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My experience + on Eklonia and fibroboost
Hi guys !
Posted a few posts here, but not on a regular way... still nice to read your experience and research !
I'm on IH's regimen since febr 07 ... I'm 32 now.
i started with : IH top 6 ( ALA+ALC, biotin, 7HMR / flax seeds, Cod Liver Oil, GTE, Neetle root) plus many other things he mentionned ( NAC, chasteberry, beta glucans, selenium) + lasercomb + brewer's yeast + very very stric diet ( walnuts,almonds, fish, proteins, low on starch and hydrocarbs, no alcohol, red wine only ! , evening primerose, bourage oil , lots of organic fruits and vegies etc...)+ scalp exercice + massage
But no real multi Vit ( only by organic foods and brewer's yest)
I'd like to say my habit was to eat EVERYTHING, so no problem with rice, pasta, lots of bread ( organic and whole wheat ones....) . I mostly stopped all of this, except quinoa, green lentils, whole wheat bread or something like that in reasonable quantity.
I certainly forgot something, but that's not the problem.
The problem is that it didn't do antything good. I mean my shedding didn't really stopped, and i have less hait today than Feb 07.
1) 4 months after the regimen, i experienced loss of libido, and a very bad erection... ( like on propecia, stopped after 3 months in 03 ). Certainly the 7HMR and/or flax seeds. That came back with no problem afetr stopping them.
2) I wrote a post at this time about having very fry throat, and feeling the air in my throat when i'm breathing....I was fucker up because i started to take my suplements at the same time, for the most important....so who's the culprit ? I stopped gradually things after things...NAC obviously, GTE, etc....(Today, i can say i still experience this feling from time to time). In sept 07, i mostly stopped everything to see if all disappeared....nope...anf life goes on, and i didn't want to give up, as i don't today !! SO I think the culprit was either ALA/ALC at the dose 2 per meal, GTE, or Cod liver oil ( even if this should do the opposite..i don't know with all this vit A etc....i was on roac in my 20 and it CERTAINLY DID SOMETHING TO MY HAIR at this time, they changeg in shape (curly) and since then, they are very very dry. 12 years ago.) So i don't know if i have to be carfeul with vit A supplements.
Anyway, i decided in the end of 07 to restart the IH program but with more reasonable dosage...
1-3 caps of CLO max from double strengh swanson's, 1 combo ALA/ALC 200/500 per meal ( 2 max /day, usually 1/day)+ 5mg biotin , GTE from time to time ( not regulary), no flax, no 7 HMR, max of brewer's yeast, selenium from time to time...and i contineud to have a very stric diet, even more, and still lot's of walnuts, almonds, evening primerose etc...
+ lasercomb : i stop , i restart, i stop...
my scalp feels mostly itchy, very dry, and my thinning on the crown is growing....less hair on the top anf the front...i touched the bottom ( about my hair) in febr 08 ;-) ...and the few last months pasted very fast...
CONCLUSION) So, i decided to continue with this reasonable doasage and add :
* Eklonia
* probiotic Dr Ohhira's
* lugol's solution for iodine
* magnesium orotate ( to be sure i don't need it even if i eat a LOAD of organics almonds every day and veggies, chocolate with 99% of cacao)
* mag oil ( i prepare hexahydrate MGCL2 from the nigari product ( 87% mgcl ) OR a Chloride Magnesium pack that i put in one liter of water) one glass of this solution in the morning and apply on the scalp and body )
* A good multi vit like "vitamin code" from garden life. I like the idea of raw organic stuff that can be eaten like a food, and easily absorbed. With that, i'll be sure to have enough Zinc, vit B, E, C etc...
* Maca powder : organic from peru ! 1 to 2 tsp a day
I decided to wait before ordering PM ...
So i started all of this ( exept lugol and multi vit that i'm wainting for....) + my IH's regiment above.
