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ElmoSuper8
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Eyebrow hair loss
How many others have a problem with eyebrow hair loss?
My story is that my eyebrow hair loss started about 2 months after my scalp hair loss. There is a painful itch, quite similar to the scalp inflammation itch. There is dry skin/ dandruff but there has been some of that most of my adult life and it never caused hair loss, so I don't view it as the cause. The hair loss is all over the eyebrow, not just the outer third as is indicative with thyroid problems, but I'm inclined to suspect that thyroid problems can probably cause hair loss all over the eyebrow, not just the outer third.
I always thought that maybe this eyebrow hair loss might hold the key to my scalp hair loss as well, but I'm still bumbling around in the dark with no answers. I hear a lot of words like "autoimmune" and "hypothyroid" but I just don't have a clue.
Do the eyebrow hairs work by the same mechanism as the scalp hairs? Are the two related? What does it all mean?
Thanks
My story is that my eyebrow hair loss started about 2 months after my scalp hair loss. There is a painful itch, quite similar to the scalp inflammation itch. There is dry skin/ dandruff but there has been some of that most of my adult life and it never caused hair loss, so I don't view it as the cause. The hair loss is all over the eyebrow, not just the outer third as is indicative with thyroid problems, but I'm inclined to suspect that thyroid problems can probably cause hair loss all over the eyebrow, not just the outer third.
I always thought that maybe this eyebrow hair loss might hold the key to my scalp hair loss as well, but I'm still bumbling around in the dark with no answers. I hear a lot of words like "autoimmune" and "hypothyroid" but I just don't have a clue.
Do the eyebrow hairs work by the same mechanism as the scalp hairs? Are the two related? What does it all mean?
Thanks
ElmoSuper8- Posts : 362
Join date : 2013-08-14
Re: Eyebrow hair loss
Eyebrow hair exists to prevent sweat from the temples from going into the eyes. Sweat contains waste byproducts such as lactic acid and urea which cause inflammation. It could be possible that they have built up within your eyebrow follicles and prompted an auto-immune response. I used to avoid working out because, afterwards, my temples would always inflame and I'd lose hair. That was until I discovered that it was these contents in sweat which were causing this problem. When I began cleansing my scalp after a work out I stopped experiencing inflammation and hair loss. Maybe you should try cleansing your eyebrows and see if this helps.
Xenon- Posts : 1601
Join date : 2012-05-03
Location : Alpha Draconis
Re: Eyebrow hair loss
If you ask doctors it means nothing, if you ask the internet it means everything.
Eyebrow thinning can be related to hypothyroidism so you might want to get tests (TSH, T4, T3, FT4, FT3, maybe even Anti-TPO and Anti-TgAb).
Eyebrow thinning can be related to hypothyroidism so you might want to get tests (TSH, T4, T3, FT4, FT3, maybe even Anti-TPO and Anti-TgAb).
DeadlyDevice- Posts : 276
Join date : 2012-12-18
Re: Eyebrow hair loss
I read that only the outer edges thin as a result of hypothyroidism, though I wouldn't rule this out as a factor. Slow wound healing can result from hypothyroidism.
I remember when I used to eat lots of grains for a period, that my eyebrows began to inflame and flake. It was also around this time that I experienced hairline recession and vertex thinning.
I remember when I used to eat lots of grains for a period, that my eyebrows began to inflame and flake. It was also around this time that I experienced hairline recession and vertex thinning.
Xenon- Posts : 1601
Join date : 2012-05-03
Location : Alpha Draconis
Re: Eyebrow hair loss
I'm on the same boat, thinning all over eyebrows, as well hair loss everywhere else, head and body. I don't wanna go the steroids route but what else can be done?
MikeBison- Posts : 126
Join date : 2012-09-14
Re: Eyebrow hair loss
hey man idk if you messages me before I think you did. Well I explained that my eyebrows were virtually gone and now have grown in a lot. Biotin and riboflavin did the work. I was still experiencing it h though so I kept experimenting. I have found through experimentation that a tbsp of salt with 30 oz of water drinking through out the day substantially lessens the itch. Last year when I was going out with this girl she asked me why I appear to have a rash on my eyebrows and nose folds. She went as at as to lick the rash (Ikno odd...). She said it was extremely salty. This leads me to believe that sodium is essential to wound healing. Hair loss in any area of the body must be the product of low action potential. Low potassium and sodium are to blame. Then when it comes to sugar metabolism, low atp will shunt proper atpase activity wich probably results in cellular swelling and excessive water loss.ElmoSuper8 wrote:How many others have a problem with eyebrow hair loss?
