*The first scientific evidence in 2021 that viruses do not exist*

Zixcreator wrote:He does say in the video you linked to that viruses do exist in our bodies. What I took from that is that these viruses are released in response to a toxin. That we falsely assume that the virus causes the illness when in reality it is merely a symptom of a toxin.

Very interesting about Louis Pasteur.

That part about the viruses could be subject to interpretation. Exosomes or extracellular vesicles have the same shape as perceived viruses would have. In other words, they are the same, however not pathogenic, but instead as he said in the video, potentially like a signal, or vibration or frequency, communication (resonance).

The word virus was originally defined as a toxin or noxious substance, because before John Ender's work, it was presumed there was some type of toxin in the air.

Exosomes are cellular debris in response to a toxin or inflammatory state.

Yes I can see that. He just uses the word virus to describe what you have been saying.

Ok. Stick with me. This is how I learn. Be patient with a dumb ass like me! LOL!

So suppose a person gets bitten by an animal and gets rabies. You're saying that the animal bite caused a toxin to be released in the person. Then the exosome (that is identified as a rabies virus) gets released in the body in response to the toxin?

CausticSymmetry wrote:

So in effect, they are mistaking an exosome for a virus, but at the same time, the procedures for isolation are different.
When they "isolate" a 'virus' they are only destroying monkey kidney cells with nephrotoxic drugs.

Let me get this straight. Poisoned monkey kidney cells are always used in the attempt to "isolate a virus"? Including Convid?

Zixcreator wrote:Yes I can see that. He just uses the word virus to describe what you have been saying.

Ok. Stick with me. This is how I learn. Be patient with a dumb ass like me! LOL!

So suppose a person gets bitten by an animal and gets rabies. You're saying that the animal bite caused a toxin to be released in the person. Then the exosome (that is identified as a rabies virus) gets released in the body in response to the toxin?

All great questions. As you're too well aware, the first causality in war is truth, and so some historical background for Rabies is helpful.

To save some time, here's some quotes lifted from Good Bye Germ Theory, Ending a_Century of Medical Fraud by, Dr William Trebing

"More people got sick and died from his rabies vaccine then ever
had rabies to begin with during his time. In 1956, JAMA ( The
Journal of the American Medical Association ) reported that the
Academy of Medicine in France found "Pasteur's rabies vaccinations
may be followed as much as 20 years later with a rare form of psychosis.
This, at the very least, shows the AMA acknowledged at some
point in time that vaccines can cause health problems decades
later. It has been shown statistically that in countries where the
Pasteur rabies vaccine has been employed, the number of deaths
from hydrophobia (rabies) has actually increased and not diminished
Pasteur's anthrax vaccine in Russia was nothing short of a disaster.
4,500 sheep were administered the vaccine, and 3,600 dropped
dead almost immediately following. Pasteur's rabies vaccine killed
King Alexander of Greece, who was given the treatment after being
bitten by a monkey. He died within one week of the vaccine. These
are all the wonderful Pasteurian facts you've never heard in school"

From everything I've read on the subject, besides being a side-effect of some type of
'treatment' or toxin, Rabies doesn't actually exist.

There's an interesting story on various "viral" diseases, once the origins of the history is revealed.

“It is dangerous to let the public behind the scenes. They are easily disillusioned and then they are angry with you, for it was the illusion they loved.” – W. Somerset Maugham

Delphine wrote:

CausticSymmetry wrote:

So in effect, they are mistaking an exosome for a virus, but at the same time, the procedures for isolation are different.
When they "isolate" a 'virus' they are only destroying monkey kidney cells with nephrotoxic drugs.

Let me get this straight.  Poisoned monkey kidney cells are always used in the attempt to "isolate a virus"? Including Convid?

Almost, but not quite. They have also used Adenocarcinoma, otherwise known as immortalized cells of human lung cancer tissue, because it "grows" but it's no where near as effective as poisoning than vero cells (Monkey Kidney Cells).

So in most cases, vero cells are used, because they die off earlier than anything else.