2 days i'm through the loading dose of probiotics (5 morning + 5 bed time for 6 days)
My scalp is quite itchy and very sensitive, i fell pimples on my forehead and i feel like a stomach ache ( in the belly i mean) not very hard, but it seems something's going on here...it bubbles...sometimes i feel like i wanna threw up (short nausea). I know there's a die off to expect, but it seems very soon....1-2 days...
Oh yeah, and i have little headaches too...
I really apologize for this long mail, sincerly, but i should say something on my 1,5 feedback! quite confusing and hazy, but i had to do this ! forgive me gentlemens !
Are you anything to say about my regimen ( add/remove/dosage) , the way i do/make things (i could change something) , and precisely on the probiotics + eklonia + other stuff together...
Thanx again !
europe.
PS : For non US customers, you've got a flat 3,99 shipping for your IHERB orders ! 5 more days guys ! ( 1,99 for US i think)
Posted a few posts here, but not on a regular way... still nice to read your experience and research !
I'm on IH's regimen since febr 07 ... I'm 32 now.
i started with : IH top 6 ( ALA+ALC, biotin, 7HMR / flax seeds, Cod Liver Oil, GTE, Neetle root) plus many other things he mentionned ( NAC, chasteberry, beta glucans, selenium) + lasercomb + brewer's yeast + very very stric diet ( walnuts,almonds, fish, proteins, low on starch and hydrocarbs, no alcohol, red wine only ! , evening primerose, bourage oil , lots of organic fruits and vegies etc...)+ scalp exercice + massage
But no real multi Vit ( only by organic foods and brewer's yest)
I'd like to say my habit was to eat EVERYTHING, so no problem with rice, pasta, lots of bread ( organic and whole wheat ones....) . I mostly stopped all of this, except quinoa, green lentils, whole wheat bread or something like that in reasonable quantity.
I certainly forgot something, but that's not the problem.
The problem is that it didn't do antything good. I mean my shedding didn't really stopped, and i have less hait today than Feb 07.
1) 4 months after the regimen, i experienced loss of libido, and a very bad erection... ( like on propecia, stopped after 3 months in 03 ). Certainly the 7HMR and/or flax seeds. That came back with no problem afetr stopping them.
2) I wrote a post at this time about having very fry throat, and feeling the air in my throat when i'm breathing....I was fucker up because i started to take my suplements at the same time, for the most important....so who's the culprit ? I stopped gradually things after things...NAC obviously, GTE, etc....(Today, i can say i still experience this feling from time to time). In sept 07, i mostly stopped everything to see if all disappeared....nope...anf life goes on, and i didn't want to give up, as i don't today !! SO I think the culprit was either ALA/ALC at the dose 2 per meal, GTE, or Cod liver oil ( even if this should do the opposite..i don't know with all this vit A etc....i was on roac in my 20 and it CERTAINLY DID SOMETHING TO MY HAIR at this time, they changeg in shape (curly) and since then, they are very very dry. 12 years ago.) So i don't know if i have to be carfeul with vit A supplements.
Anyway, i decided in the end of 07 to restart the IH program but with more reasonable dosage...
1-3 caps of CLO max from double strengh swanson's, 1 combo ALA/ALC 200/500 per meal ( 2 max /day, usually 1/day)+ 5mg biotin , GTE from time to time ( not regulary), no flax, no 7 HMR, max of brewer's yeast, selenium from time to time...and i contineud to have a very stric diet, even more, and still lot's of walnuts, almonds, evening primerose etc...
+ lasercomb : i stop , i restart, i stop...
my scalp feels mostly itchy, very dry, and my thinning on the crown is growing....less hair on the top anf the front...i touched the bottom ( about my hair) in febr 08 ;-) ...and the few last months pasted very fast...
CONCLUSION) So, i decided to continue with this reasonable doasage and add :
* Eklonia
* probiotic Dr Ohhira's
* lugol's solution for iodine
* magnesium orotate ( to be sure i don't need it even if i eat a LOAD of organics almonds every day and veggies, chocolate with 99% of cacao)
* mag oil ( i prepare hexahydrate MGCL2 from the nigari product ( 87% mgcl ) OR a Chloride Magnesium pack that i put in one liter of water) one glass of this solution in the morning and apply on the scalp and body )
* A good multi vit like "vitamin code" from garden life. I like the idea of raw organic stuff that can be eaten like a food, and easily absorbed. With that, i'll be sure to have enough Zinc, vit B, E, C etc...
