Another High-Fructose Corn Syrup commercial

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEbRxTOyGf0


I just watched a commercial for HFCS basically accusing the anti-HFCS people of being closed minded and stupid.

What boggles my mind is the fact that the U.S. spends $190 Billion to subsidize the genetically modified corn
only to provide cheap High Fructose Corn Syrup to the soft drink industry. Then we spend billions in Health-care
to treat diabetes, Liver Disease...etc, etc, etc.

Here are a few rebuttals to the HFCS commercials.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67NMir6K0xk&feature=related
Dr. Vincent Bellonzi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi6fK1PvQK4&feature=fvw

Wow it's like a slap to the face. Unfortunately, many people don't question what they hear.

Dave228 wrote:Wow it's like a slap to the face. Unfortunately, many people don't question what they hear.

That is the problem with our society. People watch tv and absorb this fabricated consensus opinion brought forth by our Drug and Food industry leaders. An FDA that cared would make its job to combat this problem. Unfortunately the FDA is stacked with these industry officials. I recommend watching the movie "Food Inc" for a taste of what really goes on behind the scenes. If your heart still beats, it will sicken you to your core.

I actually did a huge research project with about 4 other people on GMOs. Same situation where money is the blindfold that no one seeks to remove.

I thought this one sums it up pretty well.

that too many people sit on their asses and don't get any exercise (due to many reasons, internet, video games, cable & satellite TV, etc). Compared to 50 and 60 years ago, people expend a lot less energy and burn fewer calories. Not to mention that many jobs in the Western world have become sedentary (sitting at a computer terminal all day, compared to working in steel mill or doing construction work) over the last 50 years or so. Calories expended by the average American now are down considerably compared to a century, even half century ago.

Nice video CS. That pretty much spells out what alot people like to sweep under the rug and call something else. HFCS is bad. Transfats are terrible. The way our food is raised and prepared by the "The Big 4" is incredulous. And then that our FDA allows, and lets these things be promoted like cigarettes were in the mid part of the last century, says it all.

The problem is not laziness. It is a little of everything but alot of the government's fault in allowing our supermarkets/restaurants and food supply in general to be flooded with and promote this stuff as if it was healthy. If you take a close look at things, our modern diet is almost engineered to create diseases like Diabetes, Heart Disease, etc, etc. Then when you get sick, we have our Pharmaceutical companies on standby ready to give you a pill(which usually leads to 13 other pills).

DM5 - Totally agree!

It's amazing to hear what most people think is healthy habits if you talk to them on the street.

Probably the only way to change the government is for enough people to recognize the problem--but pretty tough to do over all the advertising.

I got very angry the other day. Heinz ketchup did some giant press release that they were making their ketchup more healthy.

I immediately thought they were removing the high fructose corn syrup from the recipe, but instead they reducing sodium by 30mg.

Think about it -- they were announcing their product will be healthier than ever and they were leaving HFCS in the recipe.

Then think about all the people we know and love who use Heinz ketchup regularly.

It's despicable.

If you need ketchup and you have a Trader Joe's near you, switch to their own brand ketchup that has no HFCS in it and try to get your friends and family to switch to it too.

That the majority of people are largely inactive now compared a century, 75, even 50 years ago. You can eat a pristine diet, but if you don't do anything all day, not a lot of good comes from doing so.

Jocko59 wrote:That the majority of people are largely inactive now compared a century, 75, even 50 years ago. You can eat a pristine diet, but if you don't do anything all day, not a lot of good comes from doing so.

Healthy body, healthy mind. Neurtoxins like that in MSG and the like don't lend themselves to clear thought. The fact that we are programmed to instantly think it is all a choice is part of the problem. While it is your choice, what you eat and such, you are absolutely bombarded with bad health propaganda made to look good. Yes, video games and armchairin doesn't help, but they are not the problem. If your eating healthy food, then you are more likely to make better decisions when it comes to exercise and all aspects of health.

This junk food engenders not only disease and such, but poor thought processes(ADD, ADHD, Anxiety)etc. Sitting around all day has nothing to do with the fact the HFCS is bad for you. In fact it is a totally different discussion. This topic was about HFCS, not about laziness.

The government is trying to poison everyone.

Also, the Apollo moon landings were filmed on a Hollywood sound stage, Bush blew up the levees in New Orleans during Hurricane Katrina in order to flood the Ninth Ward, AIDs was created by the CIA in order to kill off the black community; and don't forget the Holocaust was staged argument to round out the conspiracy theory motive.

Hi Jocko, I remember your picks over on HLH.

Well let's see.

The Tuskegee experiment...that was fake right? Allowing advertising for cigarettes that cause Cancer was fake.....right? Nixon and watergate....fake right? JFK was assasinated by Oswald right? Umm....let's see........how many more do we have to name? The Fed is owned by the government right? You can buy organic cheap right? Are you trying to divert this conversation to laziness either because you don't understand it or you just want to argue?

HFCS has nothing to do with laziness. .

hadrion wrote:I got very angry the other day. Heinz ketchup did some giant press release that they were making their ketchup more healthy.

I immediately thought they were removing the high fructose corn syrup from the recipe, but instead they reducing sodium by 30mg.

Think about it -- they were announcing their product will be healthier than ever and they were leaving HFCS in the recipe.

Then think about all the people we know and love who use Heinz ketchup regularly.

It's despicable.