The method Virologists most rely on to 'prove' infection and pathogenicity is inoculation of solutions they say contain the virus onto a variety of tissue cultures. This "soup" has never been shown to destroy the tissue, unless it first is starved and poisoned.

CausticSymmetry wrote:

From everything I've read on the subject, besides being a side-effect of some type of
'treatment' or toxin, Rabies doesn't actually exist.

There's an interesting story on various "viral" diseases, once the origins of the history is revealed.

“It is dangerous to let the public behind the scenes. They are easily disillusioned and then they are angry with you, for it was the illusion they loved.” – W. Somerset Maugham

Just started watching. Stefan Lanka!

OK. Very interesting. Bare with me. This is how I learn.

Let's switch to the chicken Pox vaccine. That I have personal experience with. In my opinion personal experience is the best form of media cause I consider all information to be suspect. I trust more what I see with my own two eyes more than anything else. My kids did not get the vaccine. It came out a bit after their childhood.

Before that mother's used to have "chicken pox parties". So did my wife. When she found out the neighbor kid got the chicken pox she sent both my kids to his house to play with him. Shortly after that they got the chicken Pox.

Chicken Pox went away after the vaccine came out. Haven't personally run into a single child that gets them anymore. So how can this be explained if viruses do not exist? Or that they can be spread. Kids don't know better so they can't talk themselves into it. So I think the whole psych issue isn't a possibility. It is possible they could have ended up exposed to the same toxin in the house that caused the chicken pox. I give you that.

Furthermore how did the chicken pox suddenly basically disappear after the vaccine came out? With polio they use the toxin idea that resolved and made the polio vaccine look effective. But how can we explain what happened with the chicken pox?

See if you're trying to convince me they use the whole "pathogenesis of a virus to manipulate us"..... well I'm on board! If you're trying to say we don't need a vaccine anyway for the chicken pox I agree. But as for viruses not existing I'm still not there yet. But I would say in my personal experience the chicken pox vaccine is unnecessary and perhaps risky but it is effective.

Right now I'm more inclined to believe that "every good bullshit story starts with a kernel of truth". Viruses exist but the risks are exaggerated times a thousand.

I have also had personal experiences that would appear to concur with the popular consensus that we "catch" chickenpox. However, since no real viruses exist for chicken pox, there are other possible explanations.

Known childhood diseases such as measles, mumps, whooping cough, and chicken pox
are best understood as processes of normal growth and maturation.

For example, nerve ending growths, can be shed.

In Thomas Cowan's words, "If this is the case, there would be no reason for children to go through these processes more than once in their lives. After all, a tadpole transforms into a frog only once; a caterpillar
becomes a butterfly only once."

Measles is a process of detoxification, transformation, and growth. If thwarted, particularly by an injection that clearly alters our “immune” responses, then only detrimental things can occur. This is clearly revealed by
the many studies showing that children who go through typical childhood illnesses such as measles have fewer chronic diseases throughout the course of their lives.

The body likely makes a chemical or protein that we call an antibody to mark this event. But it is far from clear that antibodies are protective of anything, or that these childhood diseases are contagious. We must have the courage and insight to rethink this whole concept of disease.

That stated, my personal belief is that maturation "illnesses" are detoxification signals, encouraged by vibration.

This is akin to menstruation syncing or imagine if we paint a toxic residue onto a tree. The tree may communicate through vibration to other neighboring trees to be on guard.

Good one CS, agree with  your points.  A few thoughts:  

Zixcreator, have you heard of the "observer effect"?

 It is based on the quantum concept that the expectations
and beliefs of the researchers have a definite impact on outcome.of experiments.  This gave rise to the "double blind"
procedure, in which to prevent bias in results, neither the participants nor the experimenters know who is receiving a particular treatment.

Obviously that isn't possible at chickenpox or measles parties.  Both the parents and the children know the reason for the parties.You
wrote, "Kids don't know better so they can't talk themselves into it."  Don't be so sure  Actually it may be more about vibrational resonance,
as CS mentioned.