* Maca powder : organic from peru ! 1 to 2 tsp a day
I decided to wait before ordering PM ...
So i started all of this ( exept lugol and multi vit that i'm wainting for....) + my IH's regiment above.
2 days i'm through the loading dose of probiotics (5 morning + 5 bed time for 6 days)
My scalp is quite itchy and very sensitive, i fell pimples on my forehead and i feel like a stomach ache ( in the belly i mean) not very hard, but it seems something's going on here...it bubbles...sometimes i feel like i wanna threw up (short nausea). I know there's a die off to expect, but it seems very soon....1-2 days...
Oh yeah, and i have little headaches too...
I really apologize for this long mail, sincerly, but i should say something on my 1,5 feedback! quite confusing and hazy, but i had to do this ! forgive me gentlemens !
Are you anything to say about my regimen ( add/remove/dosage) , the way i do/make things (i could change something) , and precisely on the probiotics + eklonia + other stuff together...
Thanx again !
europe.
PS : For non US customers, you've got a flat 3,99 shipping for your IHERB orders ! 5 more days guys ! ( 1,99 for US i think)
europe- Posts : 355
Join date : 2008-10-16
Re: My experience + on Eklonia and fibroboost
europe wrote:
walnuts,almonds, fish, proteins, low on starch and hydrocarbs, no alcohol, red wine only ! , evening primerose, bourage oil , lots of organic fruits and vegies etc..
With all the nuts, fruits, and fish in your diet, maybe you have a an overload of iron?
Espio- Posts : 736
Join date : 2008-07-29
Re: My experience + on Eklonia and fibroboost
Does 7HMR effect libido?
randle20- Posts : 163
Join date : 2008-07-15
Age : 36
Location : md
Re: My experience + on Eklonia and fibroboost
espio - too much iron....what kind of effects could it have ? i do imagine a brand new way to give my iron to beautiful fertile women... what ??!!??? that doesn't work that way ??? too bad, so i don't give a shit about my libido then...
and yes, randle, 7HMR can interfer with libido, as flax seed can...7HMR/flax tweaks with hormones...it is supposed to balance sex hormones, but in many cases, sides appear witch i think is never a good thing on the long run....perhaps i'm wrong, and perhaps i simplify too much...
there must be a way to "balance" everything without bad sides. Give what the body needs ( deficiencies), and keep faith in our body to manage all this stuff in order to make it good...
and yes, randle, 7HMR can interfer with libido, as flax seed can...7HMR/flax tweaks with hormones...it is supposed to balance sex hormones, but in many cases, sides appear witch i think is never a good thing on the long run....perhaps i'm wrong, and perhaps i simplify too much...
there must be a way to "balance" everything without bad sides. Give what the body needs ( deficiencies), and keep faith in our body to manage all this stuff in order to make it good...
europe- Posts : 355
Join date : 2008-10-16
Re: My experience + on Eklonia and fibroboost
LOL. As males we don't lose blood in menstruation so we tend to accumulate an overload of iron in our blood. This acts like an oxidant, or an anti-antioxidant, if you will. So with all the work we are doing trying to build up on anti-oxidants with the IH regimen to save our hair, the progress is cancelled out by the high amounts of iron. Iron overload can lead to diabetes.
Check out this page for more info:
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2004/12/15/iron-levels-blood.aspx
Check out this page for more info:
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2004/12/15/iron-levels-blood.aspx
Espio- Posts : 736
Join date : 2008-07-29
Re: My experience + on Eklonia and fibroboost
randle20 wrote:Does 7HMR effect libido?
IH - can you comment as to whether 7HMR can reduce libido?
