Ideal Multi-Mineral

So what's the consensus on the ideal multi mineral at this time? I'm lookin on MineralLifeonline.com for mine. I ordered a bunch of single ionic minerals to experiment with but want to make sure I'm gettin everything I need.

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Yanks wrote:So what's the consensus on the ideal multi mineral at this time? I'm lookin on MineralLifeonline.com for mine. I ordered a bunch of single ionic minerals to experiment with but want to make sure I'm gettin everything I need.

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http://www.mineralifeonline.com/pd-iontrace-8oz-120-day-supply.cfm[url][/url]

What's that?
http://www.mineralifeonline.com/pd-mineralife-mineral-balancing-program.cfm
looks nice

BTW the mineral u posted has Iron in it

I believe dessicated liver is the answer. It contains all the vitamins and minerals needed by the body in the correct form. Yes, there is iron in there too, but not the kind that is added to refined products, this forms is much better and is not so harmful.

A lot of strongmen and bodybuilders of yesteryear used to swear by Dessicated liver tablets. How many liver tablets do you suggest CS? I am also into strength training ( 4 times a week ) and running 3+ miles ( 2-3 times a week ) When is the most appropriate time to have them?

Link to dessicated liver?

http://www.iherb.com/Now-Foods-Liver-Powder-12-oz-340-g/656?at=0

As a bonus, you'll get incredible energy from NOW dessicated liver but taste is pretty bad.

I am planning to buy uniliver tablets by Universal.

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Yanks wrote:So what's the consensus on the ideal multi mineral at this time? I'm lookin on MineralLifeonline.com for mine. I ordered a bunch of single ionic minerals to experiment with but want to make sure I'm gettin everything I need.

A<R?

http://www.mineralifeonline.com/pd-iontrace-8oz-120-day-supply.cfm[url][/url]

This is the exact one I was looking at. I should be taking smaller than the recommended doage, but subligually in order to follow PRague's logice right?

Hi there IH

I think I asked you about dessicated liver ages ago. I remember taking it years ago and the first thing I noticed was a huge jump in energy levels. It was quite immediate and I was quite amazed by the effect. I stopped taking it because I was told that because of its high iron levels it could increase the risk of cancer and other undesirable results. I would love to go back onto desiccated liver and add it to my current protocol (the top 6) if you think that it is totally safe to use long term.
Also IH I'd like to know what you think of vitamin C supplementation. I currently take between 1000 - 2000 mg of vit. C at the moment and find it definitely has a positive effect on my system but am a bit wary of its synthetic nature. I have been told to take vit C in botanical form such as acerola cherry or rosehip supplementation. What do you think - as you take Brewer's yeast for vit. B source? Any thoughts on liposomal vit. C as well?
Be great to hear your views on the above.

Grateful - The iron levels in desiccated liver are rich, however this form of iron is much better for the body than the type of iron that is fortified to bakery goods (flour). It's also much different from the type of iron commonly found in many supplements.

While cancer does horde iron, taking extra iron in food form will not create cancer. The nice thing about desiccated liver is that it contains all the minerals, so it will have much better benefit this way.

I might as well mention that the supplement called Artemisinin, is a substance that actually uses iron against cancer.

Lypo-spheric vitamin C is a great way to out perform intravenous vitamin C at a fraction of the cost. Littlefighter made a post some time back on how to make your own Lypso-spheric vitamin C, making it even more affordable. If one has issues with unresolved inflammation, this is worth a try.

For normal use, vitamin C between 2 and 3 grams per day will allow the average male to live an additional 6 years. This allows us to catch up to the women's average lifespan. However, I should mention that other things say, within the top-6 will allow a much greater than 6-year advantage on lifespan (based on animal research).

If you're taking some form of bioflavanoids, such as rutin, quercetin or hesperidin, then you're covered as far as fully functioning vitamin C.

Also, many companies use acerola cherry or rosehip as a ploy, but their actual value is quite limited.

Straight Ascorbic Acid (reduced from glucose), sounds refined, however animals metabolize it this way and while some of the connective tissue strength can be further stabilized with bioflavonoids, chances are very good that you're already getting some protection already for your veins and capillaries. Because, besides the flavonoids mentioned above, there are great many others (grapeseed extract, etc.).

Brewer's yeast is a nice source of hard to find B-complex (except for the B12) and contains complexed minerals. Desiccated liver can be used in its place, but might try alternating them to see what has a better effect.