My story is that my eyebrow hair loss started about 2 months after my scalp hair loss. There is a painful itch, quite similar to the scalp inflammation itch. There is dry skin/ dandruff but there has been some of that most of my adult life and it never caused hair loss, so I don't view it as the cause. The hair loss is all over the eyebrow, not just the outer third as is indicative with thyroid problems, but I'm inclined to suspect that thyroid problems can probably cause hair loss all over the eyebrow, not just the outer third.
I always thought that maybe this eyebrow hair loss might hold the key to my scalp hair loss as well, but I'm still bumbling around in the dark with no answers. I hear a lot of words like "autoimmune" and "hypothyroid" but I just don't have a clue.
Do the eyebrow hairs work by the same mechanism as the scalp hairs? Are the two related? What does it all mean?
Thanks
danthethinningman- Posts : 125
Join date : 2014-02-23
Re: Eyebrow hair loss
Interesting about salt water... that sounds like it's worth experimenting. I'm also taking Thorne B complex #6 and putting castor oil on my eyebrows.
ghai018- Posts : 193
Join date : 2012-02-16
Re: Eyebrow hair loss
after a little bit of research on sodium retention I found that it has been known for 30 years that sodium requires insulin to be token up by cells. My eyebrow itch started after low carb diet. At that same time I found myself practicly addicted to salt. All the salt in the world was just not enough. Now that I eat carbs again I don't crave salt as bad but still do to an extent. Potato chips do my body so many favors this just comes to show there is no such thing as good and bad when it comes. To food. Another observation I've made is that sucking on a jolly rancher helps the eyebrow itch for a few hours until I find myself needing sodium again. Jolly ranchers are just flucose with nothing else bound. What I'm going to start to experiment next is adding sucrose and sea salt to water and drinking it for a week. Ill let you kno of I get even better results.ghai018 wrote:Interesting about salt water... that sounds like it's worth experimenting. I'm also taking Thorne B complex #6 and putting castor oil on my eyebrows.
danthethinningman- Posts : 125
Join date : 2014-02-23
Re: Eyebrow hair loss
DeadlyDevice wrote:If you ask doctors it means nothing, if you ask the internet it means everything.
Eyebrow thinning can be related to hypothyroidism so you might want to get tests (TSH, T4, T3, FT4, FT3, maybe even Anti-TPO and Anti-TgAb).
Yeah, my doctor tested for thyroid problems, results said the thyroid was ok, but if you look on the internet apparently blood tests for thyroid can be totally useless, even Mercola says so. So I had a hair mineral analysis and it said I was in a stress burnout state, that I had clearly been experiencing stress for a long time and that I was experiencing adrenal and thyroid insufficiency. It then went on to state a lot of the symptoms I was probably experiencing which were correct.
So, does anyone know of any good thyroid suppliments?
Thanks
ElmoSuper8- Posts : 362
Join date : 2013-08-14
Re: Eyebrow hair loss
I was taking "Thyroid Energy" by Now Supplements which I think was helping with the eyebrow hair loss but I had to stop taking it because the Guggul extract gave the craziest all over body itch ever, especially on the palms of the hands and soles of the feet. Absolutely crazy. They always go one step too far with these formulas and stick in some crazy bullshit.
ElmoSuper8- Posts : 362
Join date : 2013-08-14
Re: Eyebrow hair loss
I think it's also gut related, I get scalp+eyebrow itch and block nose from bad foods, then if I take probiotics and/or do a poop it seems to clear.
ghai018- Posts : 193
Join date : 2012-02-16
Re: Eyebrow hair loss
Hi, I'm not really concerned about eyebrow itch, I'm concerned with the eyebrow hair loss.
I want to know the mechanism that makes it happen and I suspect that its probably simpler than scalp hair loss. If I can understand it and combat it, then maybe it will be the key to scalp hair loss.
I want to know the mechanism that makes it happen and I suspect that its probably simpler than scalp hair loss. If I can understand it and combat it, then maybe it will be the key to scalp hair loss.
ElmoSuper8- Posts : 362
Join date : 2013-08-14
Re: Eyebrow hair loss
ghai018 wrote:I think it's also gut related, I get scalp+eyebrow itch and block nose from bad foods, then if I take probiotics and/or do a poop it seems to clear.
Hi, what probiotic do you recommend?
