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Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy Chamber
Hi,
I've recently been reading up on Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy, particular for my father who is to going to have heart surgery.
The benefits of Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy seem good and initially it looked clear that doing this seemed like a good idea.
However, now I'm reading that it can cause collapsed lung, and eyesight related problems such as cataracts.
From what I've read it is also said to increase Reactive Oxygen Species.
Given these potential side effects, is HBOT a good idea for use?
I've recently been reading up on Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy, particular for my father who is to going to have heart surgery.
The benefits of Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy seem good and initially it looked clear that doing this seemed like a good idea.
However, now I'm reading that it can cause collapsed lung, and eyesight related problems such as cataracts.
From what I've read it is also said to increase Reactive Oxygen Species.
Given these potential side effects, is HBOT a good idea for use?
MikeGore- Posts : 805
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Heart valve surgery is pretty routine these days. If they didnt think that he would survive it they probably wouldnt attempt it. I wouldnt worry about it too much. I have an aunt with a leaky heart valve but they dont want to operate since shes in her later 80's. If your dad is still on the younger side it should be ok.
I also read that drinking pomegranate juice is very healthy for the heart as well. Its supposed to keep fatty blockages from forming in the arteries leading in and out from the heart.
I also read that drinking pomegranate juice is very healthy for the heart as well. Its supposed to keep fatty blockages from forming in the arteries leading in and out from the heart.
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HBOT is very safe, a lot of the issues they raised are fear porn.
I've been in the HBOT a few times.
The first open heart surgeries were done in HBOT.
I've been in the HBOT a few times.
The first open heart surgeries were done in HBOT.
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The pulmonory edema that they mention is concerning though. Last year when my father had the so-called "Covid" (or Environmental Toxicity Overload Syndrome might be a more apt term), he had fluid buildup in the lungs which is the pulmonory edema and also fibrosis in the lungs. So can HBOT be good for such a person? Also can people with valve issues safely use it? I hope so.
The benefits are impressive. I read that using HBOT increased ejection fraction by 11%! https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17853707/
The benefits of HBOT is really exciting and I really think he should do it.
He will have to be assessed by a doctor before he's given the green light for HBOT.
On another note, since HBOT causes angiogenesis, can it benefit hair loss and regrowth? How you felt after the HBOT sessions CS? Any difference in the hair at all?
The benefits are impressive. I read that using HBOT increased ejection fraction by 11%! https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17853707/
The benefits of HBOT is really exciting and I really think he should do it.
He will have to be assessed by a doctor before he's given the green light for HBOT.
On another note, since HBOT causes angiogenesis, can it benefit hair loss and regrowth? How you felt after the HBOT sessions CS? Any difference in the hair at all?
Last edited by MikeGore on Thu Oct 13, 2022 1:48 pm; edited 1 time in total
MikeGore- Posts : 805
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MikeGore wrote:The pulmonory edema that they mention is concerning though. Last year when my father had the so-called "Covid" (or Environmental Toxicity Overload Syndrome might be a more apt term), he had fluid buildup in the lungs which is the pulmonory edema and also fibrosis in the lungs. So can HBOT be good for such as person? Also can people with valve issues safely use it? I hope so.
The benefits are impressive. I read that using HBOT increased ejection fraction by 11%! https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17853707/
The benefits of HBOT is really exciting and I really think he should do it.
He will have to be assessed by a doctor before he's given the green light for HBOT.
Yeah, seems because of the increase in left ventricle, could raise the risk of pulmonary edema and maybe
contraindicated with aortic stenosis.
That said, wonder if the pulmonary edema was caused from Remdesivir? It was the toxic protocol for people in the hospital with so-called C0NV!D.
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CausticSymmetry wrote:MikeGore wrote:The pulmonory edema that they mention is concerning though. Last year when my father had the so-called "Covid" (or Environmental Toxicity Overload Syndrome might be a more apt term), he had fluid buildup in the lungs which is the pulmonory edema and also fibrosis in the lungs. So can HBOT be good for such as person? Also can people with valve issues safely use it? I hope so.
The benefits are impressive. I read that using HBOT increased ejection fraction by 11%! https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17853707/
The benefits of HBOT is really exciting and I really think he should do it.
He will have to be assessed by a doctor before he's given the green light for HBOT.
Yeah, seems because of the increase in left ventricle, could raise the risk of pulmonary edema and maybe
contraindicated with aortic stenosis.
That said, wonder if the pulmonary edema was caused from Remdesivir? It was the toxic protocol for people in the hospital with so-called C0NV!D.
I don't think they gave him Remdesivir. But they were giving him Favipiravir.
Shouldn't HBOT heal the ventricles, valves and lungs?
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On another note, since HBOT causes angiogenesis, can it benefit hair loss and regrowth? How you felt after the HBOT sessions CS? Any difference in the hair at all? HBOT benefits that I have seen such as regrowing the new tissue of gangrene patients shows the potential it has to heal tissue. Perhaps it can help achieve the same for our scalps. It's the eyes related problem that is concerning me though. In one study 90% of the patients eyes were adversely affected.
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MikeGore wrote:On another note, since HBOT causes angiogenesis, can it benefit hair loss and regrowth? How you felt after the HBOT sessions CS? Any difference in the hair at all? HBOT benefits that I have seen such as regrowing the new tissue of gangrene patients shows the potential it has to heal tissue. Perhaps it can help achieve the same for our scalps. It's the eyes related problem that is concerning me though. In one study 90% of the patients eyes were adversely affected.
If you can point out the study on the eyes, I'll see if there are limitations to it, maybe an extrapolation.
