Murdoch and vaccines...

http://www.naturalnews.com/033062_Rupert_Murdoch_Andrew_Wakefield.html

Interesting stuff. Some friend of my parents attempted to "do good" by sending an email to my sister, warning her to not be afraid of anti-vaccine "propaganda" saying that Andrew Wakefield was 'discredited.'

Of course, I took the liberty to fire back, they responded and I responded again with some literature that showed that Wakefield was vindicated twice.

The person did not want to engage in the discussion any longer, but it seem that they were more interested in being right than wanting the truth.

The world is already a scary place, do I have it right that it's mandatory to vaccinate animals in some states?

CausticSymmetry wrote:Interesting stuff. Some friend of my parents attempted to "do good" by sending an email to my sister, warning her to not be afraid of anti-vaccine "propaganda" saying that Andrew Wakefield was 'discredited.'

Of course, I took the liberty to fire back, they responded and I responded again with some literature that showed that Wakefield was vindicated twice.

The person did not want to engage in the discussion any longer, but it seem that they were more interested in being right than wanting the truth.

The world is already a scary place, do I have it right that it's mandatory to vaccinate animals in some states?

Especially when it comes to health, people want to be right, because the ramifications are huge.

I assume you have a neice or nephew?

A > R - That's correct. I know parents and their kids who have not been vaccinated and of course I know ones that have. It's scary that I can tell a difference.

I know a lot of people, including myself who believe that vaccines have screwed them up for some years. I haven't had a vaccine since I was 11 and only wish I could have prevented the others.

It's horrible that the difference is visible but I believe it completely. Hope your sister makes the right choice, I believe she's the Simonis who sometimes posts on the HealthyFixx articles so I assume she will take your good advice.

As for me I'd fight tooth and nail to have my family stay away from chemo, vaccines, etc. My aunt recently went through breast cancer and it was a similar reaction.

They asked me my advice because of all my research, and I gave it to them (which was basically just your advice directly quoted).

They got uptight and completely angry at me, and began to hold a resentment towards me.

Now when they ask, I can't help but keep my mouth shut and yet I get the same reaction. It's not really their fault, they're terrified.

Do they know about the place in Ecuador to cure the breast cancer 100% with a lifetime guarantee?

No, but it's beyond me bringing it up now. I would get an eye-roll and a smirk.

I would love some more information either way though.

Some older stuff on cancer. You may have already seen it.

It's too bad you get the smirk and the eye-roll. I got that once a few years ago when some relative who
didn't know any better overheard me remark that coconut oil is good for you.

http://www.immortalhair.org/apps/blog/show/3913065-eradicating-breast-cancer

http://www.immortalhair.org/apps/blog/show/3895109-avoid-rushing-into-cancer-treatment

Chemo and Radiation have a 3% (at best) success rate, except for only two types of cancer.

Ask them where did any of those billions and billions of dollars go towards any cure?

Most chemo practitioners in a poll said they would not go through the treatment.

I spent a night going through all of your daily topics, had just forgotten a lot of them. All, fantastic reading.

About the coconut oil, nobody in my family believes it either, haha. I've gotten the strangest looks, when rushing out the door with somebody else, they'll reach out and grab a bagel whereas I'll grab a spoonful of the oil. The comments are usually "Aren't you worried about all that FAT!?"

I've heard the statistics about the chemo practitioners success rates, haha, it's just craziness.

What really bugs me lately, and this is a sentiment you must share, is how many emerging abstracts I've read that could easily point towards new therapies under a new view of disease and health, and they just get published and sit there on their asses.

Case in point is from the experimental gut flora transplants that has shown titanic results in Mice. It could have endless potential for human health, and what movement there is on that research is minimal. During World War II the US mobilized, armed themselves, and won the war in a little over three years. A blink of the eye, the same could easily be done with a lot of disease.

Of course, wars are only profitable when you're fighting them.

A > R - The problem is of course that most people believe that most dentists and doctors know the very best, all "confirmed" by the mighty "idiot box" we call a TV.

It's kind of amazing to think that people worry about not getting vaccinated. Imagine if they knew what was in them. The total disconnect between mercury placed directly into the mouth, closest to the brain.

Like you said, all the information is there to prove we are right, but somehow there is no legitimacy because
the government and established medicine hasn't informed the public about it.

The truth about most of this will not be publicly acknowledged, at least not all at once, but only in small steps, so that when all of the information is completely out, no one who was completely responsible will be alive. Of course if there are jobs or funding attached to it, the omission will continue.

CS, that was actually me a year ago writing about Mayo Clinic and Radio Frequency Ablation at the bottom of your Daily Topic, lol.

