I might have oral cancer

Visited the dentist on Friday. They discovered that I have a hard, mobile mass near the submandibular salivary gland. It's smaller than a pea. On the same side of my mouth, I've felt slight irritation of the surface of the tongue. I've felt the irritation in this area for a while now. The symptoms are not encouraging.

Hair loss seems like a distant worry now.

God help me. If any one has suggestions, please post them here.

Please pray for me. Will be undergoing tests soon. I'm so anxious I can't even read about it anymore. Scared out of my mind.

I am hoping it is a false alarm.

You should share this with someone you know in real life, it will make you feel better until some tests are run.

Here's more info: A cancer diagnosis drops the immune system and that is a big part of the problem.

Having said that, take a look at this and then watch the following movie.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20516734

CS,

Time to start smoking weed again?

imprisoned-radical wrote:CS,

Time to start smoking weed again?

Smoking it won't work.

This is distilled hemp oil.

Any any rate, would start with sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) as mentioned before.

Will start with sodium bicarbonate right away, CS. Thank you for your advice.

Assuming it is cancer, the presence of a neck mass is supposed to indicate that it has already metastasized. Would your recommendations change if that is the case?

Some things i have read before:
(1) Intravenous dosages of vitamin C
(2) Drinking infusions of sodium bicarbonate and maple syrup

Both are based on the fact that cancer cells gobble up 15 times the amount of sugar as other cell types. The cancer cells get tricked into assimilating the vitamin C (similar in chemical structure to sugar) or the sodium bicarbonate which is fused to sugar molecules, resulting in cell death.

I'm sorry for asking so many questions CS. You can be sure that in the event that you end up saving my life I'll make a massive donation.

Good luck Imprisoned radical.

This may be extremely naive but from (Modulating effect of resveratrol and quercetin on oral cancer cell growth and proliferation)

" We conclude that resveratrol or a combination of resveratrol and quercetin, in concentrations equivalent to that present in red wines, are effective inhibitors of oral squamous carcinoma cell (SCC-25) growth and proliferation, and warrant further investigation as cancer chemopreventive agents."

http://journals.lww.com/anti-cancerdrugs/abstract/1999/02000/modulating_effect_of_resveratrol_and_quercetin_on.7.aspx

abc123 wrote:I am hoping it is a false alarm.

You should share this with someone you know in real life, it will make you feel better until some tests are run.

Thanks abc. I hope it's a false alarm as well.

Yeah, I've shared with my parents and you're right it did make me feel a lot better.

Thanks for that study granger451. Been supplementing resveratrol for a while now, and as of late I've been eating tons of onions for the quercetin.

I'm sorry to hear about that, I hope it's a false alarm. Hang in there and see what the tests say.

My current obsession Markus Rothkranz claims to have completely cured his dad's cancer (prostate, but still) in a month or something like that... I'm not quite sure how he did it but it probably involved juice fasting and cleansing.

Good luck with everything man ._.

"My father got aggressive prostate cancer in his mid 70's and totally got rid of it in two months by doing 4 enemas a day and consuming nothing but fresh organic vegie and fruit juices. (no solid food) and some herbs. He got exercise, fresh air, sunlight and flushed his body so clean, it could function again. I am SO proud of him!"

When I first read imprisoned-radical, I instantly thought of the late great Antonio Gramsci. Anyways, good luck dude. I hope it is not cancer.

Very sorry to hear this. Good luck.

Re: intravenous C: supposedly liposomal C is as good or nearly as good as intravenous, but much less expensive.

This is from a website to help cancer patients (or anyone) who want intavenous-like dosages of vit. C without the hassle/expense/needles/etc. For internal use it calls for bicarb of soda so the large dosages don't upset your pH.

http://www.pdazzler.com/archives/62

Just in case it might be helpful to you.

Keep us posted.

I have been in a similar situation myself as I had hard lump removed which turned out to nothing more than cyst.

Most importantly take your mind off it. Worry does no good for anyone.
Listen to some loud and uplifting music that makes you want to dance.
Inivte someone around and watch stupidly funny films like Elf.
Go for a walk in the most isolated and beautiful bit of nature near you and take it all in.

The Gerson Therapy also seems like good diet alternative which is jucing, veg soups, coffee enemas, supplements, enzymes etc. Dr. Gonzalez also has similar but more metabolic type of approach.

I can give you more info on Gerson Therapy if you want as I have the book.

