CONCLUSION:
LPS stimulated the increase of TLR4 and HDAC2 expression in the vascular endothelial cells studied while TSA suppress the LPS induced TLR4 and HDAC2 expression in these cells.
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Re: Possible explaination of the specific Pathogen / MPB theory - Epigenetic Silencing of Host Cell Defense Genes Enhances Intracellular Survival of Pathogens
Interesting stuff! Great finds by you and CS!
So my question is about lypopolysaccharide... how would one avoid high levels of LPS and would keeping it low/eliminating it as a sole treatment help in a significant way to down-regulate HDAC? If so what are they ways of addressing LPS? Carrot/ACV/coconut oil salad targets endotoxins correct? I'm ignorant to how it would target SPECIFIC endotoxins like LPS. If we can figure the treatment out then we could be on to something pretty huge! Thanks a/r!! Great posts!
So my question is about lypopolysaccharide... how would one avoid high levels of LPS and would keeping it low/eliminating it as a sole treatment help in a significant way to down-regulate HDAC? If so what are they ways of addressing LPS? Carrot/ACV/coconut oil salad targets endotoxins correct? I'm ignorant to how it would target SPECIFIC endotoxins like LPS. If we can figure the treatment out then we could be on to something pretty huge! Thanks a/r!! Great posts!
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Re: Possible explaination of the specific Pathogen / MPB theory - Epigenetic Silencing of Host Cell Defense Genes Enhances Intracellular Survival of Pathogens
Sorry to go a little off topic, but this shows the direct connection of LPS (endotoxin) to TNFa, other pro-inflammatory factors and suppression of the immune reaction... Per immortalhair.org, Pomegranite as well as niacinamide both reduce TNFa, but that's treating the symptom again. We need to get right to the source. LPS and other endotoxins.
Systemic LPS Causes Chronic Neuroinflammation and Progressive Neurodegeneration
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Inflammation is implicated in the progressive nature of neurodegenerative diseases, such as Parkinson's disease, but the mechanisms are poorly understood. A single systemic lipopolysaccharide (LPS, 5 mg/kg, i.p.) or tumor necrosis factor alpha (TNFα, 0.25 mg/kg, i.p.) injection was administered in adult wild-type mice and in mice lacking TNFα receptors (TNF R1/R2−/−) to discern the mechanisms of inflammation transfer from the periphery to the brain and the neurodegenerative consequences. Systemic LPS administration resulted in rapid brain TNFα increase that remained elevated for 10 months, while peripheral TNFα (serum and liver) had subsided by 9 h (serum) and 1 week (liver). Systemic TNFα and LPS administration activated microglia and increased expression of brain pro-inflammatory factors (i.e., TNFα, MCP-1, IL-1β, and NF-κB p65) in wild-type mice, but not in TNF R1/R2−/− mice. Further, LPS reduced the number of tyrosine hydroxylase-immunoreactive neurons in the substantia nigra (SN) by 23% at 7-months post-treatment, which progressed to 47% at 10 months. Together, these data demonstrate that through TNFα, peripheral inflammation in adult animals can: (1) activate brain microglia to produce chronically elevated pro-inflammatory factors; (2) induce delayed and progressive loss of DA neurons in the SN. These findings provide valuable insight into the potential pathogenesis and self-propelling nature of Parkinson's disease.Keywords: TNFα, LPS, substantia nigra, microglia, neurodegeneration, neuroinflammation
Systemic LPS Causes Chronic Neuroinflammation and Progressive Neurodegeneration
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Inflammation is implicated in the progressive nature of neurodegenerative diseases, such as Parkinson's disease, but the mechanisms are poorly understood. A single systemic lipopolysaccharide (LPS, 5 mg/kg, i.p.) or tumor necrosis factor alpha (TNFα, 0.25 mg/kg, i.p.) injection was administered in adult wild-type mice and in mice lacking TNFα receptors (TNF R1/R2−/−) to discern the mechanisms of inflammation transfer from the periphery to the brain and the neurodegenerative consequences. Systemic LPS administration resulted in rapid brain TNFα increase that remained elevated for 10 months, while peripheral TNFα (serum and liver) had subsided by 9 h (serum) and 1 week (liver). Systemic TNFα and LPS administration activated microglia and increased expression of brain pro-inflammatory factors (i.e., TNFα, MCP-1, IL-1β, and NF-κB p65) in wild-type mice, but not in TNF R1/R2−/− mice. Further, LPS reduced the number of tyrosine hydroxylase-immunoreactive neurons in the substantia nigra (SN) by 23% at 7-months post-treatment, which progressed to 47% at 10 months. Together, these data demonstrate that through TNFα, peripheral inflammation in adult animals can: (1) activate brain microglia to produce chronically elevated pro-inflammatory factors; (2) induce delayed and progressive loss of DA neurons in the SN. These findings provide valuable insight into the potential pathogenesis and self-propelling nature of Parkinson's disease.Keywords: TNFα, LPS, substantia nigra, microglia, neurodegeneration, neuroinflammation
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Re: Possible explaination of the specific Pathogen / MPB theory - Epigenetic Silencing of Host Cell Defense Genes Enhances Intracellular Survival of Pathogens
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2871685/
Whole study here if interested.