My libido is more important to me than my hair.
scottyc33- Posts : 1150
Join date : 2008-08-11
Re: My experience + on Eklonia and fibroboost
europe, greetings from another european
Seem like you have tried alot. One piece of advice:
if you have digestive symptoms, fx. constipation, delayed bowel movement, indigestion, acid reflux or similiar, do a digestive detox: oregano oil from Now foods enteric coated 4 capsules daily for 3 weeks. Then stop and switch to enteric coated garlic and repeat.
I dont think IH's regimen works if you cannot produce a good amount of enterolactone in the digestive tract.
Seem like you have tried alot. One piece of advice:
if you have digestive symptoms, fx. constipation, delayed bowel movement, indigestion, acid reflux or similiar, do a digestive detox: oregano oil from Now foods enteric coated 4 capsules daily for 3 weeks. Then stop and switch to enteric coated garlic and repeat.
I dont think IH's regimen works if you cannot produce a good amount of enterolactone in the digestive tract.
Amaranthaceae- Posts : 1368
Join date : 2008-07-15
Location : Copenhagen
Re: My experience + on Eklonia and fibroboost
europe - Along the same lines that cpio mentioned, sounds like something gastrointestinal.
From your description, the upset stomach and nausea appears to be Candida die-off reaction. Check out this page, as it seems you may have Candidaisis.
http://www.freewebs.com/immortalhair/physiology.htm
Scroll down to the Candida section.
Nothing works too well until this is eradicated.
From your description, the upset stomach and nausea appears to be Candida die-off reaction. Check out this page, as it seems you may have Candidaisis.
http://www.freewebs.com/immortalhair/physiology.htm
Scroll down to the Candida section.
Nothing works too well until this is eradicated.
Re: My experience + on Eklonia and fibroboost
CS,
I definitely have Candida overgrowth. Failed that spit test pretty convincingly. : )
I'm taking the top six and the ancillary supplements. Should I continue taking them while taking anti-candida protocols?
BTW, I recently drank a kombucha-green tea from Yogi Teas and had a bad reaction. My stool turned very pale. I stopped drinking it immediately and everything returned to normal. When that happened I researched Kombucha tea a bit. Mayo Clinic comes out pretty strong against kombucha tea. I take their criticism with a huge sack of salt. But I've found a few sources that say kombucha tea can be liver toxic, especially when you combine kombucha with green tea. Perhaps I should try it on its own?
Gan
I definitely have Candida overgrowth. Failed that spit test pretty convincingly. : )
I'm taking the top six and the ancillary supplements. Should I continue taking them while taking anti-candida protocols?
BTW, I recently drank a kombucha-green tea from Yogi Teas and had a bad reaction. My stool turned very pale. I stopped drinking it immediately and everything returned to normal. When that happened I researched Kombucha tea a bit. Mayo Clinic comes out pretty strong against kombucha tea. I take their criticism with a huge sack of salt. But I've found a few sources that say kombucha tea can be liver toxic, especially when you combine kombucha with green tea. Perhaps I should try it on its own?
Gan
ganny- Posts : 107
Join date : 2008-07-16
Re: My experience + on Eklonia and fibroboost
ganny - There isn't enough conclusive evidence to say what real risks this tea has. I know of people who consume it occasionally and without problems. You can get drunk off it.
Everything except 7-HMR you could still take with the anti-candida protocol.
Everything except 7-HMR you could still take with the anti-candida protocol.
Re: My experience + on Eklonia and fibroboost
CausticSymmetry wrote:ganny - There isn't enough conclusive evidence to say what real risks this tea has. I know of people who consume it occasionally and without problems. You can get drunk off it.
Everything except 7-HMR you could still take with the anti-candida protocol.
Why can't you take 7-HMR with the anti-candida protocol?
scottyc33- Posts : 1150
Join date : 2008-08-11
Re: My experience + on Eklonia and fibroboost
scottyc33 - During antibiotic usage or Candida overgrowth the lignans will not convert to Enterolactone that well.
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