Til then we'll get the Rosary Beads out and say a prayer for you. Good luck.

IR, an unsettling development on your end, but keep your chin up. Good luck with further tests, and may it turn out to be a false alarm. In any case, positive attitude is key, do not let your spirits flag. Be back to great health with a vengeance.

best,
-9r5-

Thanks for the concern everyone.

Does anyone have an opinion on the claim that alkalizing tissues can prevent/cure cancer?
http://www.alternative-cancer-care.com/pH_Cancer_Alkaline.html
http://www.alternative-cancer-care.com/Johanna_Budwig_Cancer_Diet.html

imprisoned-radical wrote:Will start with sodium bicarbonate right away, CS. Thank you for your advice.

Assuming it is cancer, the presence of a neck mass is supposed to indicate that it has already metastasized. Would your recommendations change if that is the case?

Some things i have read before:
(1) Intravenous dosages of vitamin C
(2) Drinking infusions of sodium bicarbonate and maple syrup

Both are based on the fact that cancer cells gobble up 15 times the amount of sugar as other cell types. The cancer cells get tricked into assimilating the vitamin C (similar in chemical structure to sugar) or the sodium bicarbonate which is fused to sugar molecules, resulting in cell death.

I'm sorry for asking so many questions CS. You can be sure that in the event that you end up saving my life I'll make a massive donation.

It's probably a false alarm, yet panic with a diagnosis is often the real killer, plus the 'treatments' used.

One caveat is that different cancers require specific treatments. Many will hear about various treatments or cancer remedies, some of which have been mentioned already. If someone proclaims that "X, Y or Z" method works for cancers in general, whether it works for that specific cancer is another story.

If one looks at Gerson therapy, they should know that the success rate is hovers between 30 and 40% and that is if one has enough bioavailable minerals. Most people do not have enough of these, so the rate of success if much lower (such as zero)!

Juicing only works for certain types of cancers, and that's another story.

I mentioned earlier that green tea prevents invasion and inhibits metastasis. Good info from abc123 on the Resveratrol.

No need to use maple syrup, just the bicarbonate is fine. You can also increase your odds of success with iodine (which inhibits oral cancers) and Magnesium.

Do you have any fillings? If you do, consider oil pulling.

If you're really worried about possible metastasis, read the following.

http://www.immortalhair.org/apps/blog/show/1995859-malignant-tumor-apocalypse

^^ Cs wasn't me was granger

Oral cancer seems to occur in 0.5-1.2 males your age /100,000.

80% of those diagnosed will be somewhat moderate/strong alcohol consumers.

Smoking (tobacco) is also a strong risk factor as well.

Assuming you don't do the later two odds seem rather low.

This thread wouldn't be complete without some Peatardism, he has some interesting things to say about cancer and sugar which I will post when I find later.

Might be interested in some of this info.

http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=1605130
http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=1718583

Where is the mass, is it in the mouth, in the tongue, in the salivary gland?

I hope everything turns out ok. Keep us updated.

It's near the submandibular salivary gland. It's not in the mouth, but when I apply pressure to the area with one finger from inside the mouth, the mass is much more palpable from the outside. However it doesn't seem fixed to the salivary gland or any of the other surrounding tissues.

This is encouraging because most malignant tumors are supposed to be attached to surrounding tissues. What worries me is that the mass is painless and hard/rubbery, which is indicative of malignancy (at least in broad clinical terms). Enlarged lymph nodes caused by infection are supposed to be painful and soft.

I was hoping that it would turn out to be an enlarged lymph node, but the ENT specialist didn't think this was the case.

Had an ultrasound done yesterday evening, and will be scheduling an MRI soon.

At this point I think it's not oral cancer. I'm wondering if it could be lymphoma, which often presents itself as a hard/rubbery neck mass.

I've started drinking green tea and eating broccoli sprouts for the sulforaphane. Both of these have been shown to inhibit metastatic invasion of cancerous cells. Sulforaphane is also supposed to promote the metabolism and excretion of carcinogenic chemicals by stimulating certain enzymes responsible for detoxification. I was also surprised to find out that modified citrus pectin also has anti-metastatic properties. CS recommended sodium bicarbonate. Yesterday I began auto-urine therapy. Whatever, it can't hurt.

