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Cancer in pancreas > Spreading!
Just heard about a friend of mine. We're talking cancer in the pancreas. Treatment (chemotherapy) managed to halt it, it looked fine until recently when doctors discovered that the cancer had spread to the liver and was producing more metastasis.
Is it game over or what can be done? I've been thinking about everything from aajonus vonderplanitz to Rife..
Please advice, clock is ticking. Thanks!
Is it game over or what can be done? I've been thinking about everything from aajonus vonderplanitz to Rife..
Please advice, clock is ticking. Thanks!
Misirlou- Posts : 1170
Join date : 2008-07-11
Re: Cancer in pancreas > Spreading!
I can't pretend to know how to halt or get rid of cancer for certain.
However, I would greatly, greatly advise that you also ask for help with this on CureZone as well, as they are much more knowledgeable on alternative treatments than the vast majority of people elsewhere that you will meet (possibly excluding this place though as it's a bit like a second CureZone to me! hehe ).
I'm very sorry to hear about this, but get stuck in on CureZone and here and you'll probably get some great advice and information.
I have heard good things about ozonated water, colloidal silver, stuff like that, and some things inhibit cancer like telomerase inhibitors. Search for CureZone posts by Hveragerthi on this, as he seems very clued up.
Good luck to both of you with this
Hoppi
However, I would greatly, greatly advise that you also ask for help with this on CureZone as well, as they are much more knowledgeable on alternative treatments than the vast majority of people elsewhere that you will meet (possibly excluding this place though as it's a bit like a second CureZone to me! hehe ).
I'm very sorry to hear about this, but get stuck in on CureZone and here and you'll probably get some great advice and information.
I have heard good things about ozonated water, colloidal silver, stuff like that, and some things inhibit cancer like telomerase inhibitors. Search for CureZone posts by Hveragerthi on this, as he seems very clued up.
Good luck to both of you with this
Hoppi
Re: Cancer in pancreas > Spreading!
I am sure CS will touch on some of the things I say but for pancreatic cancer your friend needs to get on high dose pancreatic enzymes to support the loss of those enzymes. Now that it is in the liver he will also perhaps need to address other things loosed by that. Hopefully CS can comment.
Other things I would get myself on immediately is high dose Vitamin C. Definitely add lypospheric Vitamin C. You can get at Amazon.com. Probably can take 3 a day spread out (prob more really).
I would also get on some form of detox/chelation. High Dose Iodine along with Humifulvate and other supportive things.
Personally I would get a zapper of some form. If financially troubled get a Terminator 2 or Orgone Zapper from Orgonise Africa for around $100. Otherwise spring for a F-165/SC-1 combo for about $2000 and do some research. After getting one of these put your friend on the "doctrine" http://theiamwork.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Doctrine
Other things I would get myself on immediately is high dose Vitamin C. Definitely add lypospheric Vitamin C. You can get at Amazon.com. Probably can take 3 a day spread out (prob more really).
I would also get on some form of detox/chelation. High Dose Iodine along with Humifulvate and other supportive things.
Personally I would get a zapper of some form. If financially troubled get a Terminator 2 or Orgone Zapper from Orgonise Africa for around $100. Otherwise spring for a F-165/SC-1 combo for about $2000 and do some research. After getting one of these put your friend on the "doctrine" http://theiamwork.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Doctrine
hapyman- Posts : 697
Join date : 2008-11-11
Re: Cancer in pancreas > Spreading!
Thanks Hoppi, I will try it too, my problem with curezone is that the forum is pre-historic in it's structure, it's just aweful
I still hope for answers from this board! It's highly appreciated.
I still hope for answers from this board! It's highly appreciated.
Misirlou- Posts : 1170
Join date : 2008-07-11
Re: Cancer in pancreas > Spreading!
If you didn't take a look already, here is the cancer faq for rife therapy http://curezone.com/blogs/fm.asp?i=1593813#i
Stuff like SeMC and ip6 comes to my mind, also certain enzymes....doctrine....
Best to wait for CS to reply, but another question is if your friend would even consider alternative treatments.
Best of luck to you and your friend!
Stuff like SeMC and ip6 comes to my mind, also certain enzymes....doctrine....
Best to wait for CS to reply, but another question is if your friend would even consider alternative treatments.
Best of luck to you and your friend!
pancacke- Posts : 1644
Join date : 2010-07-22
Re: Cancer in pancreas > Spreading!
Misirlou - Hapyman is correct!
An 80% success rate with pancreatic cancer is with Dr. Gonzalez.
http://www.dr-gonzalez.com/index.htm
It requires very high-dose pancreatic enzymes. The kind are very specific.
He makes his own enzymes, however you can also use the ones by Nutricology.
The protocol involves consuming 50 to 100 grams or so of pancreatic enzymes.
