Procyanidins/Proanthocyanidins

I was thinking of adding a strong antioxidant, perhaps apple procyanidins/proanthocyanidins.
What's minimum ORAC intact/day?
Any thoughts?

This blend seems to be good, but perhaps too weak? http://www.iherb.com/ProductDetails.aspx?c=1&pid=7319

Taking three of those per day would suppy 5000 ORAC, which is probably the minimum for optimal health.

Ecklonia Cava supplies 8,300 ORAC

Misirlou you might want to know about this product incase you dont already:
http://www.iherb.com/ProductDetails.aspx?c=1&pid=4951

zerx | Nice one. I like that but it seems a bit expensive meaning one must drink quite a lot twice every day?

CS | I found the brand apple poly, it offers 25,000 ORAC/day. Could that lead to toxification?

Would this Ecklonia Cava be the better choise? Or would all three be too much?

Ecklonia does a lot of things that other antioxidants won't do. Besides the actual antioxidant activity, the various polyphenols have different actions depending on the type. If you get a "cleansing" or detox reaction it's a good thing.

If I had to choose only one, I would go with EC.

Next up would be goji. IH, have you ever munched on a few ounces of the berry. Like EC, it's one of those things that seems to very quickly produce results--I can even perceive it in my face: eyes whiter, skin more toned.

Goji is literally a super food. The best benefits are from the whole fruit. Lots of expensive juices out there.

I've only had the juice once when it was on sale at whole foods. Normally, I get the berries. The juice I had I thought was inferior to eating the whole berries, but it could have been the brand. Brands range in quality. One brand to avoid is Navitas. Every other brand I have tried so far has been good. The best deal I have gotten is 7 bucks for seven ounces. Two ounces a day will provide a major antioxidant boost. If you look at it this way, it's the same price as a starbucks coffee.

I plan on ordering a shitton of tibetan goji berries from naturalzing.com...along with raw cacao nibs. Been waiting for a bit of extra cash to do so though. Looking forward to it! I ordered 2 pounds of organic jungle peanuts to blend into peanut butter and use on my yeast-free bread from Pacific Bakery.

Btw IH, it arrived on the 10th but apparently had to be signed for. It tastes unlike regular bread...no sweetness really, and no air bubbles--very dense. I like it.

The zing site has a package of dried goji berries for $25. How should I handle them and for how long will one package last? Can someone get to much antioxidant effect?

the nidster--
that looks to be quite the premium goji. I usually get the ones from china. whole foods sells Hunza brand which is sourced in the himmalayas, but as I said, the brand I have been using with the chinese berries is cheaper and not bad at all.

I've noticed a few places stating that goji induces human growth hormone; I've heard this said about EC, as well. I wonder if this is the sort of "magic" youth quality that I associate with both.

misirlou,
You can pig-out on goji berries with abandon. Two ounces a day should provide a noticeable effect.

Awesome Gib, now I'm really excited for those berries!

Gibson wrote:You can pig-out on goji berries with abandon.

Which means?

Misirlou - It means you can eat as many as you want and probably only be healthier for it. Goji is seriously packed with an impressive collection of nutrients.

I could easily get it as a powder. What is best, dried fruits or powder? I think it's wolfberries though.

Dried fruits I believe in this particular instance. Not in all. Someone may prove me wrong!

Make sure you get Goji berries and I honestly believe that the berries are a better choice than the powder. I usually add them to whatever I am blending. The plants will grow about anywhere, so if you can get seeds at a decent price then add them to the scenery of your yard.

I tend to stay away from the juices as they are usually fermented and are more of a wine. They lose some of their health benefits while increasing the sugar content.

I purchase mine at natural zing who carrier very high quality live food products although there is also sunfood.com and rawguru.com.

pubmed study on the consumption of goji berries: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18447631?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

Just an FYI, raw chocolate actually has the highest ORAC score.

Which is?