Cancer seems far less mapped out than the degenerative/inflammatory metabolic diseases that are discussed on this forum. Although there are definitely some important links. Read some interesting studies showing links between gingivitis/periodontitis and risk of certain cancers. HDL levels have been suggested to have a protective effect against cancer. Each 10 point increase in HDL is associated with a 28% decrease of cancer incidence - pretty impressive. Also interesting is that patients diagnosed with lymphoma who have sufficient vitamin D levels are about twice as likely to survive as the others.

Thanks for the concern. I hope everything turns out ok too.

You might want to consider conventional medicine. Here's an interesting article on Steve Jobs. It looks as though Steve Jobs shortened his life with alternative medicine:

http://www.skepticblog.org/2011/10/06/steve-jobs-succumbs-to-alternative-medicine/

This total disregard for conventional medicine is appalling on this forum. I'm not saying we should listen to everything our doctors say to us. I'm not saying that much of conventional medicine isn't B.S. But there is probably less B.S. from conventional medicine than from alternative medicine. Both sides have their share of baloney. We need to use our own due diligence to weed through it all.

The fact that it's a movable mass makes it unlikely to be serious. Best of luck and continue to follow up with CONVENTIONAL MEDICINE.

If I were in your shoes, I would do the following:-

1. Chelation through supplements to lower the xenobiotic burden within you
2. Eat & drink alkaline like my life depends on it (fungus, cancer can not prosper or live in an alkaline environment)
3. Move to a non polluted environment
4. Get a RIFE machine
5. Have access to an infra red sauna
6. Prayer, laughter and love

And of course, however you decide to handle this - good luck!

So you don't believe he should go for his MRI and at least hear what conventional medicine has to say?

Zixcreator wrote:So you don't believe he should go for his MRI and at least hear what conventional medicine has to say?

Integrative medicine in my view and experience is far superior to both. Conventional medicine is arrogant and blind sided. Alternative medicine consists of a lot of diverse opinions that often get discussed in very inconsistent manners, such as this forum and others.

I say, go with a cancer practitioner who gets results with those specific cancers involved. Nothing is black and white on this issue.

I know of several protocols that could have spared Steve Jobs. Dozens of practitioners have spoken out, but of course it gets next to zero media attention.

Hi Caustic. I agree. Integrative medicine.....good word. However concerning arrogance. 10 years ago I would have agreed with you. Now I see alternative medicine as even more arrogant right now. Isn't taking Vitamin D3 to make up for inadequate sunlight arrogant? Is vitamin D the only benefit of natural sunlight? I don't think it is. I think a conventional blood test for vitamin D is prudent. If it comes up low, I don't look at it like your only problem is that you need to take vitamin D. I look at it that you are nutrionally deficient in natural sunlight. Getting more sunlight would be prudent. Simply taking vitamin D3 is arrogant.

Zixcreator wrote:Hi Caustic. I agree. Integrative medicine.....good word. However concerning arrogance. 10 years ago I would have agreed with you. Now I see alternative medicine as even more arrogant right now. Isn't taking Vitamin D3 to make up for inadequate sunlight arrogant? Is vitamin D the only benefit of natural sunlight? I don't think it is. I think a conventional blood test for vitamin D is prudent. If it comes up low, I don't look at it like your only problem is that you need to take vitamin D. I look at it that you are nutrionally deficient in natural sunlight. Getting more sunlight would be prudent. Simply taking vitamin D3 is arrogant.

I agree that there is probably some arrogance on both sides, however there are effective ways for specific cancers. All too often people generalize about what is effective for all cancers, when specificity is called for.

Regarding vitamin D, the devil is in the details with these things always. Before I get into that, cancer treatments for any specific cancer must be done holistically, not in isolation. Back to vitamin D: Even two hours of sun exposure during the summer months when there is adequate UVB radiation does not allow sufficient vitamin D. Of course a safe tanning bed would be optimal, but when it comes to cancer...taking Vitamin D after the fact isn't going to help according to the research. What matters is your D-levels before the cancer. It acts more as a preventive more than a treatment.

Further, vitamin D alone isn't going to do the job, there are co-factors (animal form vitamin A, among others).

I could list dozens of viable treatments (I won't and do not have the time), but just saying, it should be treated with several approaches. I look for the origin when possible. Conventional medicine hasn't a clue on how to find an origin. Also, there is most definitely a stress component. Once someone gets a diagnosis, their immune system shoots down over 70%, that's game over for many, especially when you kill them with cancer-causing radiation and chemo.