Fibrosis question

Is there anyway tell if you have fibrosis of the scalp? Is it noticeable?

please check out my comments here:

https://immortalhair.forumotion.com/natural-hair-regrowth-f1/manganese-copper-iodine-cobalamin-ratio-cs-jdp-ih-community-t3807-195.htm#35074

For a long time I used to complain about my scalp feeling hard, stiff, just not pleasant... as if it couldn't breathe.
I tried everything, conditioners, oils, shampoos, deep combing, nothing really helped.
I'll let you know if the manganese and stuff helps me with it, seems like it's worth a shot.
Would read into Papain and Hyaluronic Acid if you want immediate relief.

I know prague had used topical papaine, but what about hyaluronic acid? Should it be used topically (as well as internal if chosesn)? Really, what are you referring to here? topical or internal? That's more clear i guess haha...

Also, AR, have you tried either of these and where did prague get his papaine from?

Yanks wrote:I know prague had used topical papaine, but what about hyaluronic acid? Should it be used topically (as well as internal if chosesn)? Really, what are you referring to here? topical or internal? That's more clear i guess haha...

Also, AR, have you tried either of these and where did prague get his papaine from?

Prague used the papain / HA topically and then started using the papain internally, but I don't think the internal aspect regarding this topical in particular will make that much of a difference.

I haven't tried this (though I may), what I'm doing using ionic elements is allowing my body to do this for me (detoxify, activate enzymes, the list is rather long). Also, the Hyaluronic acid part should be covered with the colloidal copper seeing as it activates collagen enzymes. Thus far in my use I've had a nasty shed, then my skin started to get really nice and I've been dropping very few hairs ever since (2 days)... I'm a little hesitant to praise it up yet.

I'll be using this.


http://www.elsomresearch.com/shopping/products/skin-resurfacing.htm

hmm how would one go about using topical HA? Is it sold like that or must something be prepared using pills and opening them up and mixing them? I don't usually like the idea of this because of all the fillers added to supps.

https://immortalhair.forumotion.com/natural-hair-regrowth-f1/manganese-copper-iodine-cobalamin-ratio-cs-jdp-ih-community-t3807.htm

It's a pain in the ass, but please read the posts in this topic, as I feel there is good evidence / information to support the fact that the topical might not be necessary. I'm currently getting some benefit from this, you'll all be the first to know if I start seeing regrowth.

Believe me I've been keeping up on that thread haha. VERY interesting stuff that I'm still trying to digest. Haven't posted bc I don't have anything to add. I don't think I read anything specifically about topical HA in there though. I guess you're saying it won't be necessary bc the minerals will balance everything out right?

Yanks wrote:Believe me I've been keeping up on that thread haha. VERY interesting stuff that I'm still trying to digest. Haven't posted bc I don't have anything to add. I don't think I read anything specifically about topical HA in there though. I guess you're saying it won't be necessary bc the minerals will balance everything out right?

I might be, I'm unwilling to say anything "for sure". But I think we're all on to something, looking at calcifications implications in every major treatment used on this site, and every condition associated with MPB

Sorry to resurrect an old thread, I think fibrosis of the scalp may be a MAJOR factor here. Consider:

1. We've seen a lot of manual methods popping up. Intense massage (dutemescence), dermarolling, and intense brushing could all help break up scar tissue. Ordinary massage and light brushing probably would not do this, even though they would increase blood flow. I don't think blood flow is the key to these therapies.
2. Glycolic acid peels can also break up scar tissue.
3. Copper peptides discourage scarring and lead to more synthesis, but also more breakdown, of collagen. Scar tissue is characterized by lots of collagen arranged in such a way as to make it tough.
4. Minoxidil inhibits collagen synthesis.
5. DHT increases collagen synthesis.

It also explains why treatments take so much time - no magic topical or pill will cause the connective tissue to break down and reform immediately. Not sure how the prostaglandins would fit in with this though. And it's just a theory of course - I could be way off here.

Thoughts?

Blood flow is certainly a key...

But so is what's in the blood (CS territory- nutrition, supplements)

and so is the level of pathogens in the scalp (rdkml, Will Gaunitz territory)

and so is the level of toxicity and stress you are exposed to (my area of interest)

and so is whether you are doing anything extra to stimulate regrowth (LLLT for example)

No one thing will fix all of this. You have to be dedicated.

I still have 95% of all my hair and now getting closer to 50 years of age. I started losing at 24. First cause was formaldehyde sensitivity... and living in traditionally built buildings.

Don't get me started.

M