Relaxing the galea or boosting bloodflow... best solutions?

hoppipolla wrote:Did we ever get to the bottom of this?

Until I manage to solve the hormonal and health AGA triggers, it seems that correcting the poor galea bloodflow is the best solution.

I can never do it well though...

Plus, am I right in saying that relaxing the galea muscles should increase bloodflow anyway so that might work better?

Do balding scalps have tighter galeas or just more DHT in them?

Thanks, dudes!

Hoppi

SlowMoe wrote:
Tight scalps cause DHT overaccumulation by reducing the oxygen required for estradiol aromatization; thus leaving more free T in the scalp tissue for 5-ar to bind to.

hoppipolla wrote:

SlowMoe wrote:
Tight scalps cause DHT overaccumulation by reducing the oxygen required for estradiol aromatization; thus leaving more free T in the scalp tissue for 5-ar to bind to.

Ah really you think so?

I mean ultimately it all comes down to bloodflow still doesn't it, whatever the specifics are.

Relaxing muscles is probably relatively tricky (I mean hey even those straps you speak about don't succeed all the time, which seems strange doesn't it).

Perhaps a strong muscle relaxant on them?

They're weird muscles o.O

hoppipolla wrote:

SlowMoe wrote:
Tight scalps cause DHT overaccumulation by reducing the oxygen required for estradiol aromatization; thus leaving more free T in the scalp tissue for 5-ar to bind to.

Ah really you think so?

I mean ultimately it all comes down to bloodflow still doesn't it, whatever the specifics are.

Relaxing muscles is probably relatively tricky (I mean hey even those straps you speak about don't succeed all the time, which seems strange doesn't it).

Perhaps a strong muscle relaxant on them?

They're weird muscles o.O

SlowMoe wrote:

hoppipolla wrote:

SlowMoe wrote:
Tight scalps cause DHT overaccumulation by reducing the oxygen required for estradiol aromatization; thus leaving more free T in the scalp tissue for 5-ar to bind to.

Ah really you think so?

I mean ultimately it all comes down to bloodflow still doesn't it, whatever the specifics are.

Relaxing muscles is probably relatively tricky (I mean hey even those straps you speak about don't succeed all the time, which seems strange doesn't it).

Perhaps a strong muscle relaxant on them?

They're weird muscles o.O

Yeah, there is a product called cramps 911 that is supposedly a pretty strong topical muscle relaxer made with magnesium and copper, used for relieving cramps...
Also there is a topical botox like cream, I forget the name, used for wrinkles that paralyzes the muscles.

The cramps 911 seems messy, and the cream is really expensive, andy a lot would be wasted getting stuck in the hair.

I have done a LOT of research on this, spent many a sleepless night thinking about it, and spent waaay too much time at work doing research.

I think the strap, combined with brushing, anti inflam/ 5ar inhibiting topicals and ultimately the violet ray IMO are your best bet.

twice a day, once in the  morning and once in the evening
1.  let ur attention rest for 30-60 secounds on each of the following bodyparts and guess how high the tension in those areas might be :
    face, muscles of the face
    jaw and tongue
    eyes, muscles around the eyes
    ears and musclesgroup above and around the ears
    occipitalis  
    frontalis

the last two are the most important ones, because they create most the the tension in the scalp.

2. a) put your attention again on the frontalis. feel how tense it might be.
   b) contract the frontalis as hards as you can for 10 seconds.
   c) quickly relax the frontalis
   d) put your attention on the frontalis and compare the feeling of tension to before the contraction, idealy it should be more relaxed now

3. repeat step number 2 with the occipitalis muscle

4. check if the relaxation worked by putting a few fingers on top of your scalp and see if the galea moves freely by trying to push it in various directions.

alphadelta wrote:it hasnt been talked about a lot on this forum but i believe that tense scalp muscles can be easily relaxed by doing PMR (progressive muscle relaxation). Using botox to relax those muscles sounds nice.... and still i am worried about side effects since it is essentially a neurotoxin as well as it can be quite a bit expensive.

the routine i am doing now is quite simple so for anyone who is interested in relaxing their scalp muscles for free:

twice a day, once in the  morning and once in the evening
1.  let ur attention rest for 30-60 secounds on each of the following bodyparts and guess how high the tension in those areas might be :
    face, muscles of the face
    jaw and tongue
    eyes, muscles around the eyes
    ears and musclesgroup above and around the ears
    occipitalis  
    frontalis

the last two are the most important ones, because they create most the the tension in the scalp.

2. a) put your attention again on the frontalis. feel how tense it might be.
   b) contract the frontalis as hards as you can for 10 seconds.
   c) quickly relax the frontalis
   d) put your attention on the frontalis and compare the feeling of tension to before the contraction, idealy it should be more relaxed now

3. repeat step number 2 with the occipitalis muscle

4. check if the relaxation worked by putting a few fingers on top of your scalp and see if the galea moves freely by trying to push it in various directions.

throughout the day if you feel tension do a short routine with just steps 2 to 4.


will this help with stopping hairloss?...this i dont know but i do know this will make your galea relaxed and moveable and takes a "tight scalp" out of the equation in the hair loss puzzle so you got one thing less to worry about


on a side note i find doing this exercise increases scalp awareness in general the longer you do it so it will become easier to notice when you tense up during the day

Complexx wrote:

alphadelta wrote:it hasnt been talked about a lot on this forum but i believe that tense scalp muscles can be easily relaxed by doing PMR (progressive muscle relaxation). Using botox to relax those muscles sounds nice.... and still i am worried about side effects since it is essentially a neurotoxin as well as it can be quite a bit expensive.

the routine i am doing now is quite simple so for anyone who is interested in relaxing their scalp muscles for free:

twice a day, once in the  morning and once in the evening
1.  let ur attention rest for 30-60 secounds on each of the following bodyparts and guess how high the tension in those areas might be :
    face, muscles of the face
    jaw and tongue
    eyes, muscles around the eyes
    ears and musclesgroup above and around the ears
    occipitalis  
    frontalis

the last two are the most important ones, because they create most the the tension in the scalp.

2. a) put your attention again on the frontalis. feel how tense it might be.
   b) contract the frontalis as hards as you can for 10 seconds.
   c) quickly relax the frontalis
   d) put your attention on the frontalis and compare the feeling of tension to before the contraction, idealy it should be more relaxed now

3. repeat step number 2 with the occipitalis muscle

4. check if the relaxation worked by putting a few fingers on top of your scalp and see if the galea moves freely by trying to push it in various directions.

throughout the day if you feel tension do a short routine with just steps 2 to 4.


will this help with stopping hairloss?...this i dont know but i do know this will make your galea relaxed and moveable and takes a "tight scalp" out of the equation in the hair loss puzzle so you got one thing less to worry about


on a side note i find doing this exercise increases scalp awareness in general the longer you do it so it will become easier to notice when you tense up during the day

Your might not see anything if you don't use the violet ray to awaken the dormant follicles. If your follicles are too dormant, relaxing the Galea would most likely stop hairloss and grow a little hair if any. (just a couple things I've noticed/picked up)