Curing a fatty liver...

Hoppipolla wrote:Hi

Basically, I believe that along with fairly small group of other things, fatty liver is one of the big culprits behind MPB (as it makes the liver more toxic leading to less removal of androgens from the blood and worse hormonal balance).

And I'm pretty sure I have it in some form as well Fats make me bloated, eggs give me reactions, and all that junk

I was wondering... how do I heal it?

I am currently taking apple cider vinegar, choline and sulphur (in garlic), and also liver flushing sometimes, and although I thought that would be enough, I still have these symptoms.

What do you think everyone? How DO you cure a fatty liver?


Thanks


Hoppi!

Pathways underlying iron accumulation in human nonalcoholic fatty liver disease1,2,3
Elmar Aigner, Igor Theurl, Milan Theurl, Dieter Lederer, Heike Haufe, Otto Dietze, Michael Strasser, Christian Datz and Guenter Weiss
1 From the Department of Internal Medicine, General Hospital Oberndorf, Oberndorf, Austria (EA, DL, and CD); the Department of General Internal Medicine, Department of Immunology and Infectious Diseases, Medical University of Innsbruck, Austria (IT, MT, and GW); the Department of Pathology (HH and OD) and the First Department of Medicine (MS), Paracelsus Private Medical University Salzburg, Austria

Background: Mild iron overload is frequently observed in nonalcoholic fatty liver disease (NAFLD).

Objective: We aimed to study putative pathways underlying iron accumulation in NAFLD.

Design: Hepatic and duodenal expression of critical iron molecules in NAFLD patients with (n = 32) and without (n = 29) iron overload, hereditary hemochromatosis (n = 10), and controls (n = 20) were investigated. Phlebotomy treatment was performed in 14 NAFLD patients.

Results: The hepatic expressions of the iron-export protein ferroportin-1 (FP-1) and of the iron-sensing molecule hemojuvelin (HJV) were significantly lower in NAFLD patients. The mRNA expression of the iron-regulatory peptide hepcidin was increased in NAFLD patients with iron overload, which was paralleled by low duodenal FP-1 expression. Hepatic mRNA and serum protein concentrations of tumor necrosis factor-α (TNF-α) were increased in NAFLD patients and were inversely correlated with both liver FP-1 and HJV mRNA and positively associated with body mass index and hepatic hepcidin mRNA. Accordingly, TNF-α inhibited the FP-1 and HJV mRNA formation in HepG2 cells. Phlebotomy treatment of NALFD patients reduced serum ferritin, transferrin saturation, and TNF-α concentrations and improved liver function tests.

Conclusions: Iron accumulation in NAFLD may result from an impaired iron export due to down-regulation of FP1 and ineffective hepatic iron sensing, as indicated by low HJV expression. TNF-α appears to play a role in exerting these regulatory changes. Increased hepcidin formation in iron-overloaded NAFLD patients, however, results in decreased duodenal FP-1 expression, whereas a reduction in liver FP-1 may perpetuate hepatic iron retention. Phlebotomy offers a safe and efficient therapy for these metabolic disturbances.

crincrin wrote:Have you seen a doctor about it? Fatty liver can be diagnosed by ultrasound.

Hoppipolla wrote:

crincrin wrote:Have you seen a doctor about it? Fatty liver can be diagnosed by ultrasound.

wow can it really? Do you know if the test is reliable?

I guessed that stones could be seen by ultrasound, but you think they can actually see the fat too? That would be just brilliant to actually have a solid diagnosis.

Hoppipolla wrote:Hi

Basically, I believe that along with fairly small group of other things, fatty liver is one of the big culprits behind MPB (as it makes the liver more toxic leading to less removal of androgens from the blood and worse hormonal balance).

And I'm pretty sure I have it in some form as well Fats make me bloated, eggs give me reactions, and all that junk

I was wondering... how do I heal it?

I am currently taking apple cider vinegar, choline and sulphur (in garlic), and also liver flushing sometimes, and although I thought that would be enough, I still have these symptoms.

What do you think everyone? How DO you cure a fatty liver?


Thanks


Hoppi!

Hoppipolla wrote:but surely there's a supplement that will just PURGE all that cholesterol out of it, and out of my entire body? I thought that it might be choline, seeing as it's a natural emulsifier like bile is?

there must be a supplement that can just nuke cholesterol...

Hoppipolla wrote:but surely there's a supplement that will just PURGE all that cholesterol out of it, and out of my entire body? I thought that it might be choline, seeing as it's a natural emulsifier like bile is?

there must be a supplement that can just nuke cholesterol...

finemrespice wrote:iF NOT W/ MEAL THEN WHEN? tHANKS CAUSTIC!!!

CausticSymmetry wrote:Why on earth would you want to purge any cholesterol from your body?

Please read this article which gets into the function of cholesterol in the body:

http://healthyfixx.com/health/15/the-truth-about-statin-drugs-may-cause-heart-attacks

Hoppipolla wrote:

CausticSymmetry wrote:Why on earth would you want to purge any cholesterol from your body?

Please read this article which gets into the function of cholesterol in the body:

http://healthyfixx.com/health/15/the-truth-about-statin-drugs-may-cause-heart-attacks

lol I meant bad cholesterol

Isn't it only the bad kind that currently may be accumulating in my liver?

finemrespice wrote:THANK YOU.

Mastery wrote: No only Lipoprotein A - and that is easily cured by... DIET & EXERCISE....

and if you want/ must do supps too, then Proline, Lysine and Mg Ascorbate will whack Lipoproten A levels straight down.

The truly difficult thing with diet is the discipline required, that's all...

Hoppi - REMEBER THIS - your cells turnover every 6 months, put good stuff in and exercise and live in a clean environment and think positive thoughts and a lot can change in 3 years with 6 cell trunovers...

M