Disinfecting Scalp? a hypothesis

Would disinfecting the scalp daily help kill off any bad germs in the scalp, and reduce inflammation?

The hypothesis is:

1- disinfect with oregano oil, grape seed oil, lemon balm oil, iodine.. What's a good method to disinfect?

2- Then, use some exfoliating shampoo to remove sebum that feeds the germs.

3- Finally, once disinfected would it be worth applying good probiotics, kefir, etc on the scalp to repopulate with good germs?

This is similar to getting rid of intestinal candida (by taking oregano oil, iodine, etc while supplementing with probiotics).

What do you think?

Really, thanks in advance for your feedback and advice

I wouldn't think probiotics would be needed on the surface of the scalp. I thought they only provide benefits in our intestines. What benefit would they provide on top of our scalp?

baller234 wrote:I wouldn't think probiotics would be needed on the surface of the scalp. I thought they only provide benefits in our intestines. What benefit would they provide on top of our scalp?

I am speculating here, they would fight off bad germs .. the scalp cant be sterile so some germs live there, some are probably better for the hair than others.

Good idea .. Using enzymes like bromelain or papain help in killing bacteria bio-films that otherwise protect the infection inside the follicles .. IMO.

Bromelain is a great addition to any antimicrobial topical or shampoo, for so many reasons that anyone who makes their own shampoos absolutely eneds to have a bottle of the stuff.

Disinfecting is something you're just gonna have to go trial and error on, it's not always as easy as throwing on some grapefruit seed extract and washing regularly. Right now I'm using a homemade shampoo with lithium, DMSO, tea tree oil, iodine, bromelain, and grapefruit seed extract in a plain Dr. Bronner's base, and I'm seeing decent results but they're coming on slow.

TheFunkyStumpfighter wrote:Bromelain is a great addition to any antimicrobial topical or shampoo, for so many reasons that anyone who makes their own shampoos absolutely eneds to have a bottle of the stuff.

Disinfecting is something you're just gonna have to go trial and error on, it's not always as easy as throwing on some grapefruit seed extract and washing regularly. Right now I'm using a homemade shampoo with lithium, DMSO, tea tree oil, iodine, bromelain, and grapefruit seed extract in a plain Dr. Bronner's base, and I'm seeing decent results but they're coming on slow.

wow, what a shampoo mix! this is neat. I'm just curious what "color" does this shampoo have with all these ingredients?

Killing the Malassezia-furfur (fungus/yeast), which multiplies on the scalp and feeds off sebum, is crucial (in my opinion) for regrowth. The fungus causes inflammation/scaling!

teacup wrote:

TheFunkyStumpfighter wrote:Bromelain is a great addition to any antimicrobial topical or shampoo, for so many reasons that anyone who makes their own shampoos absolutely eneds to have a bottle of the stuff.

Disinfecting is something you're just gonna have to go trial and error on, it's not always as easy as throwing on some grapefruit seed extract and washing regularly. Right now I'm using a homemade shampoo with lithium, DMSO, tea tree oil, iodine, bromelain, and grapefruit seed extract in a plain Dr. Bronner's base, and I'm seeing decent results but they're coming on slow.

wow, what a shampoo mix! this is neat. I'm just curious what "color" does this shampoo have with all these ingredients?

Light pink, and smells entirely of tea tree oil..... so not unlike flowers and kerosene.

misterE wrote:Killing the Malassezia-furfur (fungus/yeast), which multiplies on the scalp and feeds off sebum, is crucial (in my opinion) for regrowth. The fungus causes inflammation/scaling!

I think I agree with you about this. Why is it that Revita/Nizoral haven't cut it for me though?. I've been recommended a new topical by a user over at the curezone forums.

"I have a hair do for you, cheap and effective;
mix one heaped tablespoon of Borax in half a liter of warm water, add 10 drops of Iodine and 10 drops of essential oil
(rosemary, tea tree or lavender or a mix of these) dont worry the solution will turn transparent / borax fade the iodine color. I believe the inflammation have no chance toward this scalp mix.

