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Post  unfortunate Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:06 pm

So I got an e-mail from a client today talking about possible fallout from Japan travelling over here on the Jet stream in the next 36 hours (west coast). They are claiming that Potassium-iodide supplemenation could help prevent it damage.

Any thoughts on fallout reaching here and if so is this supplementation something to look into?

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Post  CausticSymmetry Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:19 pm

unfortunate - Yes, the best thing to do is to take plenty of potassium iodide (or Lugol's)

If you have any Lugol's solution on hand that would be good to take in large amounts.

Or if you happen to have SSKI (super saturated potassium iodine), that would be good too.

Since the Tsunami happened, I have been loading up on extra iodine in case the jet stream steers the radiation this way.

There's also Beta-1,3 1/6 Glucan.

Beyond that, essential fatty acids, water and fat soluble antioxidants.


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Post  crincrin Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:07 pm

Yep, the iodine displaces radioactive iodine from the body, saving the thyroid.

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Post  LA-Night Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:27 pm

Is it safe to give iodine to pets dogs or cats, for instance?

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Post  Irenicus Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:53 pm

What would the best thing to do for young children in a case like this? Talking about under 2 years old. Not sure if giving high doses of iodine to a child that young wouldn't be a terrible idea.
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Post  Directo Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:27 pm

CausticSymmetry wrote:
There's also Beta-1,3 1/6 Glucan.
When to take? Before exposure? After? During?
Are there any side effects known?

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Post  Directo Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:28 pm

And what about Pifitrin-Alpha compound? Is it on the market? Is it safe?

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Post  LA-Night Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:24 am

Lots of important questions in here. From a current events perspective, this is an important thread.

I know people are edgy right now but hopefully we can get a discussion going.

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Post  act<react Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:31 am

LA-Night wrote:Lots of important questions in here. From a current events perspective, this is an important thread.

I know people are edgy right now but hopefully we can get a discussion going.

After seeing the aftermath of Chernobyl first hand I completely agree, this needs and deserves to be talked about with great attention.

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Post  CausticSymmetry Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:35 am

Radiation will go directly into the thyroid, and it affected the population around the region for several years (lots of thyroid problems).

In the young, would introduce at least some iodine. It's not toxic, it's an essential mineral. Only when we have exposed to poisons long enough that build up into tissue, does iodine even cause a potential detox reaction.


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Post  LA-Night Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:45 am

CausticSymmetry wrote:Radiation will go directly into the thyroid, and it affected the population around the region for several years (lots of thyroid problems).

In the young, would introduce at least some iodine. It's not toxic, it's an essential mineral. Only when we have exposed to poisons long enough that build up into tissue, does iodine even cause a potential detox reaction.


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Is iodine safe for pets like cats & dogs?


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Post  CausticSymmetry Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:58 am

LA-Night - Yes, it's an essential mineral for mammals.


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Post  Directo Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:48 am

CausticSymmetry wrote:LA-Night - Yes, it's an essential mineral for mammals.

What about this too, when we must take iodide? Before, after, during? One dose is enough? Or we must do over a period?

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Post  CausticSymmetry Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:58 am

Directo - It would take a while and a lot of iodine to completely protect the thyroid from radiation.

But some is better than none.


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Post  Directo Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:04 pm

If we don't have iodide, how much sea salt can we take for protect? And do we must take that quantity in one time or over a period?

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Post  LA-Night Wed Mar 16, 2011 3:19 am

Just finished reading the news. Looks like radiation is indeed leaking out of the damaged nuclear plant. Tokyo has already registered abnormal radiation levels.

I wonder if winds will carry the radiation to the U.S. west coast? Is it a matter of if or when?

Aside from upping my iodine dose, I haven't made radical changes to my regimen -- yet.




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Post  magic_gro Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:06 am

anybody here on the west coast has a geiger counter?
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Post  NewReg Wed Mar 16, 2011 6:02 pm

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-0316-california-radiation-20110316,0,6401831.story?track=rss

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Post  magic_gro Wed Mar 16, 2011 6:29 pm

crap... it's sold out everywhere... how would beta glucan help, otherwise? (got some of that at home, only have iodine and no iodide though...)
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Post  magic_gro Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:05 pm

i see CS and others talk sometimes about iodine in this thread. is that good too, or one needs iodide?

if i have some kelp, instead, would that do?

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Post  act<react Sat Mar 19, 2011 8:30 am

Fox news is starting to actually feel like a satirical rouse upon itself ... like the Colbert Report that doesn't know it's the Colbert Report ... Looks like we all had better go to Japan for a health sabbatical.

http://www.businessinsider.com/ann-coulter-radiation-oreilly-video-2011-3


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Post  magic_gro Sat Mar 19, 2011 4:40 pm

so, it looks like the plume has reached california today. it also looks like it's not so bad for now.

suppose i manage to get some potassium iodide by tuesday or wednesday... i read somewhere you are supposed to apply it to the skin in liquid or rather than swallowing the pills. is that true?

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Post  empty Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:02 am

Unless you're in Japan and near the plants themselves, I really wouldn't worry.

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Post  4039 Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:07 am

I would be more concerned about the daily additive effect of combined radiation exposure, of which Fukushima fallout is just more of the same. Supplemental iodine especially makes sense in this nuclear age. I personally like Lugol's and nascent iodine over any other forms.

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Post  CausticSymmetry Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:14 am

Besides iodine, one of the most effective way to protect against radiation is using clay. It can be used internally; it absorbs toxins attached the the thyroid and will allow iodine to work better (less competitive inhibition). Also, a bath with clay will help pull out toxins.


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