Best tocotrienol/tocopherol supplements?

Which is better? Jarrow's FamilE has tocotrienols and tocopherols. Jarrow's toco-sorb looks like it only has tocotrienols. Then there is this http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/pin/isoe.html Also cranberry seed oil is supposed to be rich in tocotrienols.

Toco-8 by Primordial Performance is by far the best that I've seen.

I dig the E-Gem Elites by Carlson.

http://www.iherb.com/ProductDetails.aspx?c=1&pid=2789&at=0

Carlson is insane about the quality of their products.

how long does one can of toco-8 last?

One month, and there is a 10% discount code that ya can use as well which I can find out for you if you're interested. Toco-8 is unique because it has the exact ratio of mixed tocotrienols needed rather than having a bunch of tocopherols that dwarf the amount of tocotrienols. Also, the product is fresher being ground up rather than gelatinized.

Hey im curious as to what benefits tocotrienols and tocopherols has against growing hair or against hairloss?

youngbalder - Tocotrienols have shown to increase hair growth by some 40%.

CausticSymmetry wrote:youngbalder - Tocotrienols have shown to increase hair growth by some 40%.

Topically, or internally?

I enjoy rice bran solubles in regards to a great source of toco's.

I use "Life Extension" Gamma E tocopherol/ tocotrienols.
Its one of the best and I thing its more potent than toco-8.

I hope it helps.

Shane--

You have to check the tocopherol to tocotrienol ratio. I've yet to find a product that has the proper ratio as does Toco-8.

For a great source of toco's and an raw vegan protein check out sun warrior rice protein. It is pricey but it covers a lot of areas, plus it mixes in way better than hemp and tastes better than spirulina. Of course I still use those two but to a lesser degree now.

"Sun Warrior Protein is high in Tocopherols and Tocotrienols, powerful antioxidants known collectively as Super Vitamin E. This is due to the unique bio-fermentation processing method which preserves the bran of the whole grain brown rice with the sprouted endosperm. "

http://www.sunfood.com/buy/1/34/445/Sun-Warrior-Protein--Vanilla--1Kg-2-2lbs--raw--GMO-free--vegan-/1398.aspx

Has anyone noticed a change in hair loss or regrowth after adding tocotrienols to their regimen.

I have used it 3 months thus far and have nothing to report.

A poster at another forum provided this, enjoy :

Tocopherol-Free Tocotrienol: Are Tocotrienols Essential?
by Dr. Barrie Tan

Lately, interest in a vitamin E product called tocotrienol has been growing. Is it new? What about this sub-component has revitalized interest in this much studied nutrient as it relates to health?

That might be easier to answer by explaining what is known. Vitamin E is the body's naturally occurring lubricant or anti-clotting agent and a very powerful antioxidant that helps destroy harmful free radicals (toxins) in the body. Without adequate amounts of vitamin E, the risk of heart disease, cancer, and many other degenerative diseases increases drastically. Past focus on vitamin E has been its alpha-tocopherol form. Since it has been most studied, it is the best known of its eight isomers and has been found to have the highest bioavailability to the cells.

Vitamin E is the collective name for its set of the aforementioned eight related isomers: alpha-, beta-, gamma-, and delta-tocopherol; and alpha-, beta-, gamma-, and delta-tocotrienol; which are fat-soluble vitamins.

We have always known that tocotrienols are part of the vitamin E molecular chain; however, they are just now coming more to the forefront because recent studies that added tocotrienols to the supplement regimens of those who suffer with health issues ranging from diabetes, highcholesterol, arterial damage, heart health, cancer, and more have shown fantastic results.

A LITTLE SCIENCE
All forms of tocopherols and tocotrienols have antioxidant capabilities, but tocotrienols display up to 50 times greater antioxidant potential than tocopherols. And because of its shape, deltatocotrienol is usually more potent in delivering benefits.

Unfortunately, because tocotrienols are less available in foods and plants, the cost to gather adequate amounts for use as a dietary supplement can be prohibitive to many companies. To offset these costs, many companies offer products that "contain" tocotrienols mixed in with other less expensive substances, such as soy, palm, and rice bran oils to name a few. These products are generally called "full-spectrum E," because they "contain" all eight isomers from multiple sources.

Vitamin E is found in the oily or fatty areas of plants, which it needs and uses as a protectant. There are three major sources of tocotrienols: rice bran oil (25% tocopherols : 75% tocotrienols), palm oil (50% tocopherols : 50% tocotrienols), and Annatto (essentially tocopherol-free or contains only tocotrienols 100%). As mentioned before, many tocotrienol products are available now that include alpha-tocopherol.

However, what most companies don't tell you is alpha-tocopherol interferes with the function of tocotrienol. For example, researchers concluded that effective tocotrienol preparations should contain less than 15% of alpha-tocopherol and more than 60% of delta- and gammatocotrienols. Total absence of alpha-tocopherol in the tocotrienol product would be optimal and should be taken at a separate time.