At the same time, I wonder if all the kids did get it.  I actually searched and can't find any data on that.
I also looked to find out if it's actually been eradicated, seems not.  And that's a good thing, per CS' remarks
on the role of these childhood diseases in growth and maturation.

That was a great answer Brian. Thank you!

Here's something a bit esoteric, but relevant.

Seth was a spirit being who came out with with many books through the medium, Jane Roberts.
One of those books is titled The Way Toward Health.  

btw when this was published, it was long before the insane current vaccine schedule for children.  Seth might be more
insistent that parents not vaccinate their children today.  

https://existentialmedicine.wordpress.com/extract-from-%E2%80%98the-way-toward-health%E2%80%99-a-seth-book-by-jane-roberts

Many diseases are often health-promoting processes. Chicken pox, measles and other like diseases in childhood in their own way ‘naturally inoculate’ the body, so that it is able to handle other elements that are a part of the body and the body’s environment.

When civilised children are medically inoculated against such diseases … to an important extent the natural protective processes are impeded. Such children may not come down with the disease against which they are medically protected, then – but they may indeed therefore become ‘prey’ to other diseases later in life that would not otherwise have occurred.

I am not advising people to refuse to have their children vaccinated, since you now have to take vaccination into consideration because of its prominence in society. It is very possible however, that science itself will in time discover the unfortunate side effects of many such procedures, and begin to reevaluate the entire subject.

For me, the motivation for this virus info to get spread, no pun intended is to improve the chances of genocidal maniacs, like Fauci, Klaus Schwab, Gates and many more that had a part to play in the fake pandemic to be stopped before they continue with their digital ID, and toxic Quackcination programs.

So what have Quackination programs done?

Post 1989, chronic disease has gone from impacting 12% of the American population to 54% after 2012.

"If you're born after 1989, I think it is one in twelve" with a food allergy, it is the same with all these chronic diseases that are all listed as side effects [on Quackines]."

So, 54% of children in America have a chronic disease and that's not new info anymore...probably worse now.

Quackcines create cancer on a mass scale. They do this by deactivating a substance that allows Vitamin D to work in the body (Gc protein-derived Macrophage Activating Factor (GcMAF), by way of an enzyme, called Nagalase.

What is Nagalase?

Nagalase is a protein made by all cancer cells. The official chemical name is alpha-N-acetylgalactosaminidase.

Nagalase causes immunodeficiency. Nagalase blocks production of GcMAF, thus preventing the immune system from doing its job. Without an active immune system, cancer grows unmitigated.

Most people do not understand this, but most cancers regress on their own, there are exceptions of course. However, the ones that do regress do so by having enough GcMAF.

I was just thinking today that selected posts from this thread, including the skeptical questions, would make a good short book that
many could learn from.

Any thoughts on adult-onset measles? They are long past their maturation and growth phases.

Here's a good experiment to prove vibrational resonance. Paint a bunch of realistic-looking red spots on a kid and have one of those measles parties with the neighbours kids and see if the other kids come down with "real" measles.

So it's not sure that antibodies are part of our immune system or that they actually protect us from anything? So what exactly is our immune system? Killer B and T cells? Inflammation response? Why can't antibodies be part of that arsenal as well?

Let's hope this vibrational communication doesn't involve all diseases. Can you imagine if childhood cancers are transmitted this way? And why stop at kids? Maybe adults have that ability as well. That would be a real downer...a good placebo effect could kill you.

It's true that grown women living together can synch their periods. But there's a more mundane explanation for that...pheromones travelling from one to the other. And I think plants release aromatic substances too when they are under attack to warn other nearby plants.

shaftless wrote:Any thoughts on adult-onset measles? They are long past their maturation and growth phases.

Here's a good experiment to prove vibrational resonance. Paint a bunch of realistic-looking red spots on a kid and have one of those measles parties with the neighbors kids and see if the other kids come down with "real" measles.

So it's not sure that antibodies are part of our immune system or that they actually protect us from anything? So what exactly is our immune system? Killer B and T cells? Inflammation response? Why can't antibodies be part of that arsenal as well?

Definitely a mystery.

Speaking of cancer. Having measles reduces certain risks for cancer.

