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Post  Misirlou Sat Jan 09, 2010 5:28 am

I recently bought this product: http://www.iherb.com/EuroPharma-Tri-Iodine-12-5-mg-180-Capsules/20512?at=0
Seems like an excellent product but..

My problem is that I'm not sure if I actually have hyroid related problems. How can I tell? I don't wish to give my body more t-fuel if too much is already produced, resulting inhyperthyroidism.

So you guys tell me, do I have anything to fear?

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Post  kijumn Sat Jan 09, 2010 6:17 am

Misirlou wrote:
My problem is that I'm not sure if I actually have hyroid related problems. How can I tell?


http://www.thewolfeclinic.com/pdf/Thyroid_Temperture_Test.pdf
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Post  CausticSymmetry Sat Jan 09, 2010 6:36 am

Nice chart jdp710

Misirlou - Iodine can help normalize elevated thyroid levels as well, so if you were to read hyperthyroid, taking enough can eventually bring those levels back down.

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Post  Guest Sat Jan 09, 2010 8:38 am

i used iodine for 3 weeks and havent used it in a month and I still have no scalp grease and IMO have complete stopped my hairloss.

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Post  Guest Sat Jan 09, 2010 8:39 am

btw i didnt ever think that it would be possible bc i am only 20 years old and I thought I would need a DHT blocker. IMO IH's theory of hairloss is completely correct.

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Post  Paradox Sat Jan 09, 2010 9:07 am

1..... wrote:btw i didnt ever think that it would be possible bc i am only 20 years old and I thought I would need a DHT blocker. IMO IH's theory of hairloss is completely correct.

IH's theory can be correct for some. Meaning that hair loss is a known symptom of thyroid disorder. This may be your case. However, some may have more of an androgenetic component and/or have normal thyroid levels and still be losing. Was your loss typical male pattern recession? Any regrowth from the iodine?

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Post  Misirlou Sat Jan 09, 2010 10:34 am

Would it be a bad idea to start with iodine when on antibiotics?
What can I expect first months of treatment with iodine?

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Post  kijumn Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:10 pm

congrats 1....!


jharsh80,

On a serious question, has anyone on this forum even tested normal under the Barnes Basal Temperature test?
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Post  Paradox Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:43 pm

jdp710 wrote:congrats 1....!


jharsh80,

On a serious question, has anyone on this forum even tested normal under the Barnes Basal Temperature test?

Jdp,

I have no idea... I have never done it myself, just lab work. That's a good question though.

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Post  Guest Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:56 pm

I have gotten a little bit a regrowth and thickening. I just love how my forehead has no oil on it when I wake up in the mornings now. My TSH level was 1.9 which according to Mercola is considered hypothyroid. He says anything above 1.5 is hypo. But the basal temps are def a good way to measure.

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Post  kijumn Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:07 pm

Yeah, the lab results aren't very accurate and the Barnes temperature test is a more reliable indicator of thyroid function.

I just wish I knew if anyone on this forum is experiencing hair loss but are under the normal range under the Barnes temperature test ...
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Post  Paradox Sat Jan 09, 2010 5:08 pm

jdp710 wrote:Yeah, the lab results aren't very accurate and the Barnes temperature test is a more reliable indicator of thyroid function.

I just wish I knew if anyone on this forum is experiencing hair loss but are under the normal range under the Barnes temperature test ...

jdp,

if you explain (or link) how to do it, I'll let you know if I am. I have my blood results as well to compare to. If I remember correctly you use a thermometer under your arm pits when you wake up right? It will hard to get my lazy ass to do it, but I will. I'm not a morning person at all.

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Post  kijumn Sat Jan 09, 2010 5:45 pm

jharsh80,

Here's a link on how to do the test

http://www.thewolfeclinic.com/pdf/Thyroid_Temperture_Test.pdf
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Post  Misirlou Sun Jan 10, 2010 2:11 am

Misirlou wrote:Would it be a bad idea to start with iodine when on antibiotics?
What can I expect first months of treatment with iodine?

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Post  Paradox Sun Jan 10, 2010 9:27 am

Jdp,

I will do the basal temp test. Here are my thyroid results from a 10/06/08:

TSH, 3rd Generation: 1.84 (0.4-4.5 mIU/L)
T4, Free: 1.2 (.8-1.8 ng/dL)
T3, Free: 338 (239-420 pg/dL)
T3 Uptake: 36% (22-35%)
T4, Total: 7.6 (6-12 mcg/dL)
Free T4 Index: 2.7 (1.4-3.800)

Do you have any idea what the elevated T3 uptake indicates? My Naturopathic Doctor said that my thyroid levels were good, and didn't mention the elevated T3 uptake at all. I forgot to ask her about it. I was taking iodine at this time so maybe that had something to do with it.

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Post  Paradox Sun Jan 10, 2010 9:31 am

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Misirlou wrote:Would it be a bad idea to start with iodine when on antibiotics?
What can I expect first months of treatment with iodine?

I know the question wasn't directed at me, but iodine is an antibiotic. I'm guessing it would be ok. I would definitely be on a lot of probiotics if you are on antibiotics. I expect that others will answer that it is hard to predict what to expect because it is dose dependent and varies with the individual.

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Post  j87x Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:29 pm

Are adrenal extracts a good idea to take along with thyroid?

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Post  Misirlou Mon Jan 11, 2010 11:12 pm

Wouldn't the "positive" effects of antibiotics be halted by probiotics?

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Post  Paradox Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:45 am

Misirlou wrote:Wouldn't the "positive" effects of antibiotics be halted by probiotics?

Antibiotics kill bacteria indiscriminately with a shotgun approach. Probiotics replace the wanted good bacteria. So it is really essential for someone who is on antibiotics- either now or in the past- to replace the "good" bacteria. Otherwise you will keep getting sick because your immune system is compromised (lack of good bacteria), and will be prescribed more antibiotics, in a never ending vicious cycle. I personally will not use oral antibiotics. I've seen them really mess people up.

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Post  Misirlou Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:57 am

I more or less had to start this round of antibiotics, I'm not proud of it and it will probably be the last time I turn to corpo-rat-meds.

Which probiotics should I stock up on? I'm thinking of Culturelle and Dr. Ohhira's. Please suggest/recommend.

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Post  Paradox Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:00 am

I like Jarrow-EPS.

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Post  Paradox Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:08 am

Dr. Ohhira's might be the way to go for you though because i believe it contains Saccharomyces boulardii. It is more expensive, but I would go that route if you can. I wouldn't suggest Culturelle by itself. If you were going to only take one strain by itself to start, I would use Jarrow's Saccharomyces boulardii+MOS for a while, and then add Culturelle after a couple months. Then switch over to Jarrow-EPS, or Dr. O's after a couple more months.

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Post  blackjack Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:50 am

TSH, 3rd Generation: 1.84 (0.4-4.5 mIU/L)
T4, Free: 1.2 (.8-1.8 ng/dL)
T3, Free: 338 (239-420 pg/dL)
T3 Uptake: 36% (22-35%)
T4, Total: 7.6 (6-12 mcg/dL)
Free T4 Index: 2.7 (1.4-3.800)

if these were my results i would probably add in armour thyroid... but thats me.

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Post  Paradox Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:53 am

Blackjack,

Why do you say that? What number/numbers are you basing that off of?

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Post  blackjack Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:55 am

Because I like to see my TSH close to 0 as possible
and i like to see my Free T3 420-440 area..

but thats me and what works best for me..

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