THE DELTA-GAMMA POWERHOUSE
Delta- and gamma-tocotrienols have been proven to be the most potent, and when there is a difference between the two, delta-tocotrienols ranks higher on potency. Thus, with the absence of alpha-tocopherol in a tocotrienol product, you receive the maximum benefit offered by tocotrienols. Their high bio-availabilty have been shown in research on cholesterol, triglycerides, blood hypercoagulation, and cancer.

Just think "delta" and "gamma," especially those tocotrienols as found in UNIQUE E Tocotrienol. This tocopherol-free tocotrienol from A.C. Grace Company delivers the highest concentrate at 125 mg per beef softgel. Also available is UNIQUE E Mixed Tocopherols Concentrate - a pure form of high-gamma, high-alpha, beta- and deltatocopherols completely free of fillers of any kind.

TOCOTRIENOLS vs. TOCOPHEROLS?
A mix of both tocopherol forms of vitamin E (especially high gamma and alpha) and tocotrienols are beneficial to the human body. It is highly recommended to take a regimen of pure mixed tocopherols in the morning with your meal, and Annatto tocotrienol taken either at lunch or dinner with your meal. All vitamin E isomers are lipidsoluble supplements and are best taken with a meal, preferably dinner. Absorption is poor when these supplements are taken on an empty stomach.

THE TOCOTRIENOL "PRESCRIPTION"
For antioxidant protection and cardiovascular benefits, 20-25 mg/day and 100 mg/day, respectively, should be taken. For cellular protection or disease-specific focus, a higher potency of approximately 200 mg/day or more is suggested.

Hey guys what about TOCO-SORB? I know that it´s not the most powerful source of TOCO.... But is it potent?

Once in a while, on PrimordialPerformance.com's forums, I'll see a poster make a comment about how much their hair has thickened up on Toco-8. I ordered a 3-month supply that should be in today.

Hey guys,

I am finding that Toco-8 should be taken separately from curcumin and resveratrol combination.

More later,
TN

tommmash wrote:Hey guys what about TOCO-SORB? I know that it´s not the most powerful source of TOCO.... But is it potent?

I want to try this too..seems to have most of Toco-8 and for a lot less price and a whole lot more convenient i.e. just a vegicap and not shovelling powder into a drink of your choice every day

During the summer months, hair, in what I considered my safe areas, seemed to be thinning quite a bit. I initially attributed this to the type of brand that I was using at the time (e.g. LEF Super Bio). But now, I am not so sure. I recently decided to take my tocotrienols, Toco-8, at a different time (evening) from the curcumin/resveratrol combination (morning). And my hair has thickened right back up .

I have read about the possibility of some antioxidants canceling out the benefits of another, if taken at the same time (e.g. curcumin and green tea). Perhaps this is what occurs with curcumin (or resveratrol) and tocotrienols.

The Natural wrote:During the summer months, hair, in what I considered my safe areas, seemed to be thinning quite a bit. I initially attributed this to the type of brand that I was using at the time (e.g. LEF Super Bio). But now, I am not so sure. I recently decided to take my tocotrienols, Toco-8, at a different time (evening) from the curcumin/resveratrol combination (morning). And my hair has thickened right back up .

I have read about the possibility of some antioxidants canceling out the benefits of another, if taken at the same time (e.g. curcumin and green tea). Perhaps this is what occurs with curcumin (or resveratrol) and tocotrienols.

Natural - How many scoops of Toco-8 are you taking?

I've been taking E-gems Elite for the past few months. http://www.iherb.com/E-Gems-Elite-Natural-Vitamin-E-200-IU-120-Soft-Gels/14788?at=0
Probably not as good/balanced as Toco-8, but it's way cheaper so whatever. Toco-Sorb looks like it's missing tocopherols completely, so FamilE is probably better, but more expensive than E-gems.

hopeful, just taking one scoop in the evening after dinner.

j87x, vitamin E's tocopherols have not been shown to do anything for the hair. It's the tocotrienols that we want. Now, there is literature that suggests tocotrienols should be taken separately from tocopherols to get the maximum benefit. However, "the amount naturally present in Toco-8 is not enough to interfere with the benefits from the tocotrienols."

Still, A.C. Grace makes an all-tocotrienol (no tocopherol) supplement that I will try soon. It, too, is expensive though .

Thanks... guess I better switch to either Toco-8 or TocoSorb.

I take this:

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/SWU355/ItemDetail?n=0

Has CoQ10 and Omega 3 (EPA) in it too.

Goten-

over at HLF you stated that you do well on tocotrienols and possibly have seen a decrease in shedding and thickening/some regrowth .How is it going ?
You take 2 caps daily ?