Beyond the possibility of vibration or frequency resonance, it is also plausible that whether  
exposure to similar toxins or suffering from the same nutritional deficiencies.

The two nutritional deficiencies linked to measles are both Vitamin A and Vitamin D. High-dose
in both will lead to rapid recovery.

Of course long ago, there was scurvy, believed at the time to be a virus or contagious disease.
Sailors all getting sick on the same ship were not the victims of a virus; the likely
explanation is that they all had a vitamin C deficiency called scurvy.

Looking back at frequencies again.

There are some diseases that can manifest by a kind of energetic resonance based
on a study of the nature of physical stuff, carried out by Luc Montagnier.

Here’s how the experiment goes: first, one puts DNA or RNA in water
(beaker one). Then one puts a collection of nucleic acids (the chemicals that
make up the DNA and RNA) in a separate water beaker (beaker two), in
another part of the room.

Then one introduces an energy source, such as UV or infrared light and shines
that on beaker one, which contains the formed DNA or RNA. In time, the exact
same sequence of DNA or RNA will form out of the raw materials in beaker two.

There is no possibility of physical connection between the two beakers.
The only conclusion one can draw from this simple experiment is that the
DNA or RNA in the first beaker has a resonance energy picked up by the
second beaker. This resonance energy then becomes the blueprint for the
formation of the identical piece of DNA or RNA in the second beaker. This
revolutionary experiment is clear and simple and repeatable.

This formation of DNA or RNA in the second beaker can happen only if
both beakers have water in them. Without water, no resonance is possible.
Even in our string example, it is the water vapor in the air that is resonating.

When one applies this discovery to viruses (or exosomes) said to cause
measles, chicken pox, it is possible that since these particles
called viruses or exosomes are simply packages of DNA or RNA, they emit
their own resonant frequencies. In a way not yet determined, each
frequency creates an expression that we call a disease; however, the
frequency will create what we call illness only if there is a purpose or
reason for the illness.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20640822/

That sounds a lot like einstein's "spooky action at a distance" quote or otherwisely called entanglement theory. But it is a fact and has been proven more than once and has yet to be properly explained. Mysteries abound for sure!

For me, the motivation for this virus info to get spread, no pun intended is to improve the chances of genocidal maniacs, like Fauci, Klaus Schwab, Gates and many more that had a part to play in the fake pandemic to be stopped before they continue with their digital ID, and toxic Quackcination programs. wrote:

I agree. I think the evidence that they are out to sicken us and weaken us is overwhelming. They don't seem to want to outright kill us off. Not in huge numbers at least. More like make us more docile and not live our full lifespan.

Zixcreator wrote:

I agree. I think the evidence that they are out to sicken us and weaken us is overwhelming. They don't seem to want to outright kill us off. Not in huge numbers at least. More like make us more docile and not live our full lifespan.

Do you think they will succeed?

CausticSymmetry wrote:

shaftless wrote:Any thoughts on adult-onset measles? They are long past their maturation and growth phases.

Here's a good experiment to prove vibrational resonance. Paint a bunch of realistic-looking red spots on a kid and have one of those measles parties with the neighbors kids and see if the other kids come down with "real" measles.

So it's not sure that antibodies are part of our immune system or that they actually protect us from anything? So what exactly is our immune system? Killer B and T cells? Inflammation response? Why can't antibodies be part of that arsenal as well?

Definitely a mystery.

Speaking of cancer. Having measles reduces certain risks for cancer.

Beyond the possibility of vibration or frequency resonance, it is also plausible that whether  
exposure to similar toxins or suffering from the same nutritional deficiencies.

The two nutritional deficiencies linked to measles are both Vitamin A and Vitamin D. High-dose
in both will lead to rapid recovery.

Of course long ago, there was scurvy, believed at the time to be a virus or contagious disease.
Sailors all getting sick on the same ship were not the victims of a virus; the likely
explanation is that they all had a vitamin C deficiency called scurvy.

Looking back at frequencies again.

There are some diseases that can manifest by a kind of energetic resonance based
on a study of the nature of physical stuff, carried out by Luc Montagnier.