Whole study here if interested.
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Re: Possible explaination of the specific Pathogen / MPB theory - Epigenetic Silencing of Host Cell Defense Genes Enhances Intracellular Survival of Pathogens
Bump. No discussion?
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Re: Possible explaination of the specific Pathogen / MPB theory - Epigenetic Silencing of Host Cell Defense Genes Enhances Intracellular Survival of Pathogens
the only pathogen i'd be willing to admit may be involved is an unknown virus.
ive completely my microbiology series of subjects in my med science degree, and i truly believe protazoa, fungi/ bacteria, helminths would be known about.
i can see how a virus could be undiscovered though.
ive completely my microbiology series of subjects in my med science degree, and i truly believe protazoa, fungi/ bacteria, helminths would be known about.
i can see how a virus could be undiscovered though.
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Re: Possible explaination of the specific Pathogen / MPB theory - Epigenetic Silencing of Host Cell Defense Genes Enhances Intracellular Survival of Pathogens
The pathogens are known about, it's the mechanisms of action between the hosts immune sensory cells and native bacteria and the other known pathogens that are under scrutiny here.
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Re: Possible explaination of the specific Pathogen / MPB theory - Epigenetic Silencing of Host Cell Defense Genes Enhances Intracellular Survival of Pathogens
Anxious,
I'm tending to the virus theory too.
I recently read an article about cfs and an enterovirus in the stomach, quite fit to me and it explains a lot of things.
Trying to treat it this way.
I'm tending to the virus theory too.
I recently read an article about cfs and an enterovirus in the stomach, quite fit to me and it explains a lot of things.
Trying to treat it this way.
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Re: Possible explaination of the specific Pathogen / MPB theory - Epigenetic Silencing of Host Cell Defense Genes Enhances Intracellular Survival of Pathogens
Yanks wrote:Systemic LPS administration resulted in rapid brain TNFα increase that remained elevated for 10 months,
That's really interesting, a single dose has an effect that lasts for months. I wonder if it's because the dose was so high as to be damaging, and whether you'd have a similarly prolonged effect with a smaller dose. 1mg/kg is an enormous quantity of LPS considering one millionth of that dose will have a significant effect on the immune system.
the only pathogen i'd be willing to admit may be involved is an unknown virus.
Like ar said, this is not about undiscovered organisms. For example, intestinal permeability may be more important than the number and type of organisms found in the gut, or the organisms may have an undiscovered effect on the gut, or maybe some third variable changes the interaction between flora and gut.
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Re: Possible explaination of the specific Pathogen / MPB theory - Epigenetic Silencing of Host Cell Defense Genes Enhances Intracellular Survival of Pathogens
FWIW, if one thinks it's only a virus and nothing else than can get a LifeForce 2000 or pyro energen or Dr. Lloyd's cheaper version Static Gen II and use at night.
Problem being is it's not just viruses but always have to work their way down from the large parasite down to the small virus as these larger pathogens also harbor the smaller ones. And when killing these pathogens they will release toxic substances, metals, etc. that will further aggravate hair loss and other health issues if they are not detoxed/chelated.
Chelation, iron donation, detox, etc. will reduce the population of these pathogens as will reducing specific foods in the diet will starve out specific pathogens. Problem being is will only go so far.
Problem being is it's not just viruses but always have to work their way down from the large parasite down to the small virus as these larger pathogens also harbor the smaller ones. And when killing these pathogens they will release toxic substances, metals, etc. that will further aggravate hair loss and other health issues if they are not detoxed/chelated.
Chelation, iron donation, detox, etc. will reduce the population of these pathogens as will reducing specific foods in the diet will starve out specific pathogens. Problem being is will only go so far.
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