Cheers
ElmoSuper8- Posts : 362
Join date : 2013-08-14
Re: Eyebrow hair loss
since you say you don't care about the it h, well you do realize it'll be hard to regrow eyebrows when you have damaged tissue. I have stated this many times I believe and that is that high dose riboflavon with high dose biotin starts eyebrow regrowth were eyebrows are missing for me. It should take a week to notice atleast minimal results. This combo doesn't eliminate the itch though. I believe Xeon is right. It is definitely a build up of metabolic by products. When I play a game of basket ball and sweat alot, the itch disappear for the day. Thyroid hormones won't so the trick. Even if they did they will further exccaborate the underlying cause wich is nutrient deficiencies. Raising your metabolic rate without replenishing cellular minerals and vitamins is like pressing on the gas peddle when your gas tank is empty.ElmoSuper8 wrote:Hi, I'm not really concerned about eyebrow itch, I'm concerned with the eyebrow hair loss.
I want to know the mechanism that makes it happen and I suspect that its probably simpler than scalp hair loss. If I can understand it and combat it, then maybe it will be the key to scalp hair loss.
danthethinningman- Posts : 125
Join date : 2014-02-23
Re: Eyebrow hair loss
Pre-script assist for probiotics so far.
ghai018- Posts : 193
Join date : 2012-02-16
Re: Eyebrow hair loss
danthethinningman wrote:since you say you don't care about the it h, well you do realize it'll be hard to regrow eyebrows when you have damaged tissue. I have stated this many times I believe and that is that high dose riboflavon with high dose biotin starts eyebrow regrowth were eyebrows are missing for me. It should take a week to notice atleast minimal results. This combo doesn't eliminate the itch though. I believe Xeon is right. It is definitely a build up of metabolic by products. When I play a game of basket ball and sweat alot, the itch disappear for the day. Thyroid hormones won't so the trick. Even if they did they will further exccaborate the underlying cause wich is nutrient deficiencies. Raising your metabolic rate without replenishing cellular minerals and vitamins is like pressing on the gas peddle when your gas tank is empty.ElmoSuper8 wrote:Hi, I'm not really concerned about eyebrow itch, I'm concerned with the eyebrow hair loss.
I want to know the mechanism that makes it happen and I suspect that its probably simpler than scalp hair loss. If I can understand it and combat it, then maybe it will be the key to scalp hair loss.
The eyebrows are not gone, and i do get regrowth, the problem is the daily fallout. I'll see what happens on the Riboflavin and biotin. So what is your regimen these days Dan?
ElmoSuper8- Posts : 362
Join date : 2013-08-14
Re: Eyebrow hair loss
Biotin, Mn, Mg, b6 and b2 but I'm inconsistent with it now. Ever since I stopped taking riboflavin daily my eyebrows grow less. It seems your case is easier to solve then mines is. Try it.
danthethinningman- Posts : 125
Join date : 2014-02-23
Re: Eyebrow hair loss
Yeah Dan, will do.
How much B6 and Manganese do you use?
How much B6 and Manganese do you use?
ElmoSuper8- Posts : 362
Join date : 2013-08-14
Re: Eyebrow hair loss
I take 200 mg of b6 w/3 grams of mg. I take 50 mg of Mn. My hair is so much thicker now. My scalp isn't even that noticable in the sun were as before it was noticable indoors. I'm just stumped at the eyebrow itch recently. This is why I believe one or the other isn't easier to solve in every case. My scalp hair is easier to solve then eyebrows in my case.ElmoSuper8 wrote:Yeah Dan, will do.
How much B6 and Manganese do you use?
danthethinningman- Posts : 125
Join date : 2014-02-23
Re: Eyebrow hair loss
Currently taking Thorne B complex 6... but it's not full of everything... any recommendations on compounds from Thorne that cover bases better?
ghai018- Posts : 193
Join date : 2012-02-16
Re: Eyebrow hair loss
ghai018 wrote:Pre-script assist for probiotics so far.
Thanks, will check this stuff out. Did you notice any benefits from it?
ElmoSuper8- Posts : 362
Join date : 2013-08-14
Re: Eyebrow hair loss
Hair wise unsure. Allergy-wise / gut wise, yes a lot.
ghai018- Posts : 193
Join date : 2012-02-16
Re: Eyebrow hair loss
It improves digestion loads... and thus unblocks all of my sinuses etc.
ghai018- Posts : 193
Join date : 2012-02-16
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