If you need ketchup and you have a Trader Joe's near you, switch to their own brand ketchup that has no HFCS in it and try to get your friends and family to switch to it too.

Is this somehow hidden in the ingredients, or is there a difference between the US and UK product?
Contents here are listed as: Tomatoes (132g per 100g ketchup), Spirit Vinegar, Sugar, Salt, Spice & Herb Extracts (contain celery), Spice.

diffuse - HFCS is an American phenomenon. They use it because of the corn subsidies which makes it very cheap to produce. In other countries, only sugar is used. So the UK uses sugar instead.

I should point out some interesting differences between sugar and HFCS. Sugar is actually much worse gram per gram and HFCS, at least in terms of hair. However, HFCS is consumed in much greater quantities than sugar because unlike sugar, HFCS does not increase leptin (hormone) to tell the stomach it is full (satisfied). Instead, the body actually produces more grehlin (hormone) which increases appetite.

So even though HFCS has a very minimal effect on blood glucose and insulin levels, HFCS must be metabolized through the liver (100%) and through ravenous consumption, it will set off metabolic syndrome because it contributes to electron shortages that will effect insulin motility and pancreas health later on.

I have never posted any pics on any website. So, what the hell are you talking about?

Do you actually think the government is trying to kill people with Corn sweetners? I mean really are you that daft? Tell everyone again how the Holocaust was staged, lol.

And if you don't think laziness has anything to do with the massive obesity problem in the U.S., then well I don't know what to tell you. There isn't much reason for any other dicussion on the subject because we will never agree.

The best thing for most people is to eat less and move around more. People in the U.S. simply eat TOO much period. Corn sweetened food or not. Unfortunately, that's too much to ask of most Americans. They would rather consume copious amounts of food and sit around all day than limit their caloric intake and do some moderate exercise. Oh well.

Jocko59 wrote:The government is trying to poison everyone.

Do you really believe that...if so, how do you sleep at night?

I personally don't think they are trying to poison everone, but when you see things like this it make me wonder.

There is a segment posting here who are conspiracy theorists about nearly everything, regardless of how fantastic and absurd the circumstances.

I'm not sure what that picture is of. But people still have free will. When people slough off the blame for their own lack of discipline onto the government or any other entity I will question their judgement. Moderation in all things would help everyone in all aspects of their lives.

85% of corn is genetically modified.

If HFCS is not sterilization then it's gross incompetence based on Monsanto's relationship with the US government.

info on GMO = http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/05/22/jeffrey-smith-interview-april-24.aspx

Even though I doubt there was any premeditation, the money generation from these profits turn a blind eye to any of the consequences.

It's kind of amazing to think that GMOs were put on the market for mass consumption, without labeling in the United States, with insufficient research of safety.

Third generation mice with hair growing out of their tongue is pretty curious stuff.

The way these genetically modified crops are engineered is downright scary.

CausticSymmetry wrote:Even though I doubt there was any premeditation, the money generation from these profits turn a blind eye to any of the consequences.

It's kind of amazing to think that GMOs were put on the market for mass consumption, without labeling in the United States, with insufficient research of safety.

Third generation mice with hair growing out of their tongue is pretty curious stuff.

The way these genetically modified crops are engineered is downright scary.

CS, will you tell me why genetically modified food is bad? Will you also tell me how these crops are engineered also? Thanks.

misterE - The 2nd video (below the first) has pretty good explanation on all the problems with GMO and also a good description on how the process works.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/05/22/jeffrey-smith-interview-april-24.aspx

Also, here's a good written article:

http://english.ruvr.ru/2010/04/16/6524765.html

CausticSymmetry wrote:Even though I doubt there was any premeditation, the money generation from these profits turn a blind eye to any of the consequences.

Genetically modified crops reminds me of aspartame all over again.

I bet 20 years from now when people finally wake up, the industry will change the name from genetically modified to .... lol.

Jocko59 brought up the conspiracy theory stuff. Its pretty common knowledge that the FDA is corrupt(oh or having problems, let's say). Look at the ongoing investigations into FDA "science equipment" being outdated.(good excuse, with all the money we pay them in taxes). Things are encouraged or allowed to please SPECIAL INTERESTS. If you disagree or fail to see this, I don't know how to help you at your age.

If we put aside all conspiracy(which is your gig at this Forum to paint this us as such), the answer is that you would rather not beleive that your government is run by callous, greedy individuals who care nothing for your health(unless it involves money). You are denying that in the end money(on a lot of issues and throughout gov) has the last say and that the institutions are bought by lobbyists representing those special interests.

And by trying to paint me or anyone else as a conspiracy theorist you are trying to make yourself feel better for the things you feel you can't affect or see.

If you want to play ignorant well your doing a good job. But your fooling no one here. You trolled me on HLH and your doing it to I and others here as well. Why don't you stay over on the other forum where people will here your bullshit.

This post was about HFCS(and issues surrounding it) not about lazy people or some alternate reality you wish to beleive or divert the post to.

with the "corn syrup" conspiracy. As if the government is trying to destroy everyone's health with it. Bull Shit. Trolled you? In other words I dared question your BS, so you got pissed. That's your definition of "trolled", terrific.

I wasn't aware the the FDA had to approve corn sweetners. Did they have to approve cane sugar too? You are so far out there it's difficult to know where to begin. People like you blaming their problems on everyone but themselves. You're probably an Obama voter.