Here’s how the experiment goes: first, one puts DNA or RNA in water
(beaker one). Then one puts a collection of nucleic acids (the chemicals that
make up the DNA and RNA) in a separate water beaker (beaker two), in
another part of the room.

Then one introduces an energy source, such as UV or infrared light and shines
that on beaker one, which contains the formed DNA or RNA. In time, the exact
same sequence of DNA or RNA will form out of the raw materials in beaker two.

There is no possibility of physical connection between the two beakers.
The only conclusion one can draw from this simple experiment is that the
DNA or RNA in the first beaker has a resonance energy picked up by the
second beaker. This resonance energy then becomes the blueprint for the
formation of the identical piece of DNA or RNA in the second beaker. This
revolutionary experiment is clear and simple and repeatable.

This formation of DNA or RNA in the second beaker can happen only if
both beakers have water in them. Without water, no resonance is possible.
Even in our string example, it is the water vapor in the air that is resonating.

When one applies this discovery to viruses (or exosomes) said to cause
measles, chicken pox, it is possible that since these particles
called viruses or exosomes are simply packages of DNA or RNA, they emit
their own resonant frequencies. In a way not yet determined, each
frequency creates an expression that we call a disease; however, the
frequency will create what we call illness only if there is a purpose or
reason for the illness.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20640822/

This is so helpful to me in dealing with the Twitter lady.  I'm stealing from you shamelessly  Thank you!!

That experiment is a perfect example of what I mentioned to her previously as "electromagnetic spread"
which I think is another term for "vibrational resonance."  I think understanding this is crucial to our collectively
breaking free of the mechanistic mindset of allopathic medicine.

Here is a link The Invisible Rainbow & 5G Technology ~ Compiled By John Fraim

It's sort of like an updated amalgamation of Invisible Rainbows and 5G

https://midnightoilstudios.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/the-invisible-rainbow-5g.pdf

Plus the original work

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/330287405_The_Invisible_Rainbow_A_History_of_Electricity_and_Life

This might shed more light on the EMF issue, which is a type of radiation poisoning.

I used to think that thought transfer could be possible with emf spread.A particular electrical/neural thought in person A would create a particular magnetic pattern that would emanate from A and travel over to person B. That magnetic pattern would then induce a similar electrical pattern in person B's neurons and thusly produces the same thought...kinda like a magnet can induce electricity in a wire coil if pushed thru the coil.

But it sounds too simplistic when talking about disease. A healthy person just has to send positive energy to an ailing person and maybe the ailing person's energy will change for the better. Hey, maybe we can do that to cure baldness. We need positive hair energy! LOL

CA, hope OK to pick your brain a bit more in answering Ms. Twitter.
We are all learning here, no?
Here she is asking about STD's etc.
https://twitter.com/taqpolymerase62/status/1508067885708627975

shaftless wrote:I used to think that thought transfer could be possible with emf spread.A particular electrical/neural thought in person A would create a particular magnetic pattern that would emanate from A and travel over to person B. That magnetic pattern would then induce a similar electrical pattern in person B's neurons and thusly produces the same thought...kinda like a magnet can induce electricity in a wire coil if pushed thru the coil.

But it sounds too simplistic when talking about disease. A healthy person just has to send positive energy to an ailing person and maybe the ailing person's energy will change for the better. Hey, maybe we can do that to cure baldness. We need positive hair energy! LOL

There's been much credible research on the power of prayer.

From interview with Larry Dossey, who has studied and written on this in-depth:
https://www.knowewell.com/written-content/healing-power-prayer-conversation-larry-dossey

According to Dossey, the medical community is missing a critical component in the healing process by not integrating prayer into the process. “I think it’s a shame that in our so-called scientific age, we say that healing with prayer is not possible and don’t even pay any attention to it,” said Dossey. “That’s false. If this is not scientific, then nothing is. The studies were done in randomized, controlled environments in hospitals and clinics. And the only reason people don’t want to pay attention to it is because of their belief systems. They’ve made up their minds that this can’t happen, this doesn’t happen, and they don’t care about the evidence.” Dossey says that combining distant, remote, prayer-based healings with concepts of quantum physics that have been implemented over the past century is incredibly effective. “We live in a new world view, which most people haven’t woken up to,” said Dossey. “Most people prefer the old ideas of the 18th and 19th centuries. That’s a shame because it deprives people of the healing force that is real and can be used to help people get well.”