It says that RFA is FDA approved, although it doesn't mention breast cancer specifically. So is this a realistic treatment option here in the US?

Could I get a list of some literature that I can show to my son's mom about this vaccination stuff? I have had to go rounds with her about everything from vaccinations to circumcision and raw milk, and pretty much lost on everything so far. Her mom is a nurse so she just defaults to her and I end up looking like a wacko to everyone. Frustrating as hell.

thissucks wrote:CS, that was actually me a year ago writing about Mayo Clinic and Radio Frequency Ablation at the bottom of your Daily Topic, lol.

It says that RFA is FDA approved, although it doesn't mention breast cancer specifically. So is this a realistic treatment option here in the US?

Sure RFA is FDA approved, but curing cancer is illegal in the United States. The reason the treatment is in Ecuador is due to what the FDA so often does when they are made aware of it. Also the critical step in the process is what they also do with the dental work. If the dental work is not dealt with the cancer will come back. So they deal with the teeth first, then ablate it.

Irenicus wrote:Could I get a list of some literature that I can show to my son's mom about this vaccination stuff? I have had to go rounds with her about everything from vaccinations to circumcision and raw milk, and pretty much lost on everything so far. Her mom is a nurse so she just defaults to her and I end up looking like a wacko to everyone. Frustrating as hell.

That sounds horrible--I'm really glad I'm not in that position, and I do know of people who are. I couldn't imagine having to explain to someone--hey don't let them inject something that probably contains one or more of several substances that have highly toxic reactions, without any benefit and a potential change of sustained injury, and have them blatantly disregard it because it's "approved" by the 'all knowing establishment.'

Nurse are the worst. The level of arrogance combined with ignorance is profound. I usually try if I make the attempt at all, to explain that drinking raw milk creates the 'risk' of very long life. It would seem curious that farmers who grew up on raw milk seem to be unusually robust. It is without irony that these types rarely see inside of a hospital except for cases of acute trauma. Living to the age of 100 is not unusual for people who drink raw milk throughout their lives.

Circumcision is a tough one, because people believe in the germ theory and that is extremely difficult to explain against. They probably don't care about the other side effects.

On vaccinations, the following site is very objective, it reveals the truth on what these poisons are:

http://www.nvic.org/

There are other ones, I posted a good one just a few days ago, but I cannot find it. It gets into the history of the scam. The one above is very objective and doesn't come right out and blast them, so it will just portray vaccines in a very neutral manner without directly attacking it head on.

You might try for what it is worth to explain that medicine is not in the business of health, the entire industry is supported by the pharmaceutical industry. Sick management is being polite. I think a more proper term would be something analogous to a popular government quote, "break their legs and hand them a crutch."

Finally, you can say that there's tons of research that support all of your views. Do they keep up with the medical literature? Probably not.

Appreciated sir. That site is good, love how it lists the vaccine laws and requirements for every state.

I have had some victories in the arena of food, but have had to pick and choose a lot of arguments. Luckily he is still quite young, under 2, and I can hopefully get the rest of the million vaccinations omitted. Being tired and adjusting to a new life as a parent also has left me so drained and fatigued sometimes that I just don't want to fight, which now I wish I would have. Oh well, such is life I guess. Learn from it and try to do what I can from now on.

CausticSymmetry wrote:
I know a lot of people, including myself who believe that vaccines have screwed them up for some years. I haven't had a vaccine since I was 11 and only wish I could have prevented the others.

I have asthma so my healthcare system grants me and the old, free vaccines for things such as flu before others can pay for them and I reckon they've screwed me up. After my last flu jab I felt depressed for about 2 weeks after and kept having panic attacks.

Whats the best way to recover? Chelation?

tooyoung wrote:

CausticSymmetry wrote:
I know a lot of people, including myself who believe that vaccines have screwed them up for some years. I haven't had a vaccine since I was 11 and only wish I could have prevented the others.

I have asthma so my healthcare system grants me and the old, free vaccines for things such as flu before others can pay for them and I reckon they've screwed me up. After my last flu jab I felt depressed for about 2 weeks after and kept having panic attacks.

Whats the best way to recover? Chelation?

Chelation and adequate Vitamin D. Why vitamin D? It raises glutathione levels. Mothers who bear children with the highest vitamin D levels have the lowest incidence of producing autistic children. Vitamin D helps them chelate the vaccine poisons better.

Thanks for the reply CS.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/10/30/the-greater-good.aspx?e_cid=20111103_DNL_Art_1

Mercola was plugging this documentary. It's supposed to be free to view until Nov 5