An 80% success rate with pancreatic cancer is with Dr. Gonzalez.
http://www.dr-gonzalez.com/index.htm
It requires very high-dose pancreatic enzymes. The kind are very specific.
He makes his own enzymes, however you can also use the ones by Nutricology.
The protocol involves consuming 50 to 100 grams or so of pancreatic enzymes.
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Re: Cancer in pancreas > Spreading!
Whats the best way to prevent pancreatic cancer and problems? My great grandfather and grandather on my dads side both died from problems related to the pancreas.
tooyoung- Posts : 1978
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Location : England
Re: Cancer in pancreas > Spreading!
Dr. Gonzalez wisely tailors the diet to the individual. If the patient craves meat and fat, they should eat that. If they prefer vegetables or salads, then that would be best. Of course for a patients, it is wise to avoid refined sugars and processed foods.
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Re: Cancer in pancreas > Spreading!
Didn't we hear just recently, an Australian Doctor/Research used infusions of intravenous ascorbic acid on cancer patients. They found that cancer became more susceptible to chemotherapy and prevented slowed the cancer from metastasizing. It was a video that someone posted on the recent Swine Flu virus and Vitamin C.
tonyj- Posts : 390
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Re: Cancer in pancreas > Spreading!
I heard raw garlic reduces pancreatic cancer by 50 percent....
Hairbeback- Posts : 884
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Re: Cancer in pancreas > Spreading!
Since it's spreading fast, would also recommend Cesium chloride, taken at three equal divided doses of 6 to 9 grams daily.
However, potassium levels are depleted with this therapy, as well as other chances, so it's very important to be monitored closely by a physician to keep tabs on uric acid and potassium levels.
However, potassium levels are depleted with this therapy, as well as other chances, so it's very important to be monitored closely by a physician to keep tabs on uric acid and potassium levels.
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Re: Cancer in pancreas > Spreading!
CS - you've mentioned before that Cancer "loves a low oxygen environment". I've read of a Dr. Otto Warburg who supposedly proved that a low oxygen environment was the CAUSE of cancer.
If this is true, then how does someone create a High oxygen environment?
If this is true, then how does someone create a High oxygen environment?
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scottyc33- Posts : 1150
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Re: Cancer in pancreas > Spreading!
try Rick Simpson hemp Oil
http://ricksimpsonhempoil.blogspot.com/
http://ricksimpsonhempoil.blogspot.com/
zanza- Posts : 138
Join date : 2010-06-18
Re: Cancer in pancreas > Spreading!
Thanks for all the input.
Do you have any more information? Any names etc?
Does anyone know how to implement cannabis as a anti-cancer treatment?
Any ideas how to combat the cancer when it is in the liver?
tonyj wrote:Didn't we hear just recently, an Australian Doctor/Research used infusions of intravenous ascorbic acid on cancer patients. They found that cancer became more susceptible to chemotherapy and prevented slowed the cancer from metastasizing. It was a video that someone posted on the recent Swine Flu virus and Vitamin C.
Do you have any more information? Any names etc?
Does anyone know how to implement cannabis as a anti-cancer treatment?
Any ideas how to combat the cancer when it is in the liver?
Misirlou- Posts : 1170
Join date : 2008-07-11
Re: Cancer in pancreas > Spreading!
Latest development
Cancer is now focused to the liver. Swelling due to plugs affects the legs.
What can be done?
Cancer is now focused to the liver. Swelling due to plugs affects the legs.
What can be done?
Misirlou- Posts : 1170
Join date : 2008-07-11
Re: Cancer in pancreas > Spreading!
Go here and have a read or tell your friend to do so.
http://www.cancertutor.com/index.html
I hope this helps in some way.
http://www.cancertutor.com/index.html
I hope this helps in some way.
Christos- Posts : 44
Join date : 2009-05-26
Age : 64
Re: Cancer in pancreas > Spreading!
That's a great site. Been there before and they cover a whole host of different treatments. You can find information there about the Cesium Chloride treatment CS suggested. If I remember correctly though they have you administer the Cesium transdermally with DMSO though. Things could have changed because its been awhile since I've been there.
Definitely get on high dose vitamin C as soon as possible and high dose pancreas enzymes. If he can afford it get lyposperic vitamin C from Amazon or eBay. Otherwise go the expensive route and find a Dr near him that gives IV Vit C. They are more wide spread now but that is more expensive than lypospheric C and supposedly just as effective.
Definitely get on high dose vitamin C as soon as possible and high dose pancreas enzymes. If he can afford it get lyposperic vitamin C from Amazon or eBay. Otherwise go the expensive route and find a Dr near him that gives IV Vit C. They are more wide spread now but that is more expensive than lypospheric C and supposedly just as effective.
hapyman- Posts : 697
Join date : 2008-11-11
Re: Cancer in pancreas > Spreading!
Not sure if this is the best option. I would go with classical ascorbic acid in megadoses(>3 gramm), now provides pharma grade: http://www.iherb.com/Now-Foods-Vitamin-C-Crystals-Ascorbic-Acid-8-oz-227-g/413?at=0hapyman wrote: If he can afford it get lyposperic vitamin C from Amazon or eBay.
pancacke- Posts : 1644
Join date : 2010-07-22
Re: Cancer in pancreas > Spreading!
Here is one of mercola's more recent posts about Vitamin C. He has changed his stance on certain forms of Vitamin C due to recent findings.
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/11/20/ronald-hunninghake-on-vitamin-c.aspx
Here is some lypo-spheric Vitamin C:
http://www.amazon.com/LivOn-Lypo-Spheric-Vitamin-C/dp/B000CD9XGC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=hpc&qid=1304429904&sr=8-1
Otherwise what I would do is get regular Vitamin C and take 1 gram for every hour during the day. If he tolerates that I would increase the dosage by 500mg -1000mg per hour until he reaches saturation, which is usually harmless and causes a bowel movement. At that point I would continue at that dosage, which could be anywhere from 1g-4g per hour depending on his needs. Its near impossible to overdose on Vitamin C, especially in disease state, where a doctor can administer up to 200 grams IV in one session. Also the half-life of Vitamin C is 1 hour I believe so the body either uses it or expels it via the kidneys, which is why you can take it so often to keep up the serum levels. One other note at these high levels he should take a high quality copper supplement. Vitamin C will chelate oxidized copper and can complete other copper stores. Most people have enough copper but if it is prolonged Vitamin C use they suggest copper supplement.
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/11/20/ronald-hunninghake-on-vitamin-c.aspx
Here is some lypo-spheric Vitamin C:
http://www.amazon.com/LivOn-Lypo-Spheric-Vitamin-C/dp/B000CD9XGC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=hpc&qid=1304429904&sr=8-1
Otherwise what I would do is get regular Vitamin C and take 1 gram for every hour during the day. If he tolerates that I would increase the dosage by 500mg -1000mg per hour until he reaches saturation, which is usually harmless and causes a bowel movement. At that point I would continue at that dosage, which could be anywhere from 1g-4g per hour depending on his needs. Its near impossible to overdose on Vitamin C, especially in disease state, where a doctor can administer up to 200 grams IV in one session. Also the half-life of Vitamin C is 1 hour I believe so the body either uses it or expels it via the kidneys, which is why you can take it so often to keep up the serum levels. One other note at these high levels he should take a high quality copper supplement. Vitamin C will chelate oxidized copper and can complete other copper stores. Most people have enough copper but if it is prolonged Vitamin C use they suggest copper supplement.
hapyman- Posts : 697
Join date : 2008-11-11
Re: Cancer in pancreas > Spreading!
this sounds like what happened to steve jobs he had pancreatic cancer then it metastasized into the liver and now 4 days ago he quit as apples CEO..He is only 56 and all his drs are conventional ones I am guessing
ailin- Posts : 169
Join date : 2011-01-30
Age : 32
Location : Chicago
Re: Cancer in pancreas > Spreading!
My uncle got diagnosed with pancreatic cancer two days ago. It seems that this kind on cancer is quit hopless case. Do you think is there any logic in ketogenic diet to fight cancer?
rayl- Posts : 30
Join date : 2013-11-13
Re: Cancer in pancreas > Spreading!
Pancreatic cancer is second only to brain cancer in severity. I personally would try pancreatic enzymes, making the person iodine + magnesium + D3 + K2 (as MK-7 and MK-4) sufficient, liposomal vitamin C and grounding/earthing.
4039- Posts : 780
Join date : 2010-08-22
Re: Cancer in pancreas > Spreading!
I personally am no expert, but aren't there supposed to be some natural cures that MSM suppresses? Never lose hope. Coincidently, I just read about this today. http://metro.co.uk/2014/01/05/pancreatic-cancer-killed-off-in-just-six-days-british-scientists-claim-4250777/
MikeGore- Posts : 803
Join date : 2010-05-25
Re: Cancer in pancreas > Spreading!
Totally 2nd 4039 on this.
Dr. Nicholas Gonzalez has the highest success rate in treating pancreatic cancer naturally.
He wrote a book recently showing 125 cases fully documented. He's been doing this
for over 25 years.
http://www.dr-gonzalez.com/index.htm
Dr. Nicholas Gonzalez has the highest success rate in treating pancreatic cancer naturally.
He wrote a book recently showing 125 cases fully documented. He's been doing this
for over 25 years.
http://www.dr-gonzalez.com/index.htm
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Re: Cancer in pancreas > Spreading!
Please review both links below
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6EAkTrauss
http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/Archive/bill-chastain-apex-revolutionary-cancer-program.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6EAkTrauss
http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/Archive/bill-chastain-apex-revolutionary-cancer-program.html
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