Pour in a squeeze bottle and add some to your scalp, let it sit for half an hour or so. Then shampoo as usual."

Any thoughts on this topical.

MisterE, could you recommend me any topical?.

Decro435 wrote:

MisterE, could you recommend me any topical?.

Dr. Bronners Magic Peppermint Soap! Best topical ever!

http://www.drbronner.com/DBMS/OLPE16/PeppermintLiquidSoap.htm

For the record, don't use Dr. Bronner's as a topical, it will dry your scalp out like no soap you have ever experience in your life. If you wan't a decent representation as to why, lather up some straight Dr. Bronner's and use the lather to shave, or use a couple drops of it to brush your teeth/put a drop of it on your tongue and swish it around (completely safe). It will make for the most uncomfortable shave you have ever had (outside of a dry shave), and it will make your tongue burn to the point where it goes completely numb.

I know I beat the dead horse on this stuff, but it is incredibly harsh. It's an amazing shampoo/body soap base, but trust me when I say none of the oils they put tiny amounts of into it make up for the fact that pure castile soap is not something you want to use unless you dilute it.

I use a Lugol's and apple cider vinegar mixture. Actually makes my hair look great, shiny and positively charged. Nizoral makes my hair look like dried straw. Other times I use either topical colloidal silver or gold. Once in a while I use these oils as topicals: peppermint, rosemary, cedarwood, clove, tea tree, lavender, sea buckthorn.

For the record, don't use Dr. Bronner's as a topical, it will dry your scalp out like no soap you have ever experience in your life

How about if you add like 50% yoyoba or some other essential oil to it, would it make a good daily topical then?

I don't know why you'd want to use it as a topical in the first place, it's soap. If you tried to apply it like you'd apply a topical it would just lather up like shampoo.

Excuse me, i meant to say use it as a daily shampoo. I have a lot of sebum and dandruff so i need to wash my hair every day and using nizoral every day is not an option. So i thought dr bronner mixed with an oil like yoyoba as a daily shampoo might be a good idea?

Ahh. If you're gonna use it as a shampoo I'd cut it with water for the most part, then add oils after that. Too much oil will keep it from doing much cleaning, and it'll leave your hair greasy as hell. If you are having a sebum problem, you could try adding lithium and DMSO to it. What I do is take the ~3.5oz of water I use to make 8oz of shampoo, put a decent amount of DMSO into it, then add my lithium while stirring it until there's a fair amount of undisolved lithium in the bottom of the container. Mixing it this way before you combine the water and castile soap ensures you get a good spread of lithium in the shampoo, and keeps grit to a minimum. A couple months of this will cut down your sebum levels pretty well.

Also, if you're making your own shampoo with Dr. Bronner's, it wouldn't hurt to add some anti irritants just to offset the harshness a bit. Shea butter, aloe vera, things like this.

Dr. Bronners Magic Peppermint soap ingredients: Water, Organic Coconut Oil, , Organic Olive Oil, Mentha Arvensis, Organic Hemp Oil, Organic Jojoba Oil, Organic Peppermint Oil, Citric Acid, Vitamin-E


Dr. Bronners Soap completely removes oils. The oil (sebum) is food for the fungus that lives on top of the scalp (due to the high concentration of sebaceous-glands) and indirectly causes inflammation via the Immune-system. After a week of using this soap, my scalp began to shed dead-skin-cells at a enormous rate, it was like a complete exfoliation of scalp, I just couldn't believe how much build-up I had on my scalp and how much I was able to comb from my scalp. I would literally spend hours combing my scalp (about a hour after using the peppermint-soap as a shampoo) and was really amazed at large amount of flakes falling from my scalp!

Dr. Bronners Soap seems to completely remove sebum, kills fungus and also, via peppermint-oil acts as an anti-androgen. It also contains jojoba-oil, which is said to be a great sebum-dissolver/emulsifier. Also contains hemp-oil; a great source of EFA's and phytosterols... not to mention all of the ingredients are organic and non-synthetic... not tested on animals either!