Delphine wrote:
CA, hope OK to pick your brain a bit more in answering Ms. Twitter.  
We are all learning here, no?
Here she is asking about STD's etc.
https://twitter.com/taqpolymerase62/status/1508067885708627975

Sexually transmitted diseases (STDs) like herpes. Investigating these phenomena
leads to some interesting conclusions about the nature of life.

Some of this aspect was attempted to be explained in the chlamydia section earlier.

A quote from Dr. Thomas Cowan:

"With an illness like herpes, resonance may also be at play. (Also, a
collagen deficiency may contribute to the genital irritations in patients with
herpes and other STDs.)"

&

"So when two people come together in the highly charged act of sex, a
situation in which this resonance acts strongly, it is no surprise that the
couple might resonate together and create identical DNA or RNA, in a
manner similar to what occurred in the beaker. To a virologist, this looks
like the appearance of a new contagious virus. To a realistic observer, it is
two people forging an intimate genetic connection. This observation, rather
than proving contagion, teaches us about the mystery we call life. It teaches
us again that the materialistic conception of the “wily attack virus” is an
impoverished, inaccurate view of the world. And it teaches us to forgo
simplistic explanations and look into the deepest mysteries of life if we are
to create a world of health and freedom."


Dr. Jennifer Daniels considers STD's to be associated with collagen deficiency (vegans/vegetarians)
much more likely to have problems here. Thin skin or inadequate connective tissue, friction, etc.

Dr. Thomas Cowan cautions that we need to be careful about applying any findings too broadly. The
vast majority of illness that seems to be contagious is in reality just people
exposed to similar toxins or suffering from the same nutritional
deficiencies. Hiroshima was not contagious; Chernobyl spread throughout
Europe, but it was neither contagious nor caused by a virus. Sailors all
getting sick on the same ship were not the victims of a virus; the likely
explanation is that they all had a vitamin C deficiency called scurvy.

Young people at college exposed to horrible food, severe psychological stress, and
intense binge alcohol use are affected by toxins, not some elusive virus.
After starvation and toxicity are accounted for, we can admit that some
diseases can be spread by a kind of energetic resonance as predicted by a
careful and accurate study of the nature of physical stuff.

All of that stated, there is no proof of a virus that causes any of these things.
However, syphilis appears to be primarily transmitted through vaccination.

H. Mullen writes in the book, "Murder by Injection:"
"... vaccine is the cause of more diseases and sufferings than
anything I can name. Such diseases as cancer, syphilis, cold sores, and
many other disease conditions are the direct result of vaccination.
Yet, in the state of Virginia and many other states parents are
compelled to submit their children to this procedure while the
medical profession not only receives it pay for this service, but also
makes splendid and prospective clients
for the future..."
Vaccines are not only recognized for some of their known side
effects, such as anaphylactic shock, seizures, brain damage, learning
disabilities and autism. They are responsible for many chronic and
degenerative diseases, such as arthritis, colitis and cancer.
J. Anthony Morris, Ph.D. of the FDA virology vaccine lab &
department of biostatistics and biologies said in 1987:

To begin to tell you the truth about AIDS, a major piece of
epidemic propaganda pushed on the American public, and the
world by the CDC, let's first state that AIDS is simply a redefinition
of an old disease called leukocytopenia. If you research old versions
of the Merck manual, as well as older diagnostic texts, you will
find that leukocytopenia, meaning simply decreased white blood
cells, was purposely graduated to "Acquired Immune Deficiency
Syndrome" at a press conference held by the CDC in 1982.
Leukocytopenia has identical symptoms to AIDS, and was not
considered a sexually transmitted disease, but a disease of toxicity
caused from drugs and environmental toxins.