For some years I worked at a place that had the largest HBOT wing in the USA, and the HBOT director told me, not really sure if he was joking or not, but he had a full head of hair and joked that it because of HBOT...again, not sure if he was serious or not. I consulted him for advice over years to get advice on a lot of stuff concerning patients with strange issues.
I only had two treatments, not close together, about 1.5 hours each time at 1.4 atmosphere depth, not the the depth for wound healing. That said, yes it's used for all kinds of purposes, lots of legs and feet saved from amputations that doctors other wise would've been more than happy to chop off to be paid big bucks.
Nothing was wrong with me, so I felt no differences, no side-effects.
But it does improve stem cell migration, which is very plausible for hair growth, not to mention the angiogenesis.
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It would make sense that it contributed to your friends full head of hair.
Here are some of the reports I was looking at. There seems to be a correlation with number of treatments and intensity with adverse effects on the eye, but what if less treatments and less intensities are a waste of time with little benefit.
Myopic shift should be treated expectantly following the cessation of HBO. During this time, temporary spectacles will assist in daily living. If changes are pronounced, early referral for further examination is justified. If visual acuity is not improving after 10 to 12 weeks, a formal assessment of the eye may reveal the presence of a cataract. If present, these will require extraction and replacement with an intraocular lens as for other causes of cataracts, at the discretion of an ophthalmic surgeon. Patients assessed before commencing HBOT should be forewarned of the high possibility of myopic shifts and the possibility of developing cataracts. Patients with early cataracts should be warned these are likely to progress more rapidly during and after HBOT
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK470454/
9 Of 15 patients with clear lenses before treatment, seven developed nuclear cataract during long-term intensive hyperbaric oxygen therapy; however, another series of patients treated with less intense hyperbaric oxygen therapy did not develop cataracts.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/cxo.12203
We found a myopic shift in almost 90% of the patients following HBOT. The largest refractive change seems to have happened between treatment start and the eye examination after 30 treatments (60 hr), possibly decelerating but not stopping thereafter.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/aos.14010
Here are some of the reports I was looking at. There seems to be a correlation with number of treatments and intensity with adverse effects on the eye, but what if less treatments and less intensities are a waste of time with little benefit.
Myopic shift should be treated expectantly following the cessation of HBO. During this time, temporary spectacles will assist in daily living. If changes are pronounced, early referral for further examination is justified. If visual acuity is not improving after 10 to 12 weeks, a formal assessment of the eye may reveal the presence of a cataract. If present, these will require extraction and replacement with an intraocular lens as for other causes of cataracts, at the discretion of an ophthalmic surgeon. Patients assessed before commencing HBOT should be forewarned of the high possibility of myopic shifts and the possibility of developing cataracts. Patients with early cataracts should be warned these are likely to progress more rapidly during and after HBOT
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK470454/
9 Of 15 patients with clear lenses before treatment, seven developed nuclear cataract during long-term intensive hyperbaric oxygen therapy; however, another series of patients treated with less intense hyperbaric oxygen therapy did not develop cataracts.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/cxo.12203
We found a myopic shift in almost 90% of the patients following HBOT. The largest refractive change seems to have happened between treatment start and the eye examination after 30 treatments (60 hr), possibly decelerating but not stopping thereafter.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/aos.14010
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Contradictory information in studies. Not very clear at this point if HBOT is beneficial or detrimental to cardiac and cardiovascular health.
"It is now clear that HBO therapy does have detrimental effects on the cardiovascular system. However, this appears to be true after repeated sessions and there is little evidence to show that a single session can affect the cardiovascular system."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK482231/
"Hyperbaric oxygen therapy appears to improve left ventricular function, especially in the apical segments, and is associated with better cardiac performance. If our results are confirmed in further studies, HBOT can be used in many patients with heart failure and systolic dysfunction".
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31953651/#:~:text=Hyperbaric%20oxygen%20therapy%20appears%20to,heart%20failure%20and%20systolic%20dysfunction
"It is now clear that HBO therapy does have detrimental effects on the cardiovascular system. However, this appears to be true after repeated sessions and there is little evidence to show that a single session can affect the cardiovascular system."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK482231/
"Hyperbaric oxygen therapy appears to improve left ventricular function, especially in the apical segments, and is associated with better cardiac performance. If our results are confirmed in further studies, HBOT can be used in many patients with heart failure and systolic dysfunction".
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31953651/#:~:text=Hyperbaric%20oxygen%20therapy%20appears%20to,heart%20failure%20and%20systolic%20dysfunction
MikeGore- Posts : 805
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From what I've read so far, it looks like HBOT increases oxidation, thereby increase free radicals while increasing telomere length and reducing senescent cells.
So HBOT positively takes care of two hallmarks of aging, while worsening the amount of free radicals in the body(which doesn't seem to be listed as a hallmark of aging) but still seen as a contributing factor in aging.
Given this information, I wonder if HBOT in the long run, is good or bad for aging.
So HBOT positively takes care of two hallmarks of aging, while worsening the amount of free radicals in the body(which doesn't seem to be listed as a hallmark of aging) but still seen as a contributing factor in aging.
Given this information, I wonder if HBOT in the long run, is good or bad for aging.
MikeGore- Posts : 805
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I tried HBC a couple of times for about 45 min each time. Didn't feel much difference. Probably wasn't in long enough or didn't use it enough times. Yesterday, a friend let me use his Bemer or PEMF matt. https://bemergroup.com/en_US/human-line/home I used it for 8 minutes, and I'm mildly impressed. Does anybody have experience with these?
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