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Post  Hoppipolla Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:04 am

I really don't like all this beating around the bush, you know?

Here are 2 studies which show that s-equol has it's DHT inactivating effect, regardless of how it enters the bloodstream:

http://www.biolreprod.org/content/70/4/1188.abstract

http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20100076071


So please, PLEASE let's just do it! Let's just make a room temperature -stable, pure s-equol supplement, and have DONE with it once and for all! I am going to Uni soon and heaven knows I don't need all this lol

I am going to say this and I really hope I get some partners in this:

Who's with me??


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Post  Hoppipolla Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:08 am

(by the way I believe at least one online pharmacy actually sells pure s-equol cheap, so this project should be fairly easy)
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Post  crincrin Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:33 am

Going to uni? Hoppi, how old are you?

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Post  Hoppipolla Fri Aug 27, 2010 7:02 am

I'm 25, why?
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Post  misterE Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:10 am

Hoppi

What are the chances of you starting a Top-Six?
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Post  LittleFighter Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:13 am

Hoppi, in the time being, why not follow this approach?

http://www.hairloss-research.org/UpdateDensity5-10.html
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Post  Hoppipolla Fri Aug 27, 2010 9:20 am

Yeah, I am Smile

I adore the idea of Densiti and becoming an equol producer, but it still has limitations. Not everyone can attain producer status, there are dietary requirements, and for people like me whose hair loss started with digestive issues, something like this is tricky to do as it depends on fairly good digestion.

Plus, I am still pretty young and want to be out getting drunk lol, as I'm sure do many younger people with MPB!

I think that an s-equol supplement is a wiser path, possibly THE wisest path, for the foreseeable future (until gene therapy can cope with MPB, basically!).

Stem cell projects such as histogen are also fantastic, but it is my understanding that the new hair requires shielding from DHT as well?

Anyway, s-equol I think needs to be pursued! Smile
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Post  Hoppipolla Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:17 pm

Some useful links:

http://www.sciencecodex.com/novel_soybased_se5oh_containing_natural_sequol_supplement_reduced_hot_flash_frequency_by_nearly_59_percent

http://www.naturalequol.com/pharmacokinetics.aspx
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Post  Hoppipolla Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:47 pm

http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00787007

http://clinicaltrialsfeeds.org/clinical-trials/show/NCT00962390

(safe to take up to 320mg at least, I believe pure)


http://www.naturalequol.com/faq_safety.aspx

(no safety issues observed in women (besides allergic reactions etc))

http://www.naturalequol.com/FAQ_Consumer.aspx

(no indication of safety problems for men)


http://www.naturalequol.com

(map displaying equol producers worldwide (roughly of course))
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Post  crincrin Sun Aug 29, 2010 2:16 pm

Nah, I was just curious. I thought you were 17/18, I was gonna say you know quite a bit for a young guy.

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Post  fender89 Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:40 pm

It sounds awesome but, if Equal decreases DHT, surely any fin like symtoms like low libido etc will strike? do we really want to decrease DHT? regardless of how?

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I'm thinking of trying Eucupil as apparently it dosn't lower DHT. Also it degrades in moisture or something, so it dies if it ever did manage to reach the bloodstream. Will try it along with some of CS's sup recommendations. Anyone here with experience with fluridil? any input concerning saftey issues? i know this is off topic lol but just wondering

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