Thanks so much IH for your very detailed reply to my query. All what you said is what I wanted to hear. I'm going to put in a order for desiccated liver right now - can't wait to start it. I'll get back to the forum to report on any effects I get from it. Very interesting about the lypo-spheric vit. C. Certainly adding these to the top 6. Once again IH, thank you for the information - your advice is always gold.

anybody know where that post about making lypo-spheric vit. C is can't find it?

@Balthier - The original article seems to have disappeared (or maybe the link is broken), but here is a copy of it off curezone

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1480584


Anyway, I have started taking kelp powder for my mineral needs, on top of the wheat grass shakes I already take. I do not know how kelp compares to liver, but it is definitely cheaper.

TheFunkyStumpfighter wrote:@Balthier - The original article seems to have disappeared (or maybe the link is broken), but here is a copy of it off curezone

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1480584


Anyway, I have started taking kelp powder for my mineral needs, on top of the wheat grass shakes I already take. I do not know how kelp compares to liver, but it is definitely cheaper.

Hey Funky, have you tried making liposomal stuff yourself? If so, did you have any success? I'm considering to make liposomal vitamin c, would be so much cheaper.

CausticSymmetry wrote:I believe dessicated liver is the answer. It contains all the vitamins and minerals needed by the body in the correct form. Yes, there is iron in there too, but not the kind that is added to refined products, this forms is much better and is not so harmful.

How does this compare to simply eating liver regularly? I like it and can buy lamb liver very cheaply (£1 / $1.50 for a large plateful) so am now consuming quite a lot. Also, there are a few stories out there about eating too much liver being harmful, (excess vitamin A was mentioned) - any validity?

diffuse - If the food that lamb eats is found, it would be a great alternative to the supplement.

Vitamin A fears were generated from people eating a lot of seal and polar bear liver. Wouldn't worry about it unless that's all you eat.

Thanks CS. It's from New Zealand, where I believe they are generally grass-fed.

Probably shows the stupidity of the food chain actually, NZ being on the opposite side of the world from the UK. And like many UK towns, mine is surrounded by grassy hills...full of lambs and sheep.

hair grower wrote:

TheFunkyStumpfighter wrote:@Balthier - The original article seems to have disappeared (or maybe the link is broken), but here is a copy of it off curezone

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1480584


Anyway, I have started taking kelp powder for my mineral needs, on top of the wheat grass shakes I already take. I do not know how kelp compares to liver, but it is definitely cheaper.

Hey Funky, have you tried making liposomal stuff yourself? If so, did you have any success? I'm considering to make liposomal vitamin c, would be so much cheaper.

I have the ultrasonic cleaner they use to make the liposomal vitamin C, but I'm weary of making anything liposomal until I can figure out what is safe and what is not. For instance, the article on liposomal vitamin C was for treating cancer, and to my recollection said nothing about using it for supplemental use. I don't want to be the guy that finds out that using such a highly absorbable form of vitamin C has serious side effects, if you know what I mean.

I have no clue whether the same process can make other things liposomal, and I think it'd be hard for me to tell if it actually worked if I tried it.

Funky, are you worrying about liposomal C in general or just the homemade stuff. I've been taking the one from supplementclinic for over a year without problems. The homemade type should be fine so long as it's made with ascorbate.

blackjack wrote:http://www.iherb.com/Now-Foods-Liver-Powder-12-oz-340-g/656?at=0

CS, I saw you mention that dessicated liver contains all the vitamins and minerals you need.

Does anyone know if this now foods liver powder contains all of the vitamins and minerals you need? Or is it actual liver you need to eat? So you don't need another multi mineral or multi vitamin substitute? I realized I need something for minerals and the benefits of this look amazing. I can't wait to try it.. especially with my condition I think it will do really good things.

Any other experiences on dessicated liver let me know, I know this is an old thread.. but very interesting info.

I alternate between desiccated liver and Swanson's awesome Albion-based Chelated multi-mineral. The glycinate portion is what makes the formulation so highly absorbable. They now even manufacture a non-iron version, for anyone with had demonstrated such concerns.

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/swanson-ultra-albion-chelated-multi-mineral-glycinate-120-caps
http://www.swansonvitamins.com/swanson-ultra-albion-chelated-multi-mineral-without-iron-120-caps

Any thoughts on this liver product?
http://www.iherb.com/Nutricology-Liver-Beef-Natural-Glandular-125